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Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: toonces3 on May 03, 2007, 07:05:00 PM
this:
(http://www.cyberroach.com/analog/an19/mig_alley1.jpg)

Mig Alley Ace!

I wonder how many of the players on here remember the 'real' old days when this was the only way to get head to head action.
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: BBBB on May 03, 2007, 07:14:25 PM
Trying really hard to ignore the gay overtone in "Head to head action". Trying really really hard and failing.

-Sp0t
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 03, 2007, 07:24:14 PM
Well, actually AW started back in '85 as well and that was online...


ack-ack
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Fulmar on May 03, 2007, 08:53:16 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Well, actually AW started back in '85 as well and that was online...


ack-ack


we had to wait for Al Gore to invent the internet
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: 999000 on May 03, 2007, 09:04:33 PM
My first game was "aces" box game.. no online..but it got me hooked!
999000
Title: Re: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Vulcan on May 03, 2007, 09:12:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by toonces3
this:
(http://www.cyberroach.com/analog/an19/mig_alley1.jpg)

Mig Alley Ace!

I wonder how many of the players on here remember the 'real' old days when this was the only way to get head to head action.


and before Mig Alley there was Spitfire Ace and Hellcat Ace.
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: fwembt on May 03, 2007, 10:21:32 PM
What about Aces Over Europe? I didn't have internet so I have no idea if it was online capable but it was a tremendous game.
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: tedrbr on May 03, 2007, 10:27:37 PM
BLUE MAX!  1983 and on the Commodore 64.

http://c64s.com/game/406/blue_max/ (http://c64s.com/game/406/blue_max/)
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 03, 2007, 10:40:08 PM
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Originally posted by Fulmar
we had to wait for Al Gore to invent the internet


No you didn't, many online services like Genie hosted games, Air Warrior being one of them.  But I was incorrect on my dates, AW was in '87 not '85 as I previously stated.


ack-ack
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Post by: Karnak on May 03, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Ace of Aces (http://www.lemon64.com/index.php?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64.com/reviews/view.php%3Fid%3D313)

A Mosquito "simulator" on the Commodore 64.  It even attempted clouds.
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: SKJohn on May 03, 2007, 10:43:58 PM
I remember spending hours playing the original MS Flight Sim - "not equal" signs for the biplanes - they were always "HOing" you no matter what direction they were coming from.  The one line horizon . . . .  man we thought we had it good back then!  Then I was introduced to Red Baron, and Aces over the Pacific - I thought I'd died and gone to heaven!
What will it be like in another 20 - 30 years?????
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: thndregg on May 03, 2007, 10:48:43 PM
Used to play on the SubLogic version (before Microsoft) of Flight Simulator on the C64. Dad bought the tape cassette version of it before we finally got a disk drive. That was a looooong wait to load the damn thing.
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Post by: toonces3 on May 03, 2007, 11:29:51 PM
was there online or one v. one gaming before mig alley ace?  Mig Alley Ace was released in 1985 and I remember it being so innovative because you could fight against another human instead of the computer.  

Were there earlier multi-player flight sims prior to this?
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: NoBaddy on May 03, 2007, 11:38:59 PM
Sheesh...got my first air combat sim in 1980. Flying Tigers...a text only game. :)
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Post by: tedrbr on May 03, 2007, 11:40:38 PM
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Originally posted by thndregg
Used to play on the SubLogic version (before Microsoft) of Flight Simulator on the C64. Dad bought the tape cassette version of it before we finally got a disk drive. That was a looooong wait to load the damn thing.



Ohhhh.  First computer was a Commodore Vic 20 with the cassette drive.  Had to use leaderless cassette tapes with it.  Upgraded to C64 with floppy drive later.  My watch has more computing power than that thing did.
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Post by: texasmom on May 03, 2007, 11:56:12 PM
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Originally posted by tedrbr
... Upgraded to C64 with floppy drive later...


Now there's a phrase that I had a tough time processing.

LMAO at remembering C64.  I played Moon-Mist back then on there. I don't even think there were graphics on that game ~ I think it was entirely typing.
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Post by: tedrbr on May 04, 2007, 12:29:25 AM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Now there's a phrase that I had a tough time processing.

LMAO at remembering C64.  I played Moon-Mist back then on there. I don't even think there were graphics on that game ~ I think it was entirely typing.


A lot of the games for Commodores had no real graphics.  There was a Midway Battle game, forget the name, that just had a grid map.  A "C" in a grid was a carrier force.  An "M" was Midway Island.  You detailed your strikes to go out to a particular grid to scout or attack the enemy carriers.  You would hear a little sound file play for attacks, but everything else was in the text buffer.  Any hits, any misses, any enemy sunk, your losses all came in text only.  
I wasted many an hour with that game.

That C-64 was also my first link to online BBS (I remember Modem Over Manhattan, the various Fed busts at the time to the early community --- guess we'd all be terrorists today and sitting in GITMO....) and the Prodigy Network.  Eventually got a 286 when they came out, and upgraded to Compuserve and Usenet Groups.

Scary thinking that far back.
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Post by: Gianlupo on May 04, 2007, 04:00:10 AM
The Dam Busters! (http://www.mobygames.com/game/c64/dam-busters)

That was (IIRC) my first flight sim, for C64 with tape recorder :)

Thinking about it..... zOMG!!111!!11!11 I was a toolshedder!!!!!! :eek:
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Cyg on May 04, 2007, 06:48:01 AM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Now there's a phrase that I had a tough time processing.

LMAO at remembering C64.  I played Moon-Mist back then on there. I don't even think there were graphics on that game ~ I think it was entirely typing.


How about the ZORK series?

>
It is pitch black. you hear a troll in the distance.

>Light Lantern

You see a menacing troll next to you.

>Kill troll

Kill troll with what?

>Kill troll with Lantern

How do you kill a troll with a lantern?

those were the days..... :)
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: lagger86 on May 04, 2007, 06:57:19 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Ace of Aces (http://www.lemon64.com/index.php?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64.com/reviews/view.php%3Fid%3D313)

A Mosquito "simulator" on the Commodore 64.  It even attempted clouds.
that game rocked.............yeah I'm old
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: texasmom on May 04, 2007, 07:26:34 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Cyg
How about the ZORK series?

>
It is pitch black. you hear a troll in the distance.

>Light Lantern

You see a menacing troll next to you.

>Kill troll

Kill troll with what?

>Kill troll with Lantern

How do you kill a troll with a lantern?

those were the days..... :)


LOLOL!  That's it! The game was juuuuust like that too funny.
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Knite on May 04, 2007, 07:44:06 AM
Here's my earliest one I think...

Red Baron for the Ti99/4a
(http://www.evg2000.com/graphics/ti/software/redbaronsc3.jpg)
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Puck on May 04, 2007, 08:45:59 AM
Most of you children are WAY too young.  My first flight sim was a lunar lander I programmed on punch cards and ran on an 8 baud TTY.  Enter burn time, thrust percentage, and vector.  Press enter, wait for the TTY to print your current alt, velocity vector, etc.  The TTY was 35 miles from the computer that ran it, connected through a 110 baud acoustic coupler.  This was 1975.

My first graphical flight sim:

(http://www.ahevents.com/fs1_16.gif)
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Post by: Spiffing on May 04, 2007, 08:56:24 AM
lol - that looks like something from the old BBC computers. Speaking of which, there was a game called Spitfire.
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Post by: Bingolong on May 04, 2007, 09:11:03 AM
You all might enjoy these Game History
Take note around 1977

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.mud.admin/browse_thread/thread/eae8d84910f3576d/bf9373a4841c7434?lnk=st&q=ms+dos+air+warrior+dos+cockpit+art&rnum=15&hl=en#bf9373a4841c7434

http://library.thinkquest.org/C002414/history.html
Title: before aces high, there was...
Post by: byheck on May 04, 2007, 09:31:05 AM
My flight games started with ‘Coin Operated Arcade Machines’ (prior to ‘Video Games’).   :O

Then moved on to Commodore 64/128 {USAAF / Text only bombing strategy over Europe), followed by offline only ‘Aces series’ (Aces Over Europe; Aces Over the Pacific; Red Baron; etc.).  

In the mid 90s, I started looking for online flight games with my 1st online computer.  

Over the past 10+ years {and numerous computer upgrades later}, I have dabbled with several On & Off line games (including: Air Warrior; Warbirds 2.0 {until late 2006}; WWII Online, and now I am settling into Aces High).  :aok
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Post by: scottydawg on May 04, 2007, 09:48:32 AM
You have been eaten by a grue.
Title: Fighter Anthrology
Post by: hoovers on May 05, 2007, 02:08:59 AM
First online Sim I played was Jane's Fighter Anthrology.  We had squads and ladders.  It was alot of fun at the time.  Mid 90's.  Love the game.


Hoovers:cool:
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Post by: Nilsen on May 05, 2007, 02:17:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by tedrbr
BLUE MAX!  1983 and on the Commodore 64.

http://c64s.com/game/406/blue_max/ (http://c64s.com/game/406/blue_max/)


OH YES.. i was hooked on that. I bet its still fun :aok
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Post by: Nilsen on May 05, 2007, 02:21:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
Ace of Aces (http://www.lemon64.com/index.php?mainurl=http%3A//www.lemon64.com/reviews/view.php%3Fid%3D313)

A Mosquito "simulator" on the Commodore 64.  It even attempted clouds.


oh yeah this was sweet too. if my memory is correct it had afew bugs that made it lock up tho
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Post by: Ghastly on May 05, 2007, 11:32:41 AM
You called?

:D
Title: Re: before aces high, there was...
Post by: Falcon on May 05, 2007, 05:29:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by toonces3
this:
(http://www.cyberroach.com/analog/an19/mig_alley1.jpg)

Mig Alley Ace!

I wonder how many of the players on here remember the 'real' old days when this was the only way to get head to head action.


Wow. Now that brings some memories!:eek: :D

Falcon
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Post by: Eagler on May 05, 2007, 05:55:42 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ce/BH1942_Zero_in_sight.png)



Battlehawks 1942 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlehawks_1942)  on a 286 hooked me in the beginning
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Post by: CarlsBee on May 05, 2007, 07:54:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SKJohn
I remember spending hours playing the original MS Flight Sim - "not equal" signs for the biplanes - they were always "HOing" you no matter what direction they were coming from.  The one line horizon . . . .  man we thought we had it good back then!  Then I was introduced to Red Baron, and Aces over the Pacific - I thought I'd died and gone to heaven!
What will it be like in another 20 - 30 years?????


Guess you will senile and the stick will shake a lot, you will be hard to kill!

:rofl
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Post by: Pudgie on May 05, 2007, 08:52:39 PM
Chuck Yeager's Air Combat started it all for me when I got my 1st computer in 1994.

1st online flight game was AW III (for a short period).

Then Warbirds & in 2005 added AH.

Been in both since.

:)