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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Yoshimbo on May 04, 2007, 01:49:54 PM

Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Yoshimbo on May 04, 2007, 01:49:54 PM
Just finished taking screenies of my new TG skins.

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/1.png)

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/2.png)

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/3.png)

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/4.png)

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/5.png)

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/7.png)

(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/8.png)

I thought this one looked cool.
(http://vf-152customs.ath.cx/newTGs/6.png)



Now i'll admit, the de don't look too hot, but i thought that the CV and CA came out looking real good, especially the CV.

:D
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Krusty on May 04, 2007, 01:56:36 PM
But.... CVs didn't have black tops in WW2... :(


Yes, the battlecruise has seaplane catapults and a crane. No seaplanes, though :P
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Nutzoid on May 04, 2007, 07:09:28 PM
:aok
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Nutzoid on May 04, 2007, 07:11:11 PM
Meaning, it looks great!! Black tops or not.  :O
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Yoshimbo on May 05, 2007, 06:15:00 AM
well i based mah top on old BnW photos of CVs namely the Saratoga and Lexington, whose tops looked black enough in the picture:

(http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/photos/saratoga-iv.jpg)

(http://www.delsjourney.com/images/family_history/ww2/neosho/coral_sea/other_photos/USS_Lexington_Oct_1941.jpg)
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Fencer51 on May 05, 2007, 06:23:33 AM
So does the water. :noid  

The decks were teak.
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Yoshimbo on May 05, 2007, 06:38:38 AM
you mean i gotta reskin teh water now!? :eek:


:lol  btw, wth is teak?
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: RTR on May 05, 2007, 10:11:22 AM
yeah you gotta make the water teak, and make sure you get the grain running the right way, I hate it when the water grain goes the wrong way. It make it tough to chew.

RTR
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: parin on May 05, 2007, 05:31:32 PM
The Decks where covered with wood. Which could be painted.
(http://navysite.de/cv/cv13_3.jpg)
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Krusty on May 05, 2007, 08:30:40 PM
If the number "13" is black, then the deck is most likely some shade of brown or grey...
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Fencer51 on May 05, 2007, 08:41:17 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
If the number "13" is black, then the deck is most likely some shade of brown or grey...


What with wood being brown and Teak being wood..
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Krusty on May 05, 2007, 10:00:25 PM
Fencer, it was wood, but I doubt it was untreated wood. With the aircraft constantly rolling around on it, and worse, the salt spray, untreated wood would last as long as a fart in the wind (so to speak).

They'd have to put something on it, be it paint, sealant, something.

It wouldn't look like "plain wood" because it would be treated, IMO.
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Saxman on May 06, 2007, 12:38:14 AM
Too bad we don't have any CVs left in WWII-era configuration for some good color pics. Darn modernization.
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Krusty on May 06, 2007, 01:59:44 AM
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cv/cv-06/500-pm/pm-index.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cv/cv-10/350-hd/hd-index.html

http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery/cv/cv-08/350-kz/kz-index.html

Lotta model builds on that webpage, none of them have brown decks, from my sampling (clicked through a dozen or so).
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Saxman on May 06, 2007, 02:13:09 AM
Pretty sweet models, but WAY overboard on the rust. Those ships were being cleaned and painted almost CONSTANTLY when not in actual combat (the crew needed SOMETHING to do).
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Krusty on May 06, 2007, 12:02:18 PM
Agreed.

But, you have to admit, sometimes you just want a model to be eye-catching! Rust does that >:D
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Widewing on May 06, 2007, 04:07:44 PM
Teak decks...

(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k14000/k14254.jpg)

(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k14000/k14379.jpg)

(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k05000/k05702.jpg)

(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k00001/k00459.jpg)

(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k00001/k00741.jpg)

(http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/k05000/k05339.jpg)

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Fencer51 on May 06, 2007, 04:41:59 PM
Now Widewing there you go proving Krusty wrong again...

"treated" decks would burn easier.  Just like painted bulkheads.
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Stoney74 on May 07, 2007, 03:34:36 AM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Pretty sweet models, but WAY overboard on the rust. Those ships were being cleaned and painted almost CONSTANTLY when not in actual combat (the crew needed SOMETHING to do).


I remember flying off the ship after 1 month underway and as we departed in the Helo, I couldn't help but notice what a rust bucket it looked like.  They do paint the heck out of 'em, but after some time underway, she'll look like an old tin can .  Look at all the rust along the waterline on the Saratoga!

Teak is typically oiled to protect it, and it usually takes on a brownish-orange tint after a fresh application.  However, it fades after exposure (or repeated scrubbing) to the elements to a nice dull gray.  It appears pretty well in WW's photos--especially on the pic of the Saratoga where the entire spectrum of shades is represented from fore to aft.  Notice all the oil stains in the landing area.  Hard to imagine a radial throwing oil...;)
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Krusty on May 07, 2007, 08:49:19 AM
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Originally posted by Stoney74
Teak is typically oiled to protect it, and it usually takes on a brownish-orange tint after a fresh application.  However, it fades after exposure (or repeated scrubbing) to the elements to a nice dull gray.  It appears pretty well in WW's photos--especially on the pic of the Saratoga where the entire spectrum of shades is represented from fore to aft.  Notice all the oil stains in the landing area.  Hard to imagine a radial throwing oil...;)


Interesting info!
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Puck on May 07, 2007, 10:37:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Saxman
Pretty sweet models, but WAY overboard on the rust. Those ships were being cleaned and painted almost CONSTANTLY when not in actual combat (the crew needed SOMETHING to do).


No, First Division was dead set on anyone sleeping during the day even though they were up all night doing whatever it is they do, so they would run needle guns on the deck over your head.  The EXCUSE was preservation, but really they were out to get me.

You might find rust on a CV, but it would either be down towards the water line or some out-of-the way place that got needle gunned, primed, and painted starting the next day.  You can watch steel rust at sea.  Pretty interesting.  They have primer on bare metal within minutes.

The decks were *NOT* teak, not on the CVs anyway.  Oregon pine or Douglas fir.  Yes, they planked them with soft wood.  The Japanese used "Ancient pine".  The British used steel.
Title: Behold! New TG 'Skins'!
Post by: Stoney74 on May 08, 2007, 12:23:13 AM
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Originally posted by Puck
No, First Division was dead set on anyone sleeping during the day even though they were up all night doing whatever it is they do, so they would run needle guns on the deck over your head.  The EXCUSE was preservation, but really they were out to get me.


I lived under Spot 6 on the Nassau.  Nothing like a Harrier landing at full power to heat the room 10 degrees instantly, and knock all the dust out of the ceiling.