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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Halo on May 04, 2007, 09:03:59 PM
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Have you ever seen a ghost? I mean a real spiritual being or apparition or something clearly from the beyond, not of this Earth?
Just curious. No, I haven't. Believing in spirits or having other spiritual experiences is not the subject of this thread. Just seeing, as in, seeing is believing. Maybe at a seance? At a haunted house? An abandoned farm house way out in the country?
Do not exaggerate or, heaven forbid, lie. Do not trifle with the unknown.
Search your imagination. Allow that supressed recollection to briefly come forward and share itself. Do not touch that dial. We are entering The Twilight Zone ....
Share what you dare. :O
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My AP rounds sometime hit things that I do not see. :D
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i saw a zombie at frisches. The guy had to of died 5 years ago and no one told him. it was gross.
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One time I slept with a goat...oh wait, you said ghost. forget the goat thing then.
ack-ack
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My wife will 'feel' the presence of our two kids who were killed in the car wreck, now 20 months ago. I've never felt that presence, but she can identify which kid it is and how they are feeling. Sometimes it's only one of them and she knows exactly which one. It generally happens out of the blue and is an extremely powerful feeling. One time it stopped her cold as she was walking as our son had 'hugged' her to the point she couldn't move for a minute. She was especially close with our youngest daughter and Christina seems to visit more often, but at times she'll notice that Chris is there and Andrew is standing behind her.
I'd love to have that feeling, to replace the dead empty feeling I have instead.
The night of the accident after we'd already heard our son was dead but while we were racing to the hospital where our daughter was, my wife all of a sudden stopped crying briefly, sat up and said she felt Drew inside her. She hadn't felt Christina's presence. About 20 minutes later, before we got to the hospital, the same thing happened, and she now felt both of them in her chest. It was so terribly sad, and it was all it took to tell me that Chris wasn't coming home.
Not sure that's what you are asking, but that's as close as I've come. I do believe my wife when she says it, because it is such a strong feeling when it occurs. She'd thought they'd stopped 'visiting' her for a number of months and then it happened again and will a happen every so often even 20 months later.
I guess there is some small comfort in that.
We belong to a group called Compassionate Friends, that is made up of parents who've lost kids. About 3/4ths of them have had similar experiences to my wife. Some say they've actually talked to their lost kids.
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Well they say that amputees some times "feel" their old limbs. So it doesn't surprise me that your wife "feels" your kids. Women seem to be more intune to that kind of stuff then we guys are. Then again we did not have a life growing inside of us for 9 months. I have always been intrested in this subject.
-Sp0t
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Originally posted by Guppy35
My wife will 'feel' the presence of our two kids who were killed in the car wreck, now 20 months ago.
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I'd love to have that feeling, to replace the dead empty feeling I have instead.
Dan,
I never knew about this, as it probably happened while i was helping to take care of a relative that died about the same time (Alzheimers) that has to be the worst thing you could have ever faced. I truly am sorry, I don't have any kids but I can only imagine!
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You know, Dan, I remember reading about someone who lost a sibling to a car accident. Ill have to dig it up, but the family sensed the same things that you've mentioned. In a few instances, they noticed pictures....digital and all...coming out blurred. After some examination via Photoshop like programs, they realized that the "blur" was actually a faint ghostly outline of their brother. It was really an amazing read.
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I saw some things in the 60's I could tell you about, man.
(http://www.oldhippie.de/images/old_hippie_bilder_allerlei_hippiebus.jpg)
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Sorry Guppy, didn't know.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
One time I slept with a goat...oh wait, you said ghost. forget the goat thing then.
ack-ack
Well..............there went the plans for the BBQed goat.
Just don`t seem the same anymore. :rofl
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Guppy,
I remember speaking with you about this in a previous thread several months ago. It grieves me that you have had to face such a loss. Every time one of my sons walks out the door to go somewhere I have a moment of dread, fearing what "may" happen to them.
As I stated in that other thread, I have known several people who have had experiences similar to your wife's. In every case, it was a positive one, and gave them great comfort. In the case of my brother-in-law and his wife, both experienced the presence of their lost two year old son. At about the same time, my grandfather passed away. When my wife related the story about my brother-in-law's experience to her, to get the benefit of her insights, she sat in shock for a moment, hand over her mouth, and with tears in her eyes said that she had had a similar experience with my grandad.
I could relate others, but that really is not the reason I'm posting. I would like to offer you some comfort. I have thought about those incidences quite often over the years, and being of a religious upbringing, have tried to relate them to what I believe about what happens after death.
It is "not" the end. I have seen enough in this life to convince me that there is a loving God actively involved in the events of our lives. These encounters are "miracles," sent in love to provide comfort and HOPE in a time of loss. While you may not have experienced the same things that your wife has, I firmly believe that they are meant for you as well. Take comfort in that, and the next time she experiences the presence of your children, hold her close, and accept this as a sign that your family's separation and loss are not permanent.
Regards, Shuckins
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I believe the spiritual realm is more "real" than our present existence. While we are unable to perceive it, other than rare brief glimpses, I think those who have gone before are more able to be aware of us. Having lost loved ones I have often felt that if I could only see proof of the supernatural my lfe would be much easier. So far, such is not for me and I continue to exercise faith.
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I went though a time when I was confident there was no God. Last year my cousin "buddy" passed away of lung cancer. The night he died I had a dream where he came to me and said "goodluck mike". I woke up, and within 5 seconds, my family got a call from my aunt, telling us he just passed away. What I felt was overwhelming. Emotional, that I just lost a very close family member, and also a spiritual awakening. My cousin Buddy lived his life by the Bible, and I know this happened for a reason. I thank him every day for what he has shown me.
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Guppy- What you and your wife have gone through is something no parents should ever have to experience. I'm so sorry for your loss. I believe that everything happens for a reason, whether that reason is obvious, or it doesn't make sense at all. Be well....
"This World Is Not Conclusion"
This World is not Conclusion.
A Species stands beyond --
Invisible, as Music --
But positive, as Sound --
It beckons, and it baffles --
Philosophy -- don't know --
And through a Riddle, at the last --
Sagacity, must go --
To guess it, puzzles scholars --
To gain it, Men have borne
Contempt of Generations
And Crucifixion, shown --
Faith slips -- and laughs, and rallies --
Blushes, if any see --
Plucks at a twig of Evidence --
And asks a Vane, the way --
Much Gesture, from the Pulpit --
Strong Hallelujahs roll --
Narcotics cannot still the Tooth
That nibbles at the soul --
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who knows? I haven't. I know a few people over the years who say they have. I know a few who have seen aliens too.
I am not gonna call em a liar. I sure couldn't prove they haven't. I believe that there is some sort of life after this one.
What has always amazed me tho is that those who don't believe in god because to them it is not proven... they seem to believe in aliens and esp and bigfoot and that Bush brought down the twin towers.. This is all perfectly sensible to them.
lazs
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My father has talked to my brother a few times since he passed away four years ago. The first time was shortly after his death, and my father was having an extremely hard time dealing with it. He said that Tyler had come to him to tell him that he was fine and that it was ok for my Father to go on living. My Father remembers asking specific questions, some of which he just smiled at. It has been awhile since it happened, but my Father ferverently believes he spoke with Tyler. I would never question that, as my Father is the most honest person I know.
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He said that Tyler had come to him to tell him that he was fine and that it was ok for my Father to go on living. My Father remembers asking specific questions, some of which he just smiled at. It has been awhile since it happened, but my Father ferverently believes he spoke with Tyler.
I had the same thing happen once with my grandfather, about a year after he passed away. It was at night in a dream, and it could very well only have been a dream, but somehow it really seemed to be more than that.
Charon
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I had a dream once that my brother was killed in a deer hunting accident. It was very realistic. So the next morning I called him up (it was deer season), his wife answered and ...
he was fine.
I told the local newspaper about this but they weren't interested.
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I have.
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Dan
I knew from some of your previous posts you had lost your children but not how. You have my most sincere condolances.
In answer to the original question. I don't know if they were ghosts, poltergeists, or whatever, but I have dealt with things I couldn't explain more than once. I tend to believe they were ghosts (and before JB and Mac start picking on me it was before I could outdrink the fifth fleet and still be standing).
Too many to list here but some examples are shaking chairs I was sitting in, feeling a hand on my shoulder when nobody was there, flying ironing boards, and the like.
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Hi Dan
This stuff always gives me the shivers i dont know why.
Its frightning as well beautiful at the same time.
I believe there is a sense packed within a soul.
regards
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This isn't a ghost thing, but a feeling. About 3 years ago, my older brother died sometime during the night. I was awaken in the middle of that night from a dream of him falling. It was like he was walking down the street and just fell out in the dream. Upon awakening, I had severe stomach pain and it took about an hour to go back to sleep. The next day, about 1 in the afternoon we found my brother dead in his house. He appeared to have died in his sleep the night before.
Now I don't know if its spirits or some type of energy, but I know it was more than a coincidence.
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Halo do you really wanna see stuff that will make you wonder?
18 Briton Ave. Seaside Park, NJ.
3rd Floor, Northside bedroom. Go into the closet that faces West... all the way back.
You will hit a moving very cold spot... you'll cringe and run.
Objects move in the house also.
Go and see and tell me if I'm a Liar.
PM me if you want to know more.
Mac
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The one and only time I've dreamed of my father dying (a very lucid dream where he was falling down through empty outer space), I woke up in sweat as the phone rang. It was him calling to say he'd just survived a gunpoint holdup in an underground parking.
He had a dream once, where he is eating at his father's table back home, along with all his brothers and sisters, his father at the head of the table, asking for news from his far away (half of the family had moved across the globe) children. They then all accompanied him to a nearby river where he walked in and down under the surface.
He woke up to get a midnight snack and watch TV, when he got a call that his father had just died.
The closest thing to a supernatural revelation i've had was a dream that I don't know how to describe. It is completely abstract and was about Time. It might have been the most lucid dream I've ever had.
In the dream I figure out the 'solution' to Time.. It made perfectly clear why Time is an illusion. It was a flawless picture, and unfortunately I couldn't find something to write the exact idea down before it slipped from memory, despite knowing even before I was fully awake that this had to be recorded.
It was such a revelation that I felt as clear and timeless (I don't know how else to put it) as I would have if I had seen God, although this had nothing religious about it.
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Short answer, yes and several times. I worked my way through 3 years of college working every other night and weekend in a Mortuary. Sometimes it got interesting at night when I closed up. I stayed there all night while on duty. It was a decent job, not hard work and there was plenty of time to study and sleep.
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yeah
was living in a slightly haunted house with a bunch of other people and...
a tooth mysteriously appeared in a cupboard in the dining room, then disapeared shortly before moving. when the tooth was moved, whoever touched it always reported the feeling of being watched.
even if the house was otherwise empty, it always felt like there was someone else there.
a electric "fire" randomly turned on for someone.
the day before moving out, i heard the ghost crying.
same night, i was half asleep, rolled over, saw what could have been a ghost, put it down to being half asleep and making **** up, so i went back to sleep.
and theres been more than one place where i havent been able to go into a room for more than a few seconds, usually i find out afterwords that the people living there think its haunted.
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Ok, now watch these with the lights on :)
Found a few neat clips on this topic...the car chase one is baffling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obF2v2YNPw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6trH81xpko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MjM0v7vsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNplKfY6O8
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Short answer, yes and several times. I worked my way through 3 years of college working every other night and weekend in a Mortuary. Sometimes it got interesting at night when I closed up. I stayed there all night while on duty. It was a decent job, not hard work and there was plenty of time to study and sleep. - Maverick
there is no way I'd sleep in a mortuary. i just wouldn't. dead people make sounds and i just wouldn't be able to let my guard down that much. ;)
i was a grave digger during high school summers. i got $35 dollars a grave, but i didn't dig at night by lantern for crying out loud, and i didn't nap in the grave. and i didn't stand around leaning on my shovel during the burial services waiting to fill in the hole, either.
never saw a ghost. but my dad did, did and i believe he did see something... who knows, we don't know or understand everything the mind is capable of sensing ... consider the savants
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One of my radio co-hosts was VERY receptive to ghosts as a kid.
Her parents rented a house out behind a bigger house where an older man lived as land-lord. After the old man died, her family moved into the larger house where his estate rented it out as a rental property. She remembers very vividly as a 7 year old, playing in an upstairs bedroom, and the old man appearing in a rocking chair.
The first few times it scared the living crap out of her and she ran to tell her mom, who didn't believe her (at first).
She told me that one of the things that struck her most about the "ghost" is that when he appeared (usually in the rocking chair) that he looked so sad, and that once she got used to his appearing, a "game" she would play with him was to smile at him (even though she was still somewhat scared)....and that he would sometimes smile back.
After awhile, because she KNEW and had spoken to the old man when in life, when he appeared...she spoke to him, and on occasion, would actually get a reply from the "apparation".
She told me that she asked the ghost if he were trying to scare them into leaving the house...and that he look puzzled, and said "I don't mind if ya'll live here" and then disappeared.
There were times later that her parents would walk into the room and find no one there, but the rocking chair would be moving as if there were someone sitting in it. They believed her after that.
She also added that as she grew up, her "ability" to see spirits waned, and that she had not had any experiences past age 12. She believes that kids are more "open" to what they might be seeing than adults who might pass things off as happenstance or a vivid imagination.
As for me...
Our house we rented in Richmond, Virginia was definitely haunted.
The first day we moved in, my wife made sweet & sour meatballs in the microwave and some rice in a brand new out-of-the-box Corelware pot. After the rice was done, she turned the heat off and almost immediately the stoneware pot cracked into multiple pieces on the range in front of us as if it were struck by a hammer.
A week later, we were eating dinner and one of my wife's decorative snow-balls cracked out of no-where and began to leak all the water out from a perch on a china cabinet, again, like it had been hit with a hammer.
My kids came to us and said they were scared at night because they would hear the stairs to the upstairs creak at night, and would see a small ball of dim light, like a dirty snowball, come up the stairs at the same time and disappear into a wall of an unused bedroom.
Things like cash disappeared from a locked briefcase.
My wife and I would be sitting watching tv and out of the corner of our eye would see dark shadows walking from the dining room into the kitchen.
There was never a out and out sighting, but everything seemed to center around the dining room and the stairs up to an unused bedroom. While no one ever said anything, no one ever wanted to go into that bedroom (the kids never played in there) and when I used it for a work-out/excercycle room a couple of times, it felt very strange...like a sense of dread there.
A different co-host who had a Dalmation (deaf) brought her dog over as a treat for my kids who had no dog when we had her over for dinner. When the dog came in the house she started to bark at something unseen in the dining room, and "chased" it into the master bedroom....all the while barking at something up high...as if near the ceiling.
It was a pretty happy day when we moved.
68ROX
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See when I bought my house, that was one of the things I asked at the showings LOL If the price seemed to low, well...do the walls bleed or something?
My place didnt have any of thoe oddities til i started remodelling.
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Originally posted by LePaul
Ok, now watch these with the lights on :)
Found a few neat clips on this topic...the car chase one is baffling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obF2v2YNPw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6trH81xpko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7MjM0v7vsE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnNplKfY6O8
The "ghost car" is a classic example of how video DOES lie (or at least provides inadequate information).
The car jumped a median just as it went out of view to the left. The gate looks like its on that median and ends to the left of where the police car headlights end up. So basically the white car went to the left of the gate and the cops car missed the median hop and went to the right of the gate. The criminals then killed their lights, but I bet if you question the cops, they'd tell you they heard them driving down the road on the other side of the fence. It looks all strange because the camera is fixed and its bad visibility (night). Notice they don't show you any daytime video of the area? I've a feeling it wouldn't be as interesting.
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Originally posted by vorticon
yeah
was living in a slightly haunted house with a bunch of other people and...
a tooth mysteriously appeared in a cupboard in the dining room, then disapeared shortly before moving. when the tooth was moved, whoever touched it always reported the feeling of being watched.
Wait!
Lemme Guess
It was an "eye" tooth. right? ;)
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I had to put my namesake Sox (A Golden Retriever-Lab mix) down at the ripe old age of four because of terminal cancer.
I woke up in the middle of the night a few days later and I could FEEL her presence there on the corner of the bed that she always slept on.It almost seemed like I could see her.
Who knows if there are ghosts.But I could swear my dog was there that night.
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Nope. The dead cannot pass to the physical world. The Lord told the rich man; there is a gulf between here & there that you can't pass.
Anyone who sees a "ghost" or other paranormal event is seeing a being who was never human. Angels are not bound by the same laws as human spirits & can pass, that goes for Satan's angels (demons) as well. That's just my belief of course & others feel differently.
Guppy35; your wife needs help. I feel sick inside trying to imagine what you're going through, I have never lost a child like that, my wife miscarried our first child (my only son) but losing them in an accident is totally different. My prayers go out to comfort you & your wife & my condolences.
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Id like to see what Seagoon has to say about that post, Bren
From a theological point of view, that is.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Nope. The dead cannot pass to the physical world. The Lord told the rich man; there is a gulf between here & there that you can't pass.
Anyone who sees a "ghost" or other paranormal event is seeing a being who was never human. Angels are not bound by the same laws as human spirits & can pass, that goes for Satan's angels (demons) as well. That's just my belief of course & others feel differently.
Guppy35; your wife needs help. I feel sick inside trying to imagine what you're going through, I have never lost a child like that, my wife miscarried our first child (my only son) but losing them in an accident is totally different. My prayers go out to comfort you & your wife & my condolences.
Brenjen, I'd agree with you were it not for a certain episode wherein Saul had a witch call up the spirit of Samuel.
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Got one that follows the family from generation to generation... Never seen him/her, but we see what it inexplicably affects around the house from time to time.
Do pet ghosts count? Saw my Aussie out of the corner of my eye while at work the other day. Automatically reached down to pet her, and grabbed a fistfull of air... telling me I needed to take a break from the desk.
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I can't say I have seen a ghost. But I can say I hear something often.
My Mother died in mine and my wifes home. She had cancer. SHe lived with us for 16 months. We took care of her the last few of those and moved her into our bedroom downstairs. She died in our room.
Her bedroom was directly above the master bedroom , where she lived most of the 16 months. When she would get up in the morning I could hear her walking. I could hear the shower and TV upstairs. Mom wore a certain perfume. She used certain shampoo and lotion. WHen she moved into our home she brought a bunch of her stuff with her.
I have heard her walking at times in the morning. I hear noises that she used to make upstairs at times , and most of those times is when I am in thought about something. It's been so loud at times that I have literally said out loud , for Mom to calm down. I hear her.
I have been setting on the porch where she and I used to spend a lot of time talking and discussing things , and smell her lotion , her perfume. Or , setting inside feel a small whisp of air come by and smell that smell. I feel her there alot of times.
It may be nothing. But I really think that she visits us. I believe she is happy in heaven and just pay us a visit to help us know that she still watches over us and lets us know she is there.
I hope someday Dan that you can feel what your wife feels. It's a great feeling almost all the time. Sad yes. But just to feel that presence for a split second is really a great thing.
There are more things that happen....and they are all good. Never ever scarey at all. Just sharing these lil things that mean the world to my wife and I.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Brenjen, I'd agree with you were it not for a certain episode wherein Saul had a witch call up the spirit of Samuel.
That was in the old testament; different laws applied then.
The old testament is a set of laws & stories that the Lord said were done. Those days were indeed times of open miracles.... in the new testament apostles & charlatans were addressed as well.
I recall a few other times where people saw spirit incarnations; once was of Moses & Elijah (even though Elijah never technically died). That was Jesus that they appeared before though & since he IS God the physical rules do not apply.
My biggest question/doubt is this: "what is a miracle today?" If only one person sees, feels or hears it; is it still a miracle? If only one person experiences it; then the rest of society can explain it away as a delusion. In my mind an open miracle is something that is physically impossible & is witnessed by the masses as such. But a miracle can be something other than a blatant open miracle like that as well.
For instance people say, if God is real how can he allow children to suffer? Hard to answer that, but I think it's possible that God animates the physical body of children for our benefit even though he has already accepted their souls into heaven. That way, we see an infant baking alive in a fire screaming in agony but in reality God has them by his side in bliss already & we are none the wiser that a miracle has taken place.
Some people will say I'm hammering a square peg into a round hole & making something fit my perception & that's true in a sense; I like to think of it that I use my faith to comfort me regardless of the situation.
I used the analogy of the child burning to death because that is something I've experienced first hand. It's hard to listen to a child burn to death, trapped in a place you can't get to them, but the safety mechanism I use is my faith. Without that faith I really doubt I would have the mental strength to deal with those things; thankfully horrible tragedies have only happened in my vicinity twice in my life.
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AMEN
...It's hard to listen to a child burn to death, trapped in a place you can't get to them, but the safety mechanism I use is my faith. Without that faith...
Been there, and still smell and hear it from time to time. Don't care to repeat the situation and for sure don't want to go out that way either.