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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: parin on May 06, 2007, 07:35:04 PM
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Was able to fly home safely.
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/black_and_white/4009441841_G.sized.jpg)
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god bless the tbm. its the fat kid who keeps trying in gym class.
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I love that picture. Before seeing that picture, I really had my doubts about a WWII aircraft being able to fly with half a wing missing (which has helped me make it back to base plenty of times in AH). I used to wonder about the realism of it -- now I know AH has it right! :aok
I saw that picture the first time in an Osprey book on the TBM (TBF/TBM Avenger Units of World War 2). I went to a talk at the Museum of Flight in Seattle to hear some WWII aces and a TBM pilot talk about their experiences (which was awesome). I bought the book so that I could get on it the signature of the TBM pilot afterwards.
In the picture, look how the fuselage behind the gunner is mangled, too. I wonder if the damage was a result of a collision?
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I wonder if the pilot, kissed one of the designers when he rotated home?
Sort of like some of the wild B17 versus flack pictures you see.
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I like these ones-
(http://www.82ndfightergroup.com/webreadyphotos/Phil%20web%20ready/B17%20made%20it%20home%20aa.jpg)
(http://www.b17sam.com/files/nose_damage.jpg)
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I filmed a landing I did in my F4U-4 with half a left wing torn off. Killed a con, ran into his debris, shearing off a chunk of wing. Was able to limp home with a couple notches of flaps an gear down to stabilize the plane, along with hard right rudder. Landed it on the hangar pad on all wheels with full flaps.
It was one interesting flight.:eek:
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Flew across one and a half sectors two land two kills like this. Still got the video somewhere. :aok Rough landing though. (http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x73/5pointoh/5oonewinglandingkk4.png)
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Cool pic parin, and nice phrase coinbird.
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From Warren Bodie's book on the P38. Of course some seem to believe the 38 was fragile, but I digress :)
No ailerons, canopy top gone, 4 foot hold in the wing, left engine dead and most of the spinner missing, etc etc.
Heckuva job getting it home. Not that I don't do this all the time in AH :)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/861_1178518496_broken38.jpg)
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You actually consider what you do "landing"??? :confused:
:rofl
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Originally posted by Krusty
You actually consider what you do "landing"??? :confused:
Any one you can ".ef" from successfully.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
From Warren Bodie's book on the P38. Of course some seem to believe the 38 was fragile, but I digress :)
No ailerons, canopy top gone, 4 foot hold in the wing, left engine dead and most of the spinner missing, etc etc.
Heckuva job getting it home. Not that I don't do this all the time in AH :)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/861_1178518496_broken38.jpg)
Nice! My grandpa was in the same fighter group as the gentleman shown in this photo.:)
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Somewhere there's a picture of a Thunderbolt landing with literally half a wing gone. Does anyone have it?
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Some tough Grumman airplanes love them in the game. Always seem to rtb hammared. WTG Iron works.
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Originally posted by Krusty
You actually consider what you do "landing"??? :confused:
:rofl
Isn't any landing a controlled crash. Half a wing on a 51 leaves only one main gear, and tail wheel.
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to quote Krusty the Clown, "These are the jokes kid, make wit' da laughing!"
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Originally posted by Guppy35
From Warren Bodie's book on the P38. Of course some seem to believe the 38 was fragile, but I digress :)
No ailerons, canopy top gone, 4 foot hold in the wing, left engine dead and most of the spinner missing, etc etc.
Nothing compares for P-38 surviving to land then what Ken Sparks did with the P-38F; when he rammed the Zero and brought the bird back. Left otbd wing bent back almost 45 degrees, left prop missing, chunks out of right wing. Yet it still flew back.
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Nothing compares for P-38 surviving to land then what Ken Sparks did with the P-38F
one wing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KI_sCx164&NR=1)
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There was a legend in the 8th Air Force about a Flying Fortress with the call sign George 309.
After a raid deep into Germany, cut off from the rest of its formation, slashed and battered, the lone straggling Fortress crawled through the air back to England. Approaching its home base the pilot radioed the control tower:
"Hello, Lazy Fox. This is G for George, 309, calling Lazy Fox. Will you give me landing instructions please? Pilot and copilot dead, two engines feathered, fire in the radio room, vertical stabilizer gone, no flaps, no hydraulics, no brakes, control cables shot away, crew bailed out, bombardier wounded and flying the ship. Give me landing instructions."
After a brief pause the tower replied:
"I hear you, G for George. Here are your landing instructions. Repeat slowly, please, repeat slowly...
"Our Father who art in heaven......."
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Woa, that's amazing! I've heard bomber crews were given basic flying lessons (often by their own pilots) but it's amazing he could fly that!
Did he make it?
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Originally posted by Dantoo
one wing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KI_sCx164&NR=1)
OMG! That story is unbelievable! :eek:
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Mosquito PR.Mk XVI:
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/MossMk108Dam.jpg)
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/MossMk108DamTxt.JPG)
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Originally posted by parin
Was able to fly home safely.
(http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/albums/black_and_white/4009441841_G.sized.jpg)
Thats the same skin as the default in the game.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Mosquito PR.Mk XVI:
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/MossMk108Dam.jpg)
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/MossMk108DamTxt.JPG)
Hmmmm. And a 50 cal sets my mossie on fire?
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Just looked at the thread again and realised you could easily miss the link in my post. I'll make it stand out.
Nobody has survived more damage than this and flown home. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3KI_sCx164&NR=1)
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Yeah but you gotta understand, if we could go 500+ with one wing we too could fly home.
The f15's body is flat so at high speeds its like a rocket.
Its a shame all ww2 fighters has a oval or round shape to the body.
"dont gripe i know not all did but dang it 80% or more did :P"
Cool video,thanks.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Mosquito PR.Mk XVI:
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/MossMk108Dam.jpg)
(http://members.arstechnica.com/x/karnak/MossMk108DamTxt.JPG)
I would be willing to bet if anyone had been there to see it (other than the participants), that mosquito would probably looked like it was warping across the sky like someone with a bad internet connection.
Man can you imagine it, you need to reach deep, when you are facing an aircraft that totally outclasses you and all you can do is, play dodge ball.
DFC Indeed, I think for that display of skill a VC for the pilot would have been more appropriate.
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The photo below demonstrates how tough and well engineered the P-38 was.
In February of 1944, a 10th Photo Group F-5B (photo-recon version of the P-38J) was returning from a post-strike mission, descending through a heavy overcast over the Channel just after sunset. In the darkness and murk of the cloud cover, the Lightning collided nearly head-on with a Bomber Command Halifax heavy bomber climbing out as part of bomber mission to Germany.
Despite horrific damage, the pilot of the F-5B pilot somehow managed to nurse his plane to a safe landing, in the dark...
Embedded in the left outer wing is a complete vertical stabilizer of the Halifax. The right wing is bent back almost 30 degrees, with the leading edge flattened. In addition, the right side prop is badly mangled and it's obvious that the engine stopped on the spot. The right rudder is also badly damaged. The fact that the aircraft survived is amazing as it suffered incredible damage.
The fate of the Halifax is uncertain. Seven of the bombers failed to return from the mission. Of those that did, none was missing a vertical stabilizer. It is assumed that it went down as a result of the mid air collision, crashing into the channel.
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/P-38-Halifax-Crash.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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my parents were still in army when that happend(f15 landing) was like :O and i felt proud was pretty funny acutally dude passed out once inside the debreif
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Widewing, what did he do, fly right between the stabs on the tail?? I notice all the damage is on the opposite side from the one with the stabilizer jammed in it!
:confused:
He must have flown right between them, smashed into one, ripped off the other!
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Great pics guys thxs for sharing:aok
Guess the 38 is tougher than I though:)
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What parin said.
-SR-:aok