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Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: cav58d on May 09, 2007, 03:10:00 PM
My driveway was paved 48 hours ago on Monday afternoon.  What is the standard wait time before you should pull your vehicle up onto the new surface?
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: FrodeMk3 on May 09, 2007, 03:14:41 PM
With asphalt, or cement, Cav?

Usually, asphalt's good soon as it cools. Concrete/cement merely has to harden.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: cav58d on May 09, 2007, 03:21:24 PM
Asphalt....

Thing is, it's 84 degree's today, and has been in the mid-high 70's the past two days....I'm wondering if it wont still be sticky with this heat.

I just i'll just wait till at least sun down, if not tomorrow.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: Hornet33 on May 09, 2007, 03:34:59 PM
Should be good to go now.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: Odee on May 09, 2007, 03:46:11 PM
24 Hours is the usal wait time...  If it is still tacky/sticky, then you can toss some fine sand on it to help absorb any extra tacky.  Then sweep it clean and go ahead and park.



But don't blame me if they didn't seal it right and you're hub deep tomorrow morning.. :p
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: moneyguy on May 09, 2007, 04:10:29 PM
2 weeks  :D
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: MrBill on May 09, 2007, 04:25:10 PM
Many people confuse asphalt with tar mac ... asphalt is good to drive on as soon as the steam roller or packer leaves ... tar mac go ahead and drive on it, it ain't never gunna get any better, a lot of sand on top helps somewhat.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: eskimo2 on May 09, 2007, 04:47:43 PM
FYI, my neighbor is having his driveway done. His asphalt bids are about 70% of the price of concrete so he’s not even considering concrete.  Is this true everywhere?
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: Halo on May 09, 2007, 06:41:22 PM
Didn't your contractor advise you how long to wait after your particular paving?
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: rpm on May 09, 2007, 06:54:36 PM
I used to work for an asphault company. Trust me, as soon as it has been compacted and cooled (below 200*F) it is safe to drive on. If you have any doubts about the temp, spray it with a water hose. We would turn traffic loose on a new surface in less than an hour.

Asphault is MUCH cheaper than concrete, but it lasts about 1/3 as long. It is also MUCH easier to repair. I would'nt recomend laying less than 2" thick. Anything thinner and it will break up quickly.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: Ripsnort on May 09, 2007, 07:01:18 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Asphault is MUCH cheaper than concrete, but it lasts about 1/3 as long. It is also MUCH easier to repair. I would'nt recomend laying less than 2" thick. Anything thinner and it will break up quickly.

It (Assphault) also looks like crap (when used in a home setting), and weed can grown through it.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 09, 2007, 07:16:31 PM
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Originally posted by MrBill
Many people confuse asphalt with tar mac ... asphalt is good to drive on as soon as the steam roller or packer leaves ... tar mac go ahead and drive on it, it ain't never gunna get any better, a lot of sand on top helps somewhat.


whats the difference between the two?
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: rpm on May 09, 2007, 08:18:16 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
It (Assphault) also looks like crap (when used in a home setting), and weed can grown through it.
Not if done properly. The problem is most people go with the low bidder and get a low bidder job. This is a situation where you really do get what you pay for. A  2" asphault drive should last a lifetime if properly prepared and compacted.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: rpm on May 09, 2007, 08:30:16 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
whats the difference between the two?
I believe he is talking about seal coat. That is where the hot oil (tar) is sprayed on the ground.

Chip seal is the same, but you sprinkle gravel on top.

Cold roll is a mixture of asphault, sand and gravel and can be applied at room temperature. It does not harden until compacted, but is less stable than hot roll because it contains less oil.

Hot roll is what you see most highways paved with. It is a mixture of asphault, rock, sand and fillers. It is laid in layers with a paver at 300*F. It hardens, compacted or not, as it cools. When compacted it is as hard and dense as concrete. There are several different compounds of hot roll.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: cav58d on May 09, 2007, 08:30:50 PM
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Originally posted by Halo
Didn't your contractor advise you how long to wait after your particular paving?


Nah...I woke up to the doorbell, moved my car onto the street, and came back inside and fell asleep.  DOH!
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: MrBill on May 09, 2007, 11:17:33 PM
Hi rpm,

I think you have it ... so it's called chip seal not tar mac???

I remember my dad having a drive built in the 60's they dug a trench appx 3" deep then put down tar, covered it with a layer of course gravel, more tar and a layer of much finer gravel more tar and a layer of sand. It worked OK, but every year or so a new top layer of sand needed to be added ... and on really hot days the car would leave imprints if you drove on it.

And I was assuming cold rolled asphalt ... few driveways are long enough for the paving layers, no?
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: rpm on May 10, 2007, 12:00:19 AM
They make pavers big and small. I've seen small ones that fit behind 1- Ton trucks.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: storch on May 10, 2007, 03:53:00 AM
what about resurfacing asphalt?  I have 3200 sq ft of driveways.  I was considering ripping out the asphalt and replacing it with stamped concrete but the prices I'm getting are making me balk at the thought.  what would I need to do to resurface the existing asphalt, it's in pretty bad shape.
Title: Paved Driveway
Post by: Coshy on May 10, 2007, 06:06:35 AM
I just had a few estimates done for my driveway. For about 1800 sq ft (driveway is 16ft wide at the street, 32ft wide at the house, and 89ft long) I was quoted $4000 and $5100. That includes putting down crushed gravel and 3 1/2 (compacted to 3) inches of asphalt.