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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: HenryL on May 10, 2007, 01:15:56 AM
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Just been doing some reading. For those of us
who are Yak-9 enthusiasts, there were several versions
of the 9, one had 3 20mm cannons
one was able to carry 4 bombs, I think they were
250 lbs
there was also a long range version that carried
extra fuel and was used as a bomber escort.
That being said wouldn't it be nice if you
could pick the Yak for different missions. In other
words I would like to see those versions up.
Regards all HenryL
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we don't need more yak's than we do other planes we don't have at all.
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Originally posted by spikes
we don't need more yak's than we do other planes we don't have at all.
There's only two.:huh There's loads of Spits, 109's, Jugs, Hogs, etc...
I like the Yak because it's possible to do a lot with just a little ammo. I shoot Panzers in the a** with the 9T tater gun.
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Originally posted by thndregg
There's only two.:huh There's loads of Spits, 109's, Jugs, Hogs, etc...
I like the Yak because it's possible to do a lot with just a little ammo. I shoot Panzers in the a** with the 9T tater gun.
Yeap, one of the best things to do with that little bugger! The Yak is very underrated in the game, especially the 9T. It is fun to fly around and just use those 32 rounds of 37mm and see what you can get. The 9U is fast and is a small target and turns very well. And in the hands of a good stick they are very deadly. I didn't ever really fly it till Trikky whooped me about 9 times while fly that thing. Now, one of my personal favorite planes.
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I don't think the 37mm round on the -T can penetrate any angle of the panzer's armor. It's not an Armor Piercing round.
If you have film of this anytime recently (in the past year or so) I'd very much like to see it.
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I'v poped panzers turrets with the 9T.
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I haven't.. not for a couple of years. Used to be able to, but they've changed so much code along the way that it doesn't seem possible lately.
Which is why I'd like to see a film if anybody has one.
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Originally posted by Krusty
I don't think the 37mm round on the -T can penetrate any angle of the panzer's armor. It's not an Armor Piercing round.
If you have film of this anytime recently (in the past year or so) I'd very much like to see it.
I currently don't have films, but I will arrange it. I always approach Panzers from behind and hit the engine, smoking it, sometimes killing them, sometimes disabling them until someone else finishes them off.
I end up with the credit because of the most damage caused. FlaydONE, Jam934, and several others can verify this as well. Jam934 was a former BOP (Now an Angry Inch, I think). He's an avid GV-er, and used to get irritated at me for ending up with the kill after he finished off the enemy tank.
I'll fly a few recorded 9T sorties to illustrate my point.
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Thanks! I'd appreciate it very much
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The Yak is definitely a fun bird to fly. I like the Yak running at high speed right down on the deck. Also a fun plane to fly THROUGH hangars in the middle of a furball or vulch.
I've managed to turret, track, and smoke the engine on various tanks and osties with the 37mm. It's not AP, but it's still a big round with some energy behind it.
Also, it's fun to drag the conga line of Splixteens, Runstangs, L-Gays, and Nik-dweebs through the country side on the deck. One of the reasons I missed all the trees when the tiles were redone. A small Yak running hard on the deck can be very difficult for noobs to hit, and I'd sometimes get proxy kills from augers or tree ack, or set them up for easy picks by friendlies.
You've got to be patient to run up kills in a Yak in one sortie. Get in to knife fighting range, get a good sight picture, then let loose with a few cannon rounds. Not a spray and pray ride.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
I've managed to turret, track, and smoke the engine on various tanks and osties with the 37mm. It's not AP, but it's still a big round with some energy behind it.
In comparison with typical airplane guns, yes its quite powerfull. But in comparison with tank guns its weak, as a first approximation NS-37 more or less same as M8's 37mm gun. Did you manage to kill panzers with M8's 37mm HE rounds? :huh (i dont contend its impossible, but must be tricky the least).
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Originally posted by Oleg
In comparison with typical airplane guns, yes its quite powerfull. But in comparison with tank guns its weak, as a first approximation NS-37 more or less same as M8's 37mm gun. Did you manage to kill panzers with M8's 37mm HE rounds? :huh (i dont contend its impossible, but must be tricky the least).
Don't remember killing a tank by myself with a Yak-9T, but I've gotten the kill and many assists attacking them, while playing spotter plane for JABOs and other GVs to finish them off.
Not very realistic, but then we only have two AP cannon armed ground attack planes, and it's still just a game.
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Originally posted by Oleg
In comparison with typical airplane guns, yes its quite powerfull. But in comparison with tank guns its weak, as a first approximation NS-37 more or less same as M8's 37mm gun. Did you manage to kill panzers with M8's 37mm HE rounds? :huh (i dont contend its impossible, but must be tricky the least).
i didn't really kill a panzer with the 37mms HE. i was riding the M8 just for fun, when a teammate about 1.0k away from said there was a panzer near him and needed help. i ran to him and didn't see the panzer until it shot my teammate and saw the tracers. i kept firing at it's left track and until it titled. then i went to the back (he couldn't shoot me 'cause of tilted position) and kept blasting. i got his engine, until some noob shot his right track and "untilted" the panzer, he blast me.:cry
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Hey, how should the Yak be flown? TnB? BnZ?
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It SHOULD be flown as a Alt/speed junkie funky monkey.
The best thing about the yak is at high speed the lil' beast can still cut and turn with the best of them.
The shape is hard to hit,and also allows for a very clean airframe.
One thing is has trouble with tho,is the acceleration because it lacks wep.
However if you keep her over 250 for most of the fighting,you should do alright.
The real trouble comes when the yak gets low and slow "this is a no duh to almost every plane"
Simply put, the only REAL downfall is the dog crap ammo loadout. "some may say the small fule also"
If it had even a bit more cowling ammo, i would fly it more than my ki-84.
Shame. ;)
"Edit" the yak is one of those planes that, if you make it home..you will be out of ammo, with maby a few minutes of fule left.
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Originally posted by Serenity
Hey, how should the Yak be flown? TnB? BnZ?
The 9T is a bit of a bobsled: Great, as long as it's going downhill.
The plane handles well at high speeds, and retains speed very well after the dive. However it's total crap at climb/acceleration. So once you invest your E, it takes a while to bank more. If you get low, you're going to get slow, and when that happens...
But with a little Alt, you can really surprise the bastards on the deck. Drop down into the fray and you should have a few turns in there before you have to reload your energy.
Never fire more than a 3 round burst with the Hammergun. In fact, single shots worked best for me, and my aim is for ****. After learning the hard way, I didn't bother engaging Bombers though. Took more than 1 ping to get the kill sometimes and that's just not as satisfying :)
The Yak does a great counterclockwise barrell roll as a defensive manuever. You can sometimes sucker unwarey 190s with that as they make a B&Z pass on you.
The Yak9T was my favorite, and always gave me the best fights.
-Sik
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we don't need more yak's than we do other planes we don't have at all.
Actually more Yaks fit the criteria of filling in more birds AH2 currently doesn't have.
The Yak is roughly the equivalent of the Spitfire and the Bf109 in the sense that they were developed from the very start of the war until the end of it, and its evolutionary process tended to match that of the main-stream enemy fighters with every new developments. During Barbarossa the earliest Yak-1 and Yak-7 fighters were practically the only fighters that could stand up to the german 109Es in performance. During days of Stalingrad the Yak-1 produced a most excellent offspring - the Yak-1b - that stood superior to the 109Fs, and in 1943, along with the newly emerging La-5s the Yak-9s formed a strong backbone of the VVS.
Consider that the Brits have the Spit1('40), Spit5('41), Spit9('42) before 1943, and the German set has the Emil('40), Friederich('41), and G-2('42). In this aspect, our VVS set needs at least the Yak-7a('41), the Yak-1b('42), and the Yak-9('43).
More Yaks can be only a good thing.
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Thanks for the reply. I think that is what I was
trying to say. More Yaks!!!!
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Another thing I like about the Yak9T, just for pure eye-candy, is coming up to a flight of bombers and letting loose with those incindiary rounds. There's NO mistaking you've hit 'em hard when those things go off.
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Both Yak's are some of the funnest planes in the game to fly and one of my favorite rides. I was told this weekend it is an 'easy' plane to fly and 'easy' to get kills in... No it is not. You have to focus on getting off good shots and not alot of people are good at flying the Yak. I flew against Trikky alot while I lived overseas in Italy and got schooled alot, but I also learned alot. In about 5 sorties with the 9T I have gotten 24 kills, with overall having 33 kill to 6 deaths (5.5k/d in about 10 sorties). Check the charts and talk to a few of the Yak pilots. The 9T is not a bobsled so to speak, more-o-less, a bobsled on flat ground... just push it and you'll survive. The climb in the still has it climbing almost 3k a minute all the way up to 10k, and has a speed of around 350-360 around that altitude which is pretty decent. The 9U is okay at a climb going about 3.7k a minute up to about 6k and then drops 3k a minute at about 8k, and you keep that up to about 14.5k and with that your sitting at over 400mph. Fuel is decent as you get about 27+ minutes I believe with 100% fuel. Not bad overall and is just a fun plane to fly... it just takes some getting use too.
Yak-9U Evaluation (http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/Yak9U.htm)
Yak-9T Evaluation (http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/Yak9T.htm)
Yak-9U Performance & Climb Rate (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html)
Yak-9T Performance & Climb Rate (http://www.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html)
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Originally posted by spikes
we don't need more yak's than we do other planes we don't have at all.
The Yak-3 did well in the popular vote, finishing 4th in the Opening General Election, and holding that position until eliminated. It was the highest ranked Foreign design in the election. Take it for what it's worth, but there seem to be a good number of people out there who think another Yak would be nice.
As for my Bobsled comment Sketch, I gues YMMV, but I stand by my assessment (though I haven't flown in two years so what do I know lol).
-Sik
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Originally posted by Krusty
I haven't.. not for a couple of years. Used to be able to, but they've changed so much code along the way that it doesn't seem possible lately.
Which is why I'd like to see a film if anybody has one.
the T"s great for killing tanks,ill start recording when i do it.