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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Flayed1 on May 10, 2007, 09:07:04 PM
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These are some pics I took when Thundregg and I went to see the P-38 last weekend at the Warhawk air museum in Namp Idaho.
First are some pics of the P-38
(http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/746/p383wp1.jpg)
(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4054/p381hi5.jpg)
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4203/p38pitkn0.jpg)
Here is a pic of the project manager for Gacier Girl. He had a good presentation about how they got the plane out of the ice and this pic is of a 55 gallon drum that they used to test Glacier Girls cannon out on after they had removed it from the plane and brought it up out of the 150 some odd FT hole.
(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7/cannon1al3.jpg)
Here are a couple pics of the P-51.
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9839/p511dq0.jpg)
and the view that we like to see in game assuming you can catch up to it.
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1590/p51tailtn0.jpg)
and the P-40 they had flying that day.
(http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4200/p401kd2.jpg)
A P-40 insterment cluster.
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5366/p40pitel0.jpg)
And for all you Pearl Harbor fans, the actuall Ben Aflec.. Yes the plane he used in the movie. They had a nice lil picture board up of shipping this down to the movie set and Ben in the seat.
(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9639/p402cr6.jpg)
I have more pics but I didn't feel like spending that much time puting them all up on my dialup connection. I may post them later. Enjoy.
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Cool pics Flayed, thanks!
How come we don't get a GPS? Huh?
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Thanks for the pics!
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Good pics Flayed.
The cockpit shot of that P-38 is what really got my attention :aok
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Looking forward to the rest of the pics.:aok
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Thanks for sharing Flayd
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Skidoo is gonna be at Chino I believe. Nice pics:aok
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Pics like these should be a permanent feature of the AH website - kinda like a museum and reference library.
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Nice... 112 Squadron Kittyhawk?
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What's up with the P-51's tail? Is that a racing modification, perhaps?
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Very nice. Thank you for posting the pictures.
-SR-:aok
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Originally posted by Dux
What's up with the P-51's tail? Is that a racing modification, perhaps?
Looks like the tail from the P-51H
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Originally posted by Dux
What's up with the P-51's tail? Is that a racing modification, perhaps?
Late late model? -N or -H? Did any of those have extended tails?
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Thanks Flayed! Great pictures!
Pipz
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Originally posted by Krusty
Late late model? -N or -H? Did any of those have extended tails?
Well there were no P-51Ns, and the H was a lightened version of the D with radically different gear.
The Cavalier Mustang was different still, but this was a stock P-51D which crashed, was rebuilt as "Stilletto" a racer, and then rebuilt in to a TF-51D. The tail is a modification not stock for the airframe.
More about this airframe here. (http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/survivors/pages/45-11471.shtml)
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Originally posted by Dux
What's up with the P-51's tail? Is that a racing modification, perhaps?
Furball is probably correct, found some P-51H pics for comparision, looks like a D or K with and H tail
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1178919095_p-51h3.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1178919071_p51h4.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1178919045_p51h.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1178919020_p51h2.jpg)
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You might try this resource.
It gives you the history of each of the aircraft, modifications made, what, and when. Diamond Back is in the list of P-51Ds.
It also has LOTS of great pics of the Pony in many versions.
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51registry/p51registry.html#P-51D
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Very cool pics.
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No one noticed the P-40 is a double seater?
Or looks like one at least.
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The added tail fin was done on a number of TF-51Ds as the larger canopy was affecting airflow around the tail or something to that effect. It helped with directional stability etc.
Not a stock 51 by any means. Rebuilt Cavalier 51s generally had the added tail fin.
The P40s have second seats. They're not TP-40s though. Kermit Weeks has the only flying TP-40 with actual dual controls, down in Florida
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BTW the P38 is a J model, but it's painted in the markings of Perry Dahl's 432nd FS, 475th FG P38H, 23 Skidoo.
We have that skin by Fester for our P38G in AH.
The P40s are part of the Paul families collection of 40s. They are rebuilding a P51B in the markings of Duane Beeson's "Boise Bee" that should fly in the not too distant future
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Originally posted by Platano
No one noticed the P-40 is a double seater?
Or looks like one at least.
Yes the green one was a double, they said it was used as a trainer. They took out the radio gear in the other one and installed a lil seat in it as well so they could give people rides.
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Originally posted by Dux
What's up with the P-51's tail? Is that a racing modification, perhaps?
that would be a cavalier mustang probably. it was a conversion done in the mid 1960's by the cavalier corporation in an attempt to sell ponies to the airforce for use in vietnam in the sandy role IIRC.
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Very nice pics, thanks alot:aok :noid
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Originally posted by storch
that would be a cavalier mustang probably. it was a conversion done in the mid 1960's by the cavalier corporation in an attempt to sell ponies to the airforce for use in vietnam in the sandy role IIRC.
although my pic i think is the Piper conversion, I think the Cavalier conversion was very similar, COIN aircraft.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1179167182_pa-48enforcer.jpg)
and an Army TF-51
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1179167002_p51-21.jpg)
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the top photo is the experimental turboprop version I don't recall which engine they utilized I believe it was the lycoming but I might be mistaken.
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That's the Piper Enforcer, a much modified mustang with a turboprop engine.
Good site for info on the Cavalier Mustangs
http://www.swissmustangs.ch/32128.html
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well going off the name on the plane and google search I found this at
http://www.warbirdregistry.org/p51registry/p51-4511471.html
Serial #: 45-11471
Construction #:
124-48224
Civil Registration:
N5481V
N332
N270MS
N51VW
N51UR
Model(s):
P-51D
TF-51
Name: Diamond Back
Status: Airworthy
Last info: 2002
History:
Registered as N5481V by ??, 19??.
L.B. Maytag, Van Nuys, CA, 1962.
David Maytag, Colorado Springs, CO, 1963-1968.
- Registered as N332.
- Flew as race #9.
David Zeuschel, Van Nuys, CA, 1968-1979.
James Barkley, AZ, 1979.
- Crashed and destroyed, near Borrego Springs, CA, Aug. 21, 1979.
-- Suffered an in flight structural failure.
-- Barkley killed.
Alan Preston Air Racing Team, Dallas, TX, Sept. 7, 1984-1987.
- Rebuilt using fuselage of IDFAF 69 & wing of IDFAF 28.
- Built as modified racer.
-- Featured cut down fuselage and leading-edge radiators.
- Flew as racer #84/Stiletto.
Sherman Aircraft Sales, West Palm Beach, FL, 1987-1989.
Liberty Aero Corp/Museum Of Flying, Santa Monica, CA, Nov. 1989-1997.
- Restored to stock TF-51D configuration, Van Nuys, CA, 1995-1997.
- First flight, Van Nuys, Feb. 26, 1997.
- Flew as 511471/DJ-I/Rajun Cajun.
David Jeansonnie, Lafayette, LA, 1997.
- Registered as N270MS, May 1997.
- Delivered from Van Nuys to Lafayette, LA, Oct. 29, 1997.
Bob Jepson/Lady Alice Corp, Savannah, GA, Aug. 5, 1998-2002.
- Registered as N51VW.
- Registered as N51UR, July 1999.
- Flown as 51147/PI-J/Diamondback.