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Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Willfly on May 12, 2007, 07:35:48 PM
I have always wondered what are the "Benchmarks" for perking certain vehicles/boats/aircraft. In other words, for what reason is the vehicle/boat/aircraft cost system there?
     Is the vehicle/boat/aircraft cost system there because of actual factors in World War II that restricted the use of certain things like the number of a certain fighter produced?
     Or is the perk system there out of concern that too many people will be driving or flying something that HTC fears has better armament or 'killing ability' than other vehicles and aircraft? (Putting costs on certain things because of something not based on historical fact (Like amount of production) but out of such concern for 'abusing' certain things is a bit too arcade-ish in my honest opinion.)
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Platano on May 12, 2007, 08:05:00 PM
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Title: F4U1C
Post by: Patches1 on May 12, 2007, 09:49:44 PM
Was perked because it was overused and deadly in the MA
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: coinbird on May 12, 2007, 10:58:47 PM
i dont think there is any fair mathematical way to adjust perk values. its just something that slowly evolved over the years in the MA to balance gameplay somewhat...
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: hubsonfire on May 12, 2007, 11:03:04 PM
that's about the best short answer ^.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Saxman on May 12, 2007, 11:40:18 PM
F4U-1C as stated was perked because at one time it was insanely over-used and was unbalancing the arenas (WELL before my time). Also, only 200 were built.

Ta-152 is perked because it was extremely rare.

Me-163s and Me-262s are perked because they are ghey. They're ghey even WITH the perk.

F4U-4 is perked because she's the best prop fighter in the game, and guaranteed if she wasn't it'd sure shut up the "Perk the ElGay!" whines.

Tiger is perked because it's the best tank in the game.

La-7 is not perked because she's quite frankly NOT the game-breaker people make her out to be. Personally, I love shooting a guy down, watching him up an La-7 while I'm egressing thinking he'll run me down and take revenge, then I shoot him down again. :D However whenever HTC implements the perked ord option, the third cannon should be perked for the same reason as the Ta-152/F4U-1C. There just weren't that many built.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Lusche on May 12, 2007, 11:43:41 PM
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Originally posted by Saxman


Ta-152 is perked because it was extremely rare.

 


You are living in the past. Ta 152 is not perked. ;)
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Larry on May 13, 2007, 02:27:45 AM
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Originally posted by Saxman
Tiger is perked because it's the best tank in the game.



Still living in the past the Sherman is better then the Tiger. Sure its armor is crap but does it matter if you can kill tigers from 2K+ with one hit?
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: E25280 on May 13, 2007, 04:12:51 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
Still living in the past the Sherman is better then the Tiger. Sure its armor is crap but does it matter if you can kill tigers from 2K+ with one hit?
I would guess the Firefly is headed for a light perk.

Tiger is still better than the Firefly because the other rides can't kill it very easily, whereas the Firefly is not nearly as difficult a kill.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Laurie on May 13, 2007, 07:10:41 AM
yet we still have a
perked spit 14 which is nonsense.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Platano on May 13, 2007, 07:13:06 AM
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Originally posted by Laurie
yet we still have a
perked spit 14 which is nonsense.


Be grateful its perked...

Its a mix between a La7, spit9, and 47N uphigh...

Kinda scary to think about.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Laurie on May 13, 2007, 07:17:15 AM
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Originally posted by Platano
Be grateful its perked...

Its a mix between a La7, spit9, and 47N uphigh...

Kinda scary to think about.


yes but how many fights occur at 23k+?
Title: Re: F4U1C
Post by: Yknurd on May 13, 2007, 09:08:12 AM
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Originally posted by Patches1
Was perked because it was overused and deadly in the MA


I disagree.

I believe it was perked due to the wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Wasn't it only perked five points anyways?
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: VansCrew1 on May 13, 2007, 09:15:02 AM
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Originally posted by Saxman
F4U-1C as stated was perked because at one time it was insanely over-used and was unbalancing the arenas (WELL before my time). Also, only 200 were built.

Ta-152 is perked because it was extremely rare.

Me-163s and Me-262s are perked because they are ghey. They're ghey even WITH the perk.

F4U-4 is perked because she's the best prop fighter in the game, and guaranteed if she wasn't it'd sure shut up the "Perk the ElGay!" whines.

Tiger is perked because it's the best tank in the game.

La-7 is not perked because she's quite frankly NOT the game-breaker people make her out to be. Personally, I love shooting a guy down, watching him up an La-7 while I'm egressing thinking he'll run me down and take revenge, then I shoot him down again. :D However whenever HTC implements the perked ord option, the third cannon should be perked for the same reason as the Ta-152/F4U-1C. There just weren't that many built.


LA dose need to be perked,it outruns a f4u-4 at sea lvl.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Saxman on May 13, 2007, 09:22:54 AM
But not by all that much, with the advantage rapidly decreasing as altitude increases, and is otherwise dominated by the F4U-4 in most other categories.
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Widewing on May 13, 2007, 09:44:50 AM
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
LA dose need to be perked,it outruns a f4u-4 at sea lvl.


Yeah, so what?

A small speed advantage is insufficient as a reason to perk a fighter. That speed sometimes saves its bacon when confronted by a SpitVIII, SpitXVI, 109G-2, N1K2-J, Ki-84, F4U-1A and others.

I would unperk the SpitXIV and reduce the perk on the F4U-1C to something under 10.

I do not believe that the Firefly needs to be perked... Its rate of fire is much slower than the Panzer Mk IV and Tiger. Its armor is no better than the Mk IV's. The only thing the Firefly has in its favor is the powerful 17 Pounder gun.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: evenhaim on May 13, 2007, 12:24:50 PM
perk values fluctuate ive gotten in chogs for only 7 perks before and ive upped a 262 for 98 perks once too so.... all depends on population
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: kennyhayes on May 13, 2007, 12:40:01 PM
hmm
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 13, 2007, 02:42:37 PM
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
LA dose need to be perked,it outruns a f4u-4 at sea lvl.



You're a joke with no clue.  The only reason why you want it perked is that you are clueless on how to fight one.   The La7 unperked does not have a negative impact on game play.


ack-ack
Title: Benchmarks for Perking?
Post by: Fulmar on May 13, 2007, 03:05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You're a joke with no clue.


ack-ack


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