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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: gpa3 on May 14, 2007, 01:42:56 PM
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Constant arena full messages... arrrrgh
At 2:15 pm EST full seems to be 120 players.
At 10:15 pm EST on a weekend full seems to be 300 players or more.
What exactly is full then?
I thought ENY was supposd to take care on any country imbalance.
Then why can the same server be full at 120, that can handle over 300?
Seems like it is being used more like...
"hey dummy user, try this other arena we spent money on that is not so popular"
If that is the case... I have already been to the other arena, I did not like it.
Darwin would therefore say get rid of the poor performing arena instead of forcing it down our throats.
I didn't tell hitech to create an unpopular arena. Take that up with the people who wanted that arena in the first place. Force them into it and let the rest of us play where we wish until the server REALLY is full.
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Originally posted by gpa3
I thought ENY was supposd to take care on any country imbalance.
Arena caps never had anything to to with regulating country imbalances.
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Originally posted by gpa3
I didn't tell hitech to create an unpopular arena.
But, it is his business in his parlor. Just a thought.
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I am a paying customer in his business in his parlor...
Just another thought huh.
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Originally posted by gpa3
Constant arena full messages... arrrrgh
At 2:15 pm EST full seems to be 120 players.
At 10:15 pm EST on a weekend full seems to be 300 players or more.
What exactly is full then?
I thought ENY was supposd to take care on any country imbalance.
Then why can the same server be full at 120, that can handle over 300?
Seems like it is being used more like...
"hey dummy user, try this other arena we spent money on that is not so popular"
If that is the case... I have already been to the other arena, I did not like it.
Darwin would therefore say get rid of the poor performing arena instead of forcing it down our throats.
I didn't tell hitech to create an unpopular arena. Take that up with the people who wanted that arena in the first place. Force them into it and let the rest of us play where we wish until the server REALLY is full.
If, instead of coming onto the boards a throwing your little temper tantrum, if you had run a "search".... that what that button at the top of the page that says "search" on it is for....... you would have foud enough reading material to make you think you were back in school..... as I'm all sure we all wish you were...... but, to make it a bit easier on you......
The LW arenas are "dynamic". This means that as "blue" gets close to its cap number, it automatically increases the cap in "orange". This also happens with orange, both increasing in population and decreasing in population. The reason for this is to bring the caps up and down more or less evenly. HTC did this because when the cap in "blue" hit 300, everyone had to go to orange. When 330 people were on, one arena was full and the other looked like EW arena. So to make it more fun for more people they connected them together.
Its the way it is, get use to it !
.................oh and as for you being a paying customer, so are the rest of us and he trying to make the majority of us happy. Don't like the way its handled, you can leave.
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Your explanation regarding the meaning of the word "Full" makes no sense.
And your "get used to it" comment sounds like what we all read abt the 'golf course' update.
I am a paying customer and I have an opinion. Get used to that.
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Okay, since you don't want to read any number of threads that completely and thoroughly discuss this topic I'll sum it up for you.
FULL: NO MORE ROOM IN HERE.
WHY?: The number of player slots changes. LOOK AT THE SERVER SELECTION SCREEN BEFORE GOING IN! It says right there "200/250" or "299/300" or "350/350". The first number is how many are in there, the second is how many are allowed. If you see it's full, CLICK ANOTHER ARENA.
Next time please search. As a kindness.
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120 is FULL untill the other arena get close to full, Then the first arenas cap will increase so it isn't FULL. The arenas leap frog back and forth continuing to get full, and then increasing a cap. This continues until we hit the ultimite FULL.
There reason I said to get use to it, is because there was much debate on this topic, and HTC has decreed that this is the way it will be. So get use to it. If on the other hand you can't get use to it, you can leave. It is already a proven fact that complaining about it does nothing. again, try the search button and see what I mean.
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Well, I feel that hitech unfortunately has the same condescending obnoxious opinion abt it's users as I read here when people make a complaint abt the game.
The STFU, quit whining or leave posts appear to reflect hitech's company-wide opinion about it's users.
This is very unfortunate.
Ok, I will start actively looking to see what other war games are currently out there. I have left other games. That's how I found this one. This is by no means a goodbye post. I will leave when I feel like it and not before. Unless I am banned for speaking out of course.
Thank you.
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when a "sporting lady" has a runny nose?
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you can speak out all you want, just be respectfull. You can look, but your not going to find any flight sim that will compare with AH2, but again you are free to look.
Had you done some research here on these boards, you would find reasons for why everything is the way it is. HTC has thought out their responses very well, I feel. Granted not everything is "perfect", but hey if you can come up with a way to make things better go ahead and suggest it. I would however search to see if it has been suggested before, because a lot of ideas have, and HTC has looked at every one of them, and has even tried a few.
What we have now is much better than what we've had before. Just because it isn't what YOU want doesn't mean it isn't good. I know of one guy who wasn't happy with the way a flight sim was run, he left that flight sim and built Aces High :D
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
What we have now is much better than what we've had before.
I find that I can't really agree with you on this one. I see multiple "unhealthy" arenas now instead of just one. That's just my perspective of course. The arena caps and ENY don't affect me at all though since I simply change countries when ENY bothers me :cool:
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Originally posted by gpa3
Your explanation regarding the meaning of the word "Full" makes no sense.
And your "get used to it" comment sounds like what we all read abt the 'golf course' update.
I am a paying customer and I have an opinion. Get used to that.
Boy I bet you're tons of fun to be around.
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Interesting how 'senior members' rally to attack a dissenter with personal attacks, stfu, and leave comments.
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Funny... as I look through this thread again, I don't see anybody using the acronym "STFU" but you. Nor do I see anybody telling you to leave (but Fugitive did point out you could if you were so dissatisfied), and it doesn't seem there's been any personal attacks either (unless Storch's was -- I really don't understand what he posted).
So, to me (one who tried to help you, got ignored for the effort) you seem like you're trying to incite a response you've hinted at, rather than are reacting to said response.
You seem to be instigating it.
Just an unbiased* outside perspective, don't take it the wrong way. Might want to calm down a bit and take it easy.
* = semi-unbiased? Well I don't know you and I don't care if you stay or go, is what I mean. I have no designs on your final choice
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Gonna be a real long summer.
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Originally posted by gpa3
At 2:15 pm EST full seems to be 120 players.
At 10:15 pm EST on a weekend full seems to be 300 players or more.
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at 2:15 pm EST, is Euro players prime time, and those players are ussed to fill up all arenas, untill mass US players arives, both pay 15$ for a dinner steak , the EU players get the sour cream,just double standard policy, part of US and European Union unfair trade conflict
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GPA's not one the new summer crowd. He's been around for a little while. Registration date is a year ago.
Straying off topic, yes it will be a long summer, though. Last few times I got into the server there were too many seals and all the friendlies were clubbing them. No matter what I did I couldn't get a kill until finally some spixteen HOed me (eating a 30mm in the process). Just not the same.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Gonna be a real long summer.
:rofl
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OK, my two cents worth.
A question was asked, though I don't agree with how it was worded or some of the posters additional responses, it is a question none the less. Yes, the topic has been discussed before, but as "Rule #3" states, "Do not open a new thread that duplicates a current topic." The key word is CURRENT. Yes, a search would have helped clear things up a tad, but not worth flaming the poster.
Many times a topic like this will get hundreds of replies and the average person will not read through all the replies and post at the bottom. And he sure as heck won't get any help from the next person because the next person won't read 100 replies to get to his question.
The forth reply to this post in my opinion was belittling and uncalled for. If you don't like the post and can't add anything constructive and helpful without flaming the poster, hit your back button and go on to bigger and better things. Some of that post was useful and valid, but the rest of it was junk.
And that goes for all the other people with the holier than thou posts. This community use to be a lot more unified and helpful to new and old alike. But I have seen more and more degrading replies to people’s posts. Even if some posters need to be slapped up along side the head, that is best left to their mothers. Not the AH community.
Now, as to the arenas, I get confused as to the arena organization too. And you can explain it all you want, but the fact is when one arena starts to get really going with lots of people and lots of fights, the darn thing drops it's cap. I have seen it go to 319/220. In other words people were starting to have a rip roaring good time. BUT WAIT. The other arena was getting down in numbers. So no soup for you.
Do I agree with it? No.
Do I understand it? No.
Do I live with it and play? Yes.
This game has progressed in leaps and bounds. This isn't EVEN the Aces High I first played. It has grown so much and the people at HTC have done an amazing job at keeping up with the communities requests. But the arena thing still has me baffled. But, life goes on and it is still by FAR the biggest and best I have ever seen.
LTARsqrl <> :aok
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Originally posted by gpa3
Well, I feel that hitech unfortunately has the same condescending obnoxious opinion abt it's users as I read here when people make a complaint abt the game.
The STFU, quit whining or leave posts appear to reflect hitech's company-wide opinion about it's users.
This is very unfortunate.
Ok, I will start actively looking to see what other war games are currently out there. I have left other games. That's how I found this one. This is by no means a goodbye post. I will leave when I feel like it and not before. Unless I am banned for speaking out of course.
Thank you.
Boy you are real grasping at straws here.
Please quote where Hitech or any of his employees have voiced a "condescending obnoxious opinion" in repsonse to your tantrum-like demands.
It is quite evident that you will never bring anything to the table but trouble and whining ... we already have enough foot-stompers wailing on this BBS.
I pray to all that is mighty and holy that you find ANOTHER game to your liking.
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I belive the servers set the player amount due to peak activity for the internet and server useage.
Meaning,while everyone is at work, the server cut the number to allow less data to be used,reducing the bill's on HTC thus allowing them to charge lower prices.
That also means people can afford to play more, thus a increase in the amount the server are used, more use..more $.
unless while the people are at work "or sleeping" the servers jump down and save the company $,and thus it saves us on paying more $.
and the area splits are to make sure no arena is not only ever full, but that one single area is not using 700 players worth of bandwith 24/7.
Think about it.
I may be 100% wrong,but thats just my logic.
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Originally posted by Krusty
(unless Storch's was -- I really don't understand what he posted).
I'll give you a hint Krusty, a "sporting lady" was the 19th Century term for a prostitute. Also, a man called a "sport" was one who frequented "sporting ladies".
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Originally posted by LTARsqrl
......Now, as to the arenas, I get confused as to the arena organization too. And you can explain it all you want, but the fact is when one arena starts to get really going with lots of people and lots of fights, the darn thing drops it's cap. I have seen it go to 319/220. In other words people were starting to have a rip roaring good time. BUT WAIT. The other arena was getting down in numbers. So no soup for you.
I'll say it was my post that you were talking about at the begining of your post sqrl. I don't know how often you read the BBS, or how often you post under another name, but had you been reading the boards as much as I do.....work does get boring at times :D ..... you would know that most of gpa3's post are complaints about things they have been beatin to death in here about the "problems with the game". Maybe I came off a bit to tough, but I don't "suffer fools gladly" when there enough resources here to answer "most" questions. Also anyone posting on these boys with such a demanding attitude deserves any crap he gets for it.
To answer your question a bit, HTC made the arenas dynamic in BOTH directions. Word gets out that there's a "rip roaring good time" going in "blue", so numbers now start dropping big time in orange. With out the arena "population" balancer kicking in, "blue" fills to cap, which leave 50 people total in orange. Not so much fun for those 50 people is there? I can image what the boards would look like if gpa3 is one of those 50 !! So yes the "population" balancer is something we have to live with, to make it fun for more people. If the game is not fun for you, its because you are limiting yourself, and your fun. I'd rather have a choice of one out of two arenas with 250 people in both than only be able to fly with 50 in one arena.
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Originally posted by Krusty
GPA's not one the new summer crowd. He's been around for a little while. Registration date is a year ago.
Straying off topic, yes it will be a long summer, though. Last few times I got into the server there were too many seals and all the friendlies were clubbing them. No matter what I did I couldn't get a kill until finally some spixteen HOed me (eating a 30mm in the process). Just not the same.
So hes been here since last summer? Wow I cant see how we missed one.:furious
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What we have now is much better than what we've had before.
If you like it... great. For me, as time is going by I am missing the old "One Large Arena" set-up more and more. It had better fights, better maps and I was always able to find friends to fly with.
I know HTC did this to "fix" the community.... but did it? The players who was running around ingame & in the forums being Jerks back then are still here.... and still Jerks.:eek:
CAVALRY
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Originally posted by gpa3
I am a paying customer in his business in his parlor...
Just another thought huh.
HT doesn't force you to keep subscribing, does he?
You choose to pay, or you choose to leave if you are not happy with his game. Opinions are welcome, but they are just that- opinions. It's HT's ultimate decision to act on ideas presented by the community. It's still HT's game in HT's parlor. He cannot satisfy everyone. No one can.
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Originally posted by CAV
If you like it... great. For me, as time is going by I am missing the old "One Large Arena" set-up more and more. It had better fights, better maps and I was always able to find friends to fly with.
I know HTC did this to "fix" the community.... but did it?
Agreed. The only thing I like more now is the 90/40/40 rule.
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Originally posted by gpa3
Well, I feel that hitech unfortunately has the same condescending obnoxious opinion abt it's users as I read here when people make a complaint abt the game.
The STFU, quit whining or leave posts appear to reflect hitech's company-wide opinion about it's users.
This is very unfortunate.
Ok, I will start actively looking to see what other war games are currently out there. I have left other games. That's how I found this one. This is by no means a goodbye post. I will leave when I feel like it and not before. Unless I am banned for speaking out of course.
Thank you.
look all ya want AH is the best ww2 flight Sim there is, its a great game, but nothing is perfect, so with anything that's worth it gotta take the bad with the good.
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gpa3 no matter what others say you are acting like a noob. The limits in the arena keep everyone from hordeing in one arena. If one LW arena is getting full the others limit increases when that one starts getting full the other ones limit get higher and so on. Weekends bring more people thus higher limits. HTC doesnt want to have 500 people in one arena while the other has only 50. Everyone pays thier $15 and can have thier say in things but not the way you are doing it. If you demand stuff people will react how they are to you.
The game belongs to HTC they can limit what they want when they want. If you dont like it theres 2-3 more people that will take your place. I dont think $15 less will make HTC change thier ways.
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not to sound like a stuck record but you guys have to remember this game runs 24/7. The current setup has many different issues at different times of the day.
7am-5pm (2am-12pm EST?)
Pros:
upto 200 people in one server... just right for a small map
balanced untill about 5pm
Cons:
Not enough players sometimes, need more Euro players....
5pm-7am (12pm-2am)
Pros:
<400 in each server good numbers
"war effort" is just like old MA....
Cons:
too many players for small maps
..... which leads to "old ma" style play (more players per mile then the old single server)
cant get into server of choice
unbalanced in BOTH servers generally. (loosing team in serverA joins serverB to become the winning team instead of fighting)
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Oh my God!
There was a horde of Rooks taking fields last night!
With eny and country balancing in effect!
My GOD! The horror of the HORDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Save us, someone save us!
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A very long summer...
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Originally posted by gpa3
Oh my God!
There was a horde of Rooks taking fields last night!
With eny and country balancing in effect!
My GOD! The horror of the HORDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Save us, someone save us!
dose Skuzzy have a "bribe" link for "png's"? :t