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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: tailblues on May 15, 2007, 07:08:40 AM
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As far as I see in the game (well, I might be wrong), altitude is written in feets, speeds are written in mph, and plane-to-plane distance is described in yards, and no way to change that to metrics. Is it possible to change any of these to metrics? (at least in the gauges). I've tried a search of the forum with, "metric, gague" it seems that customization is possible... Do we have some link to sets of metric gagues that can be used with german planes?
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Strange thing is that, with more than 10 years of flying in virtual world, I feel I'm quite used to the feet/mile system. But in real world, not at all. In the simulation, I can feel how fast is 100mph (well, at least I know how to handle my plane not to stall ), but in the real world (well, driving a car in US, in a business trip), riding in 56MPH doesn't give me any clue. Same for feet. In terms of altitue, 10000 ft means something for me (say, 10k feet, years of flight-sim, I know how high it is), but when I actually fly my ultra-light, I still prefer metric-altitude.
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56 mph in the states? thats residentual areas, e-way is 75 mph in michigan, at least, since being here in canada, i see why their traffic fatalitys are low, compared to the u.s., they only let the canadians drive at 80 kmph...(feels like about 40 mph)..AND yes ive been pulled over many times, but I gotta admit the canadian fuzz has been a gracious host, never got a ticket.:t
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From a recent thread in the wishlist forum:
Not going to happen gents. And it is not a point of realism or preferences. The problem is when fly planes in both English and metric. It instantly adds more work load to flying a metric plane if your primary rides English or visa versa. 2nd Communication becomes a major pain when different units are used with different airplanes. 3rd I have done both metric and English in a previous life, hated it so much it is not going to happen. HiTech
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:cry
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thanks for the pointing to the wishlist post, Lusche!
So HT wants to keep one measure system gamewide... hmm.. I can understand his point. But still, I would love to see some km speed meter and altitude gagues....
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Originally posted by Lusche
From a recent thread in the wishlist forum:
Not going to happen gents. And it is not a point of realism or preferences. The problem is when fly planes in both English and metric. It instantly adds more work load to flying a metric plane if your primary rides English or visa versa. 2nd Communication becomes a major pain when different units are used with different airplanes. 3rd I have done both metric and English in a previous life, hated it so much it is not going to happen. HiTech
Damn americans.
:rofl
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Originally posted by tailblues
thanks for the pointing to the wishlist post, Lusche!
So HT wants to keep one measure system gamewide... hmm.. I can understand his point. But still, I would love to see some km speed meter and altitude gagues....
Well there is one way you could get this done, but I think you'd need a good plan.
Just get the USA to switch to metric ! :D
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Were some axis planes in metric or did they use knots instead of mph? Just wondering....
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Originally posted by rodak
Were some axis planes in metric or did they use knots instead of mph? Just wondering....
Metric only.
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Only the British Empire and Americans used Imperial units. The rest of the world used metric instrumentation. The Russians still do.
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Originally posted by Viking
Only the British Empire and Americans used Imperial units. The rest of the world used metric instrumentation. The Russians still do.
Actually, Britain is officially a Metric country. It is taught in schools and used throughout, however, Imperial measurements are often displayed alongside their Metric equivalents. This is part of the phasing system of introducing metric to the country - which started in the late 60's, fading the Imperial system out slowly so as not to adversely effect the older generation who have spent so long with Imperial.
The U.S tried to adopt the Metric system but did it in a kind of overnight "Here it is!" way. It didn't really catch on, I understand.
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Originally posted by Viking
Only the British Empire and Americans used Imperial units. The rest of the world used metric instrumentation. The Russians still do.
Only three third-world countries do officially use non-metric systems today: Liberia, Myanmar and the United States of America. ;)
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
Damn americans.
:rofl
Damn everybody else. :D
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The airlines worldwide use feet and knots. All Flight levels are feet and speeds are knots. There has to be some standardisation and in this case imperials units won. I could be wrong but I think only America uses inches of mercury for altimeter settings, everyone else used millibars or hectopascals.
Also I notice the US military uses metric for distances anyway. When you think about it, imperial measurements are ridiculous. Who decided that there were 5280 feet in a mile anyway. (Must check google!)The Irish mile was longer again, which explains why we are always late:lol
To be honest I don't think it matters in AH, what they use as long as it's the same for everyone. In any case I never pay attention to the numbers, unlike real life. I could care less what height I am as long as I'm higher than the bogie I'm about to bounce. Speed is irrelevant too as long as I can get away from the above bogie after I miss him completely.
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Then why is it, that when I am blasting away at men/women in buffs, they are 3.0K +/- above my Ostwind. Or if school is out, flying Lancs, Liberators and Fortresses 100m above ground Carpet bombing everything in sight with impunity.
Those aren't yards. Those are Metric Meters and Kilometers.
Same thing for armor battles. Distance is measured in Metric units.
Seems like it is a mixed system.
LTARsqrl <> :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by LTARsqrl
Then why is it, that when I am blasting away at men/women in buffs, they are 3.0K +/- above my Ostwind. Or if school is out, flying Lancs, Liberators and Fortresses 100m above ground Carpet bombing everything in sight with impunity.
Those aren't yards. Those are Metric Meters and Kilometers.
Same thing for armor battles. Distance is measured in Metric units.
Seems like it is a mixed system.
LTARsqrl <> :rolleyes:
It is not. Distances are given in yards and kiloyards.
1K = 1 kiloyard= 1000yrds
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I think that feet, miles and mph are standardized international measurements in flight. Not meters or kph.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?
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Originally posted by Lusche
It is not. Distances are given in yards and kiloyards.
1K = 1 kiloyard= 1000yrds
1000 yards is 914 meters. So, kinda close.
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If we used the actual units on gauges in the actual aircraft, we'd have to contend with kph and meters for some aircraft (German, IJAAF, Russian, Italian), mph and feet in others (USAAF, RAF, unless RAF was knots), and knots and feet in others (USN, and maybe RN?). Also, I'm not sure if IJN used kph or knots in the aircraft.
I've flown in games that had that, and it was really hard to switch around among aircraft -- at least for me it was hard to get used to. You can always do seat-of-the-pants flying, but if you want to check things like your speed, altitude, and rate of climb quickly in combat situations, you need to have the feel of all the different measurement systems then.
Also, if you know stats on aircraft and then want to know, as you are being chased by a Spit 16, say, "Is a Spit 16 faster or slower than the plane I'm in?", multiple systems make it more difficult to know.
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In counterpoint, I've never had any real problem switching units as I've switched plane types in other sims that do so. Oddly enough, when I do fly a sim that mixes it up, I mentally tend to think of height in meters but speed in mph regardless of which aircraft I fly. The only guage that gives me any real trouble doing "on the fly conversions" is rate of climb.
The bigger problem I've found with more accurately represented guages in some sims is being able to actually read them on a computer screen in the first place.
But... that's just me. I wouldn't mind if they were in true units. And I don't see what it would impact anyone else if the option to always display feet and mph. Especially with the E6B that's always in standardized units.
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It would be cool to see an option though... maybe during game installation or possibly before starting play... US or METRIC measurements.
It seems like it would be simple to make a second set of gauges for the METRIC setting... and beyond that the only difference would be that the distance icon would have to be "re-calibrated" from 1000 yard measurements into kilometers.
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Actually, Britain is officially a Metric country. It is taught in schools and used throughout, however, Imperial measurements are often displayed alongside their Metric equivalents. This is part of the phasing system of introducing metric to the country - which started in the late 60's, fading the Imperial system out slowly so as not to adversely effect the older generation who have spent so long with Imperial.
The U.S tried to adopt the Metric system but did it in a kind of overnight "Here it is!" way. It didn't really catch on, I understand.
-Yes we Americans can thank the British for giving us their measurement system and then bailing out to join the metric world.-
On topic: I've played games where the gauges were based off of their proper measurements. It is confusing when going back and forth between nationalities.
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Originally posted by Tigger29
It would be cool to see an option though... maybe during game installation or possibly before starting play... US or METRIC measurements.
It seems like it would be simple to make a second set of gauges for the METRIC setting... and beyond that the only difference would be that the distance icon would have to be "re-calibrated" from 1000 yard measurements into kilometers.
HT's point about communication is the most likely the most important reason for not having dual gauges. Your teammates always know when you say, "he's at 16K going about 350", what you mean.
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what are the convergence settings in? feet or yards?
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I think that feet, miles and mph are standardized international measurements in flight. Not meters or kph.
Nope
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my fellow Americans...
Learning the Metric System is in the first week of high school Physics.
Please return to high school and pass those tests you failed so long ago; or, take the first Physics or Chemistry course in your life.
regards, TEShaw