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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on May 16, 2007, 01:25:03 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/05/16/iraq.harry/index.html
I can't say that I blame the royals for wussing out. However, I do think they (royals) should be excluded from military service if they are going to opt out of deployments just because they are dangerous adventures and might get killed. What would Lord Nelson think?.........
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we already know what nelson would say. "As the two fleets moved towards engagement, Nelson ran up a thirty-one flag signal to the rest of the fleet, spelling out the famous phrase "England expects that every man will do his duty".
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Nicely quoted :D
How the times have changed for our old fathers, and not for the better. Beware lest their fate befalls us as well.
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He should never have been put on the roster in the first place, and its prolly more of an act of common sense than "wussing out".
In regular defencive war it would have been fine to let him serve.
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Of course self-preservation rules the day, but to be the "King who was pulled from the duty roster because of fear" is quite another....I guess when you consider the royal family today being merely figureheads then it really is inconsequential. Poor kid, he wants to go serve with his brothers and sisters in harms way. He knows the score and he wants to go. Brave young man.
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Brave and stupid.
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cant be both, its a fine line ya know :aok
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Yup.
By beeing brave he is/was putting his entire group of fellow soldiers in even more risk. I bet his group is relived he is not going. :)
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It's too bad the media advertised him going in the first place..... If know one knew he was going, he would have been just another face in the crowd.
What did the media think was going to happen the minute they advertised he was going?
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I thought he'd be good bait
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I bet his group is relived he is not going.
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Probably. Who knows, maybe this is just a cover to get him in there without notice. Even just a short stay would cover the Kings prerequisite for bravery :lol
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yeah, let him wait for Iran ;)
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in days of old, kings led their troops in battle, now they just do public appearances.
"wave to your subjects harry"
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Originally posted by john9001
we already know what nelson would say. "As the two fleets moved towards engagement, Nelson ran up a thirty-one flag signal to the rest of the fleet, spelling out the famous phrase "England expects that every man will do his duty".
This was followed by a second signal
"Engage more closely" and was left flying for the rest of the battle.
Never mind the manouvers....Straight at 'em!!!!
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Originally posted by john9001
in days of old, kings led their troops in battle, now they just do public appearances.
"wave to your subjects harry"
In days of old, kings also ruled the lands, now they don't.
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Nelson died.
However the battle was won.
It was however before such times of hostages.
The prince would have worked like ripe clover for bees. Could have been counted as useful perhaps?
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Originally posted by Angus
It was however before such times of hostages.
The prince would have worked like ripe clover for bees. Could have been counted as useful perhaps?
king Richard the first of England was held hostage in 1192-1194.
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It's strange that two countries could be such close allies yet so distant ideologically. I mean, not only do they not hang their kings, but they seem to be proud of them.
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The Good King Richard???? Did anyone tell Robin and his merry men of Sherwood?? :p
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Originally posted by Shuffler
The Good King Richard???? Did anyone tell Robin and his merry men of Sherwood?? :p
of course, didn't you see the movie? robin and his men stole money from the evil sheriff of Nottingham to raise money for richard's ransom, and just as the evil prince john was about to capture robin, king richard shows up to make all thing right in the realm.
then robin hood and maid marian get married and raise lots of little hoods and live happily ever after.:D
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Originally posted by john9001
in days of old, kings led their troops in battle, now they just do public appearances
Back in the days it was easier for a king to stay alive though. If they'd been subjected to attacks by covert civilians, ranged fire or remote controlled explosions at any given moment, I doubt they would've stayed close to the frontline. They had a huge army around them and nobody got close to the king until the army was destroyed - Usually by then the king would've already fled back to home. Nobody either gave a crap if they killed a few civilians they didn't like. Would be much easier for Harry, too, if he could just opt to erase a whole village should a problem arise. Though, back in the age of kings there wasn't much for the civilian population to do; They could've only wielded a knife against an army, but nowadays a single man can blow up a convoy.
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Last time I checked, Nelson was never a Prince, let alone a King.
I do believe there are still Nelson types serving right now in Iraq et al.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Last time I checked, Nelson was never a Prince, let alone a King.
I think everyone is aware of that...but the England expects EVERY man to do his duty Nelson quote is relevant because Harry is an Englishman.
Harrry threatened to resign his comission if he wasn't allowed to go. Wonder if he will.
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I understand the desire to preserve a life that is in line for the throne.
I also understand that an individual who is expected to be the one others look up to for real leadership has to go where those he wants to follow him are going. Either he is a real soldier or he's merely a paper picture of a soldier.
If he made the offer to resign the commission over this he should. There is no reason to continue a fraud by the royals by one wearing a uniform they will not honor by deeds.
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Thank goodness the U.S. will never have that problem while Bush and Cheney are in office.
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Originally posted by rpm
Thank goodness the U.S. will never have that problem while Bush and Cheney are in office.
what are you saying ? your going to vote for McCain?
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I'm saying none of their children would ever serve in uniform for this country.
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Originally posted by john9001
in days of old, the Pope led their troops in battle, now they just do public appearances.
:D
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It is unfortunate situation. The man has the will, and feels its his duty to fight, however him going would put everyone else at risk.
If he still feels he wants to fight there are tons of other ways he can. Because your not physically on the battle field doesn't mean your not contributing....
Intel....Drone pilot etc....
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Prince Andrew served with distinction in the Falklands, but I guess Argies aren't quite as dangerous as southern Iraq where I thought every British soldier was a target....
Good on Harry for wanting to go...
Tronsky
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Now they're planning to send Harry to Afganistan.
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Originally posted by Fishu
Now they're planning to send Harry to Afganistan.
Hmmm... you think this is a ploy to take the media attention away from the mess which is Iraq?