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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: macleod01 on May 17, 2007, 09:04:30 AM
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Ok, Its taken me a long time, but Ime finally finished. Or thought I was until I decided to open it up to the boards lol. Here are some screenshots of it, Let me know what you think, should I submit or do a litle bit more to it? Thanks guys.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179352915_ahss0.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179352944_ahss1.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179353014_ahss2.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179353039_ahss3.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179353111_ahss4.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179353144_ahss5.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1179353179_ahss6.jpg)
Let me know what you think needs doing to it, if anything. Thanks again skinners. Special thanks to Larry who gave me the rivets for it and Kusty, who has been helping me out on Squad forum throughout the skinning
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What a coincidene, I'm currently building a model of that :O
Nice job.
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Any comments at all?
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wtg mac, it's really good! especially since it's your first proper skin!
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Well, gee... Since none of the other skinners are going to say anything, I guess I'll take a crack at it.
You've added a lot of "paint chipping" (I'm going to call it that, not sure if you call it that) with a light grey-ish color. This chipping all seems to use the same size brush, and on the side of the fuselage you can see perfectly round dots where you clicked onces. Paint won't chip in perfectly round circles for no reason.
I would start out in a harder brush, with a smaller brush size (half the size of what you used). If you want to cover the same size as the other brush, just use twice as many brush strokes to fill it in.
Then, when you're done with that layer I suggest duplicating it, hiding the original, and blurring the frak out of it. Say, a guassian blur with a 3.0 value.
Just for kicks and grins. You might like how it looks. Try different values.
It looks too uniform, too much like brush strokes right now.
Also, consider using a "cloud" layer. This is basically creating a new layer, selecting a dark color and a light color (forground/background -- try black/white) and filter > render > clouds. Take this layer, put it on top of every other layer, and reduce the opacity and play with the blending. You want the end result to just barely be visible. You want it to break up the solid patches of color you have with the "cloudy" variations.
Weathering is the tricky part. Even I am limited in what I can "pull off" so to speak. I was hoping the folks that are way better than I would chime in.
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Originally posted by Major Biggles
wtg mac, it's really good! especially since it's your first proper skin!
He lives!:O
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That light grey colour didnt work. It was ment to be bare metal :( Oh well. I will change that, but wont bother reposting screenies. Its just going to take up too much space and time, but consider it done. Anything else at all?
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The shade itself wasn't bad. I've used that myself. It's the brush you used that makes it more obvious. Same color, different tool, might be better.
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Ok..I didn't want to be the first to criticize, since I'm pretty new at this. Over all it looks very nice.
But the panels and rivets look too flat. If you have a layer for the lines..try to duplicate them and turn them white. Then offset (move) them a pixel or two, then adjust opacity. This will make the lines and rivets appear 3D.
Also the panel lines on the tail are to strong.
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Panel lines all over the plane are on th esame layer. Maybe it just contrasts a bit more against the Lichtblau, but I can assure you, the opacity of the tail panels is the same as the fusalage panels. I'll make the second lair of panels tonight, and then once a few more comments have been made (Im sure you guys can find stuff) I will post more screenies.
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Gausian blur the black spots to soften the edges.
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I like it,would definatley fly that, well done.:aok
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Here we go, Updated. The screenshot along with the pictures I had to go by.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180193270_bf109e4trop-1.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180192633_ahss3.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180193245_bf109e4trop.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180192597_ahss4.jpg)
What you think? Any more comments?
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Looks like the 3 needs to be bigger and closer to the cross. Check your font too.
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I agree about closer to the cross, but it looks the right size (Both line up with the top of the horizontal bar) and font looks darn near identical as well. If you have another suggestion as to the font, please let me know. I would re\lly love to see this in game, and want it to be as close to identical as possible
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The camo spots on top of the nose still don't "work"... They extend past the seam and "cut off" visibly. Just round them off yourself, BEFORE they hit the seam, or line up the spots below the seam (on the fuselage) so that they perfectly match up. Some of them are close, but are still a few pixels off.
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Can you please circle the ones that dont work krusty? im not seeing them
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Hi mac, nice skin- those 2 in front of cockpit.See how their end is cut off?
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ok, which photo, the above and to the left, or slightly below and to the right?
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Originally posted by macleod01
I agree about closer to the cross, but it looks the right size (Both line up with the top of the horizontal bar) and font looks darn near identical as well. If you have another suggestion as to the font, please let me know. I would re\lly love to see this in game, and want it to be as close to identical as possible
The "3" is not as thick and blocky as the actual photo. I took some time and checked for you, it appears to not be a standard Luftwhiner font. Your skin and your call as to whether you go with what you got or customize something to look more like the photo.
Cheers
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On both pics mac.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
The "3" is not as thick and blocky as the actual photo. I took some time and checked for you, it appears to not be a standard Luftwhiner font. Your skin and your call as to whether you go with what you got or customize something to look more like the photo.
Cheers
Fencer, imlooking for this to be an extremely acurate skin. Can you direct me to a place where I can get a more accurate font?
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Oh and mac.Finish that skin asap!I want to use it on my new map, and i think it will fit in perfectly;)
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8817/savanayw5.jpg)
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Originally posted by croduh
Oh and mac.Finish that skin asap!I want to use it on my new map, and i think it will fit in perfectly;)
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8817/savanayw5.jpg)
OH CRAP! You bet your little backside! I can send you the files if you want and you can put it in your map. At the moment im using your NAfrica terrain (Hope you dont mind). I just didnt think the BoB2004 terrain would suite it very well. lol.
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Originally posted by macleod01
Fencer, imlooking for this to be an extremely acurate skin. Can you direct me to a place where I can get a more accurate font?
Simmers Paintshop has all the fonts, but as I said the one on the plane you are doing does not match any on the standard Luftwaffe fonts, they must have hand painted it in the field.
http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/cat2.html (http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/forums/cat2.html)
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ok fencer, corrected the 3, I had to do it by hand so it looks a bitty rough, but it looks like it does in the photo. Croduh or krusty. Please save the photo and draw a circle round the splodges that are wrong. Im just not seeing them at all, and I want this to be correct. Thanks
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heh eok, I think I found 3 plodges that were cut off, I have corrected them, but I gotta go to work at the moment. Screenies will be posted later tonight for you guys and girls to disect. Thanks for the help so far folks
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Ahh, good you found 'em :aok
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I think so
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ok, new screenies(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180359820_ahss5.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180359842_ahss6.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180359870_ahss7.jpg) (http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1024_1180359916_ahss8.jpg)
There we go