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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Goat1 on May 18, 2007, 12:55:46 PM
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I just got a 22" wide screen and my frame rate is in the dirt. I was running
around 71 fps with my CRT, now I'm around 21 fps at 1680 X 1050.
The monitor is an Acer 22". Is there any thing I can do to increase my fps?
Thanks
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What video card, and what are your system specs?
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Video card is a NVDIDIA GeForce 6200
computer is a HP 420a, 2.16 GHZ, 1.0GB RAM, Windows XP
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From my discussion with Skuzzy regarding the same upgrade (haven't got the monitor yet, did some asking around first) and same basic card:
Your 6200 would simply put a gun to its silicon brain and pull the
trigger at that resolution.
Basically, you need to upgrade your vid card.
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Thanks, any recomendations on video cards?
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Checked out Best Buy and they have a wide range, which card would be the best for my computer? I don't want to spent too much and put a hemi into a Yugo.
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AGP or PCI-e??
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I ordered this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130076). The same card at any of the big box stores nearby is $200.
My rig is an old socket A AMD XP2400+ (roughly 2GHz) on an Asus A7N8X-X mobo, 1GB PC2700 RAM, SB Live soundcard, and Skuzzy said this should be plenty of card (basically my CPU would be the bottleneck, and any bigger or more badassed card would probably not be worth the expense).
Granted, different PCs altogether, but I would think the same model of card would serve you well.
I wish I could comment on the improvement over the 6200 I have currently, but "Overnight shipping delivered by 3PM" apparently means "Whenever Fed Ex feels like delivering it". :rolleyes: Anyway, some other folks are using it; other than Hoarach having some Mobo/vid card compatibility issues, I don't recall seeing any complaints about it.
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I just built Core 2 Duo rig and stuck a 7600GS 512mb PCI-E card in it yesterday coincidentally. I already had a 22" widescreen and was getting pretty much steady 60 fps in native res for the monitor. My refresh rate is 60 so that's the max fps I could get anyway.
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Originally posted by NOT
AGP or PCI-e??
Most likely AGP if its a 6200.
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You know nothing MrBucket!
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I myself have a PNY 7600 GS 512MB AGP which I got for $150 at Compusa. My processor is a AMD 64 3200+, 512MB of system RAM, a SB Audigy 2, and a 500W Ultra X-finity psu along with a 17" Acer LCD monitor.
I have high res textures and the sliders all the way up and pulling out 70-90+ FR with it rarely dropping below 70. Yea Im using 1024x768 because I think the 1650 looks too small but I would recommend the PNY 7600GS 512MB. For what you get I think its a hell of a card.
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Originally posted by Goat1
I just got a 22" wide screen and my frame rate is in the dirt. I was running
around 71 fps with my CRT, now I'm around 21 fps at 1680 X 1050.
The monitor is an Acer 22". Is there any thing I can do to increase my fps?
Thanks
You can get 71 fps again if you set the monitor res to that of your old CRT. Larger resolutions are require more graphics and cpu performance. And your computer is fairly low end and older while you monitor is pretty big.
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Thanks for the inputs, due to the limitations of my power supply (250W)
my choices were limited. Ended up getting the VISIONTEK RADEON X1300,
only problem is that it'll be a week before Best Buy can get it. Will let you know how it turns out.
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Originally posted by Goat1
Thanks for the inputs, due to the limitations of my power supply (250W)
my choices were limited. Ended up getting the VISIONTEK RADEON X1300,
only problem is that it'll be a week before Best Buy can get it. Will let you know how it turns out.
Yeah your power supply definantly would not support a higher end card. If you have to wait a week, why not order the video card online? You'll save some bones probably from BestBuy's price.
As I look at the X1300, I see that the specifications are saying you need a 350W power supply. Did the guys at BestBuy say their X1300 will work with 250W, like did they should you specifications for it? Or was the guy like "Yeah sure it should work." Because these people are generally not smart :)
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I rechecked the system requirements and it says 250w, so hopefully that's
correct.
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Originally posted by Goat1
I rechecked the system requirements and it says 250w, so hopefully that's
correct.
Then it should work!
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A 500W power supply is like $40 so why not upgrade?
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May still have to upgrade the power supply if I don't get acceptable results
with this card.
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Power supplies are the most mis understood aspect of computers. Total watts is not as import as the distribution on the various "rails". I couldnt find exactly how much power the X1300 draws but I'm gueesing about 14amps on your 12V rail. Look at your power supply and you'll see a chart on the side breaking down your wattage into the various rails. You need a minimum of 16 amps on your 12V rail (18 preferred). If you have less then 16 your going to have issues and can actually damage the card. I ran a GT7900 on a 300W PS with zero problems...but it had 18amps on the 12V rail.
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Originally posted by humble
Power supplies are the most mis understood aspect of computers. Total watts is not as import as the distribution on the various "rails". I couldnt find exactly how much power the X1300 draws but I'm gueesing about 14amps on your 12V rail. Look at your power supply and you'll see a chart on the side breaking down your wattage into the various rails. You need a minimum of 16 amps on your 12V rail (18 preferred). If you have less then 16 your going to have issues and can actually damage the card. I ran a GT7900 on a 300W PS with zero problems...but it had 18amps on the 12V rail.
This is very true. If you want to learn more about power supples and calculating how much power you need, check out these treads.
PSUs 101
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/PSU-101-102-ftopict198276.html (http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/PSU-101-102-ftopict198276.html)
PSU Calculating
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Watt-Calc-Mod-Guides_10-29-06-ftopict168951.html (http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/Watt-Calc-Mod-Guides_10-29-06-ftopict168951.html)
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I see a lot of people talk bad about the 6200 video card.. and I really can't complain about mine.
I paid $40 for it (AGP)... kept it for my upgrade.
I have an E6300 conroe, 2 gigs DDR2, and the 6200 video card. I get 40-50fps consistently at 512 texts, 1280X1024, and sliders about 2/3 to max. I used the hi-res pack at 1024 texts for awhile and framerates still in the 30-40 range, but went back to 512 after occasional stutters developed. I get a constant 75FPS at 256 texts, but don't care for the appearance at that level.
The only video problem I run into is flames and heavy fog. Gets real jumpy in those conditions, especially when zoomed in.. but still playable.
Yes I'd love to be able to max everything out, but I just don't have the money to invest right now. While my M/B does support PCI-e, I'll probably replace it anyway when I choose to upgrade to PCI-e, as it only supports 4X. I'll probably get a high end AGP card before that happens though. Also a new power supply at that time.. I only have a 300watt (Haven't checked amperage ratings on it.. but no problems). I put new guts in my old Systemax case... but that's all down the road.
I'd imagine though 1680X1050 might be a bit much for this card.. without dropping down to 256 texts... so good luck with your new card
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If you are looking for a new power supply though, I would highly recommend the Ultra X-Finity. I myself bought a 500W one through circuitcity and paid $60 because I had a gift card. I have yet to have any problems with it and it runs very quiet while keeping the case pretty cool at the same time. I have a higher end card I believe in my 7600GS and it powers it pretty easy.
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the lady of the house just bought a Saphirre Radeon 1950XT 256 meg GDDR3 for 129.99 included shipping from newegg to replace her ASUS Radeon 850Pro ( in which case she gave it to me , although I bought it to begin with for her )
I was under the impression the X1300 series were lower end cards........
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I checked the specs on my power supply, the 12v rail is rated at 14 amps.
I'm still waiting on the card, but if this set up doesn't work, I can return the card and upgrade my supply to widen my choices.