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Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on May 18, 2007, 01:38:36 PM
I saw this come up, thought it was interesting in view of the upcoming election issues:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070518/pl_nm/usa_politics_bloomberg_dc_1

He might be playing the role of spoiler, But for which party?
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: Halo on May 18, 2007, 01:54:26 PM
Thompson and Powell in a new third party ticket might just win it all.
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: tedrbr on May 18, 2007, 02:11:54 PM
Before 2008?  Not sure.  Doubt it.  But with the Dems and Reps catering to their extremists members, there leaves a lot of people who consider themselves moderate whom might jump to a 3rd Party that took this path.  May not "win it all", but could pull enough votes in Congress in a few years to be the deciding factor on many issues.... If Reps and Dems keep disappointing their membership and continue to bee seen as ineffective, you could see mass desertions from the party ranks.

Not that any of this would be a bad thing.  American politics really could use a real shake up to the status quo.

"Core values" and extremist views that effect few Americans get play time and bills passed, major issues that effect most Americans are recycled through committees until they die.  Endless debates, hearings, investigations, and non-binding resolutions take up much of what times those politicians actually bother to spend in Washington D.C.   Even things that effect Americans that do get passed in each House, die in Committee.
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on May 18, 2007, 02:29:06 PM
I want to see what they are going to state as the party's platform. If they can protect the constitutional amendments, and at the same time deal with problems like inflation, immigration, Large, unregulated corporations, Iraq, Energy, pollution, etc.

That will determine if they are viable, more so than pre-existing celebrity status, to me.
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: Elfie on May 18, 2007, 02:44:15 PM
I'd never vote for Michael Bloomberg, not with his anti-gun stance.
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: Airscrew on May 18, 2007, 02:49:39 PM
ya know I'm not 100% on my history but it seems if you look at past politcal parties in the US we have had major/minor changes to the party structure every 60 or so years.   Maybe we are due for a major upheaval in the political partys now...  one can only hope :)
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on May 18, 2007, 07:03:10 PM
origanally posted by Elfie
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I'd never vote for Michael Bloomberg, not with his anti-gun stance.


I don't know, Elfie...Seems like even the mainstream Democrat's have dropped that issue. Oh, you'll have your Diane Feinsteins', of course. But when they get close to presidential level, It seems' they dry up on it. I know Clinton got into it really hot and heavy, But it seems like it only really stuck in CA. One thing is certain...The two current parties that have been in power for Decades(Centuries?) are so in need of an enema on both sides, it's pathetic.
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: Mr No Name on May 18, 2007, 07:10:08 PM
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Before 2008?  Not sure.  Doubt it.  But with the Dems and Reps catering to their extremists members,


Republicans arent even catering to any of their party.  Have you seen the new Amnesty plan for illegal aliens?
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: Elfie on May 18, 2007, 07:23:07 PM
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I don't know, Elfie...Seems like even the mainstream Democrat's have dropped that issue.


Check out Bloomberg's anti-gun stance, he's pretty hard core.
Title: Possible, realistic 3rd Party in '08?
Post by: Masherbrum on May 18, 2007, 07:25:55 PM
The Two-Party System has long been a failure.    I'd embrace Colin Powell running, although I recall him saying that he "wouldn't run because of the press possibly cutting his wife down."