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Title: Why do I quit
Post by: CarlsBee on May 19, 2007, 09:19:34 PM
I quit!

Well I suck, but that's no shame.  Still my chat previleges were suspended, asked why got no answer.  Today got got muted at king of the hill, would like to know why.  This is BS a few think they are too good.  I say get a life.
Post my wrongs.  Well forget it, seems a noob is not welcome so be it.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Lusche on May 19, 2007, 09:26:45 PM
I wasn't there when you got finally muted in Koth, but you were already lucky not to be booted before that. Excessive check6, not following the rules (which are stated in the Arena message) and you were warned by our host...
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: CarlsBee on May 19, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
I wasn't there when you got finally muted in Koth, but you were already lucky not to be booted before that. Excessive check6, not following the rules (which are stated in the Arena message) and you were warned by our host...


damn Mr wright!
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: SAS_KID on May 19, 2007, 09:43:21 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
I wasn't there when you got finally muted in Koth, but you were already lucky not to be booted before that. Excessive check6, not following the rules (which are stated in the Arena message) and you were warned by our host...


and you act surprised?
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: tedrbr on May 19, 2007, 09:50:46 PM
Summertime Squeakers invading KoTH now?  

Oh the horror.... the horror......  

Haven't been in one for a couple weeks, but it was getting kinda ridiculous even then.... constant chatter on tuned VOX.  People shooting others before 'fights on'.  Pilots trailing in a close, low six position hoping to get that quick kill when 'fight's on'.  Going above 6K.  Not a constant thing (other than VOX chatter), but some incident or another for many rounds.  

Think I'll extend my break from the game.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: CarlsBee on May 19, 2007, 09:58:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by tedrbr
Summertime Squeakers invading KoTH now?  

Oh the horror.... the horror......  

Haven't been in one for a couple weeks, but it was getting kinda ridiculous even then.... constant chatter on tuned VOX.  People shooting others before 'fights on'.  Pilots trailing in a close, low six position hoping to get that quick kill when 'fight's on'.  Going above 6K.  Not a constant thing (other than VOX chatter), but some incident or another for many rounds.  

Think I'll extend my break from the game.

u an idiot
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: hubsonfire on May 19, 2007, 10:58:15 PM
Well, Ted's theory seems to hold some water.

Gonna be a long summer. :rolleyes:
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: TinmanX on May 19, 2007, 11:53:24 PM
WTF were you doing at KotH? You can't spawncamp there!
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Masherbrum on May 19, 2007, 11:54:56 PM
LOL, ooooh boy, the things some post in the thread starters.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: 5PointOh on May 19, 2007, 11:57:37 PM
INteresting:aok
Title: Carlsbee
Post by: Sluggard on May 20, 2007, 12:48:12 AM
Keep trying only answer!

tryed KOTH for all of 5 minutes myself,,,,,yup I don't unerstand everything,,,,was not exactly made to feel welcome

think must be for the better pilots,,,i will try again someday


Sluggard
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Geary420 on May 20, 2007, 01:43:47 AM
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
u an idiot


Brilliant!
(http://www.mustangmods.com/data/10900/brilliant.jpg)
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Vudak on May 20, 2007, 01:44:40 AM
Carls, you were muted at KoTH because you repeatedly broke the rules and all attempts to alert you to that fact seemed to fail as you continued to break them.

Sluggard, from what I saw you just came in at a bad time.  Right before the fight's called is not the most opportune time to ask how to play.  I encourage you to come back next month, but try to get there a few minutes early for when the rules are being explained if it's your first time.

The basic rules are also stated on the arena message.
Title: Re: Carlsbee
Post by: WMLute on May 20, 2007, 02:00:21 AM
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Originally posted by Sluggard
Keep trying only answer!

tryed KOTH for all of 5 minutes myself,,,,,yup I don't unerstand everything,,,,was not exactly made to feel welcome

think must be for the better pilots,,,i will try again someday


Sluggard


I am very sorry if you felt that way sluggard.  You are of course most welcome to participate in the King of the Hill.  As was already stated, your timing was a bit off.  AKDogg was hosting solo for his 1st time tonight, and that (I know for me anyway) isn't easy.  So if you felt not welcome, i'm sorry.  Give 'er a go next month.  It is one of the best events in Aces High, and it's for all players of all skill levels.



Carls, you prob. should have been ejected.  (my bad there.  I told AKDogg to just .mute you) Giving fuzeman (who is a King of the Hill CM btw) 7 check 6's as you are taking off is really not going to endear you to anybody.  I am not sure what made you think that repeatedly giving a CM chk 6's would be a good idea, but it was quite a lasp of judgment on your part.

You were warned.  You ignored those warnings.

But please get this straight.  YOU chose to act the way you did.  It was those actions that got you .muted during the KOTH.  Had you behaved appropriatly, you would have had the pleasure to participate in a most excellent KOTH.  (It JUST now ended.  was 5hrs 45min long)

Please don't lay the blame for what happened in tonight's King of the Hill at any door but your own.  You derved it.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: CFYA on May 20, 2007, 02:00:46 AM
Sluggard

KOTH is not the place for beginers in many ways. If you weren't welcomed as well as you think you deserved I am sorry. I think maybe you didnt show up in time for the rules in the begining was some of the issues. People are on a short rope with there patients these days with the younger crowd. Many times the younger kids dont bother to put the same effort in to having fun playing by the rules or gentlmenly ways....ie ho'ing(tho this not just a problem with the young). Maybe you walked into some of that. You should come by KOTH again and get there early. Im am certain youll be welcomed if you put your best foot foward.

Carls

You stuck your foot in it my friend. KOTH is not the MA. You should maybe control your defense mechanism a little more. You should take the time to get there early and go over the rules. I am positive if you ask properly and be patient someone will tell you all you need to know.....thats the Hosts job! KOTH first and foremost is about being patient. Sometimes 30 minutes flying/waiting doing not to much followed by 10 minutes of sheer fightin.
KOTH has a very strict set of rules.....break them and your out....11 or 111 years old. You said you have a issue with rules in KOTH....learn to master that problem or youll continue to have muted/ejected issues.

Just an observation......you do what you feel is right.
 
EDIT: I see WmLute just posted similar remarks....sorry if I am reduntant.

CFYA
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: AKDogg on May 20, 2007, 02:37:09 AM
Carls, U were muted by me after the last comment u made to fuzeman.  We as a CM team do not tolerate Racial, dorogetory, or any flameing of any kind to anyone.  I will not repeat here what u said as I believe this is not the place to discuss this.  I hate to mute people and the people who do get muted do deserve it, espescially if it in the KOTH.  U were like others have stated here, warned by 3 CM's for your actions and remarks.  In all actuallity that to much warning and I should have ejected ya.  I was giving u the benefit of the doubt.  Next time I won't be so Kind.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Gianlupo on May 20, 2007, 04:47:12 AM
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Originally posted by tedrbr

Haven't been in one for a couple weeks, but it was getting kinda ridiculous even then.... constant chatter on tuned VOX.  People shooting others before 'fights on'.  Pilots trailing in a close, low six position hoping to get that quick kill when 'fight's on'.  Going above 6K.  Not a constant thing (other than VOX chatter), but some incident or another for many rounds.  



OMG!!! What happened to KoTH??? I haven't been playing it for some months, I really hope it didn't become like that!
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: megadud on May 20, 2007, 06:44:29 AM
i love KOTH i am sorry i missed it. It is my favorite part of aces high. i wish they had it more often. Definetly for better pilots, newbs get pwned quick. i'll be there to win it next time :aok :cool:
Title: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: Bronk on May 20, 2007, 07:00:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by CarlsBee
I quit!

Well I suck, but that's no shame.  Still my chat previleges were suspended, asked why got no answer.  Today got got muted at king of the hill, would like to know why.  This is BS a few think they are too good.  I say get a life.
Post my wrongs.  Well forget it, seems a noob is not welcome so be it.

vvvvvvvvvvvvv
(http://niblet.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/squeezer-squeaker-beeper.jpg)



Bronk
Title: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: Max on May 20, 2007, 07:33:20 AM
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
I quit!



Ta ta for now. :D
Title: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: Stampf on May 20, 2007, 08:18:21 AM
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
I quit!

Well I suck, but that's no shame.  Still my chat previleges were suspended, asked why got no answer.  Today got got muted at king of the hill, would like to know why.  This is BS a few think they are too good.  I say get a life.
Post my wrongs.  Well forget it, seems a noob is not welcome so be it.


I don't know a thing about KOTH rules, or specifics as I am not nearly a good enough stick to venture there yet.  I will say this to you though.  No one in the year and half I have been playing has impressed me as a bigger arse than you sir.  Your nonsense, banter on country channel, your substanceless posts here, and your in game behavior, or lack thereof has been a good sign of your character.  Your the only person who ever made me so mad I cursed on range radio.  Parking your panzer right on top of peoples (mine) Tigers in the old TT, even after being told you will get people bombed that way.  Ignoring peoples suggestions about this, and repeatedly acting like and idjut.  Unlike some, I love to see new people join the game, but your sir, the community and game are far better without.  Respect and friends are made through ones actions, and the reverse is true as well.  I won't miss you.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Lye-El on May 20, 2007, 08:24:13 AM
If anything, it sounds like you guys cut him too much slack. :t
Title: Noobie >>> Me
Post by: Daubie on May 20, 2007, 09:14:54 AM
Hi,

I'm not so new, a couple months already.  Everybody has probably seen my handle as I flame to the ground.

One timed I cussed in the text radio in the TA and I was warned.  Suffice it to realize I don't swear in here.  I know all the cuss words, framing houses one tends to pick up the jargon.  For me to not to cuss is close to being miraculous.  Some guys on the vox radio embarrass me.  I'm surprised at the very least the FCC hasn't warned HTC to cool it.  Some of the language in here is on the fringes of being illegal.  Go Google Echelon as it pertains to communication.  

I quit joining in on the Special events as I am very green here.  There, too, I was warned to cool it.  So, I bugged out.  No malicious intent on my part was intended, I'm just not too privy to how you guys do things here.

Vox radio?  If a guy annoys me I squelch him.  If there is too much chatter to my squad channel, I tune down one notch and listen to the hum of my engine or the sound of the rounds splashing on me.  I do prefer the text channel.

For you to quit is rather ridiculous.  Why not adjust your behavior and adapt to your surroundings?

Daubie
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Stampf on May 20, 2007, 09:23:35 AM
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For you to quit is rather ridiculous. Why not adjust your behavior and adapt to your surroundings?


When his gameplay is horrible, how else can he get attention?
Title: Re: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: Vudak on May 20, 2007, 11:58:03 AM
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Originally posted by Stampf
I am not nearly a good enough stick to venture there yet.  



Come to next month's KoTH if you get the chance, you don't have to be a good stick, you just have to follow the rules :)

Participating in KoTH is one of the better ways to improve in this game, anyway.  You're guaranteed a few duels with people much better at this game than you, and when you get shot down, with CM Eye mode you're guaranteed a front row seat to see some of the best sticks tangle with each other.
Title: Re: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: hubsonfire on May 20, 2007, 12:17:56 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
vvvvvvvvvvvvv
(http://niblet.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/squeezer-squeaker-beeper.jpg)



Bronk


:lol
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Sketch on May 20, 2007, 12:19:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by tedrbr
Summertime Squeakers invading KoTH now?  

Oh the horror.... the horror......  

Haven't been in one for a couple weeks, but it was getting kinda ridiculous even then.... constant chatter on tuned VOX.  People shooting others before 'fights on'.  Pilots trailing in a close, low six position hoping to get that quick kill when 'fight's on'.  Going above 6K.  Not a constant thing (other than VOX chatter), but some incident or another for many rounds.  

Think I'll extend my break from the game.


I try them again and again but get tiered of the constant MA stuff... especially the Ho's and Picks...  Pretty easy to fly around and pick everyone in a fight or ho them.  Yeah it was a valid tactic in the REAL world, but if you got a collision message then, you both would be dead...  I like the fights if they are 1v1 or even 2v1... but when I get picked by a guy skirting the edges, it is a waste of time for me.  Who knows I might do one again some time....
Dogg did fine from what I was seeing, but saw constant type on the 101 channel of all the rules Dogg just told us.  Didn't think that was needed nor the constant chatter while he was trying to explain the rules...  Just my .02
Title: Re: Carlsbee
Post by: tedrbr on May 20, 2007, 02:26:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sluggard
Keep trying only answer!

tryed KOTH for all of 5 minutes myself,,,,,yup I don't unerstand everything,,,,was not exactly made to feel welcome

think must be for the better pilots,,,i will try again someday


Sluggard


Been a lot of problems in KoTH on and off.  Mainly from pilots coming in, not reading the rules posted on the Arena Message, and constantly using the tuned VOX channel which you are supposed to avoid using so Moderator can run the game.  You are expected to enter a structured event with knowledge of what is going on.  Which can be found here. (http://ahevents.org/)  There is not a lot of patience for someone that enters KoTH with no idea what's going on and starts asking lot's of questions over VOX, or giving a play by play over tuned VOX.

If you read and understand the KoTH rules, avoid chatter on tuned VOX, and talk and use txt in the Tower when not in the air, you'll find a pretty friendly crew (when not complaining about some other noob not following the arena rules.  
Making use of the God's Eye View of the other players still in a fight can teach you some things about ACM as well, and is fun to watch at times.

KoTH is a structured event.  If you prefer free-for-all, they yes, stay in the war arenas.  If you need to ask a lot of questions, use Tower Text, Tower VOX, or PM another player that seems helpful.  But read and understand the rules first, as best you can.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Vudak on May 20, 2007, 02:42:04 PM
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Originally posted by Gianlupo
OMG!!! What happened to KoTH??? I haven't been playing it for some months, I really hope it didn't become like that!


It's still fun, Gian, don't worry :D

The usual drama here and there but nothing to keep me from spending 5 and a half hours :eek: in the SEA last night :aok
Title: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: RedTop on May 20, 2007, 03:02:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by CarlsBee
I quit!

Well I suck, but that's no shame.  Still my chat previleges were suspended, asked why got no answer.  Today got got muted at king of the hill, would like to know why.  This is BS a few think they are too good.  I say get a life.
Post my wrongs.  Well forget it, seems a noob is not welcome so be it.


Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya on the way out.
Title: Re: Why do I quit
Post by: Alucard on May 20, 2007, 03:44:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by CarlsBee
Today got got muted at king of the hill, would like to know why.  This is BS a few think they are too good.
Might have had something to do with calling one of the CM's names after they asked you to follow the rules.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Gianlupo on May 20, 2007, 06:09:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Vudak
It's still fun, Gian, don't worry :D

The usual drama here and there but nothing to keep me from spending 5 and a half hours :eek: in the SEA last night :aok


Wow! 5 hours and half.... to bad it was too late for me... No, wait.... I could have waked at 7 in the morning and still have a couple of hours of fun! :eek: :D
Title: Re: Noobie >>> Me
Post by: REP0MAN on May 20, 2007, 06:13:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Daubie
I'm surprised at the very least the FCC hasn't warned HTC to cool it.  Some of the language in here is on the fringes of being illegal.  Go Google Echelon as it pertains to communication.  

Daubie


Just so you know, this is a privately owned company to which you subscribe to. HTC is not regulated by the FCC as they do not broadcast on a public frequency. It's like trying to say that you pay for Cinemax, tune to it and complain about the language you hear.

:aok
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: yanksfan on May 20, 2007, 06:15:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by CarlsBee
u an idiot

-----------------------------------------------------------------

He's an idiot? how stupid must u be to get muted and booted from a game with cartoon airplanes?!

Don't act so childish!
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: LTARsqrl on May 20, 2007, 06:27:49 PM
Notice that since it was made obvious to all that Carlsbee was the idiot in this whole incident, he hasn't responded?  

DOH ! ! !   :rofl


LTARsqrl  <>
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: 68ROX on May 20, 2007, 06:50:16 PM
This "game" is like any other facet of community life...

Football, wrestling, hockey, basketball, jobs, business....LIFE.

ATTITUDE is EVERYTHING

PLAY...give it your ALL....LEARN...STUDY....PRACT ICE = WIN

QUIT = Lose
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: HomeBoy on May 20, 2007, 07:46:30 PM
Last night was my first KOTH.  I have always wanted to do it but felt it would be humiliating.  I was pleasantly surprised.  It was actually a lot of fun.  You don't stand out when you get knocked out early so it's not much of an ego hit.  I just tried to learn with each round and look for small victories.  I did get embarrassed once when I was concentrating on getting separation and thought I was on level AP and was actually on autoclimb instead and ended up at almost 20K.  Several guys made a bit of an issue about it but it was an honest mistake and I didn't want to waste everybody's time trying to explain anything.  Maybe some thought I was trying to cheat.  Whatever, it was indeed embarrassing but wasn't that big a deal.  I just had to exit from the round in a plane I thought I had a decent chance of doing a little better in.  Oh well.

As for the nonsense with Carls.  I was amazed at how much leeway that guy was given.  I thought he should have been booted long before he was muted.  In fact, I muted him myself long before he was officially muted.  I thought AKDogg did a fine job of running things.  I was unable to stay the whole time but it was a worthwhile experience.  I think I will do it again.

It's one of those events where good sticks and average joes like me can coexist pretty well.  Some try to really win the event while the rest of us watch and learn and try to win individual fights.  There is a definite strategy to KOTH and I'm sure if I did it a few times I would maybe even start to compete a little.

! to AKDogg et al for a great event!
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Stang on May 20, 2007, 07:59:49 PM
One squeaker down hundreds to go!

:t
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: evenhaim on May 20, 2007, 08:13:35 PM
yay!! (btw stang is a l33t haxor!!1 ELEVENTYONE)
Title: Re: Re: Noobie >>> Me
Post by: scottydawg on May 20, 2007, 09:06:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by REP0MAN
Just so you know, this is a privately owned company to which you subscribe to. HTC is not regulated by the FCC as they do not broadcast on a public frequency. It's like trying to say that you pay for Cinemax, tune to it and complain about the language you hear.

:aok

Thanks for saving me the typing ;)
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: fuzeman on May 20, 2007, 11:06:04 PM
Carls / CarlsBee,
1) You lost chat privledges and then started a new account. You didn't pay the time for your 'crime', learned nothing from it.

2) Constantly check6ing someone, whether a CM or not, is a flag you want to be annoying. You were and you got muted.

A KOTH strategy for new guys? First fight is important and thats where your seperation helps. Look at the map. Definately try to make that first fight a 1 on 1.

Sluggard, We had issues before with the radio so we now tune radio 5 to 101 as mentioned in the Arena Message. All rules and info go out on that channel so its important for the players to be on it. You're definately welcome.

Homeboy, I don't think anyone was thinking you were trying to gain an advantage being over 6k. When that happens it's usually a pilot that's afk.

CMs can't see everything going on and other KOTHers do help by pointing stuff out to them. It makes the CMs job much easier to spot things that are going on.
Many times the CM is putting an official tone on stuff brought up or spotted by other players.
IMO all KOTHers should act like junior CMs kind of. It definately makes the event better and more enjoyable for all.
A person's first KOTH will most likely be his worst. You just wont feel at ease but chances are the second one you will fit in and do much better.

Gianlupo, Whats changed in KOTHs? I don't forget to turn KillShooter off anymore.
Let's not mention FriendlyCollisions at this time. :)
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Gianlupo on May 21, 2007, 02:38:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by fuzeman
Gianlupo, Whats changed in KOTHs? I don't forget to turn KillShooter off anymore.
Let's not mention FriendlyCollisions at this time. :)


:lol Too bad, fuze, those were unforgettable moments!
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: kilz on May 21, 2007, 04:01:38 AM
Skill level has no meaning in KoTH. noob, just out of the noob stage or vet KoTH offers alot of training to everyone. i recomened Noobs to show up film it and learn from it. it has been a long time since i have played in a KoTH last one i played i didnt do to bad i didnt win it but i was last 5 or 6 in the rounds and think i even made it to the last two once but its always a blast when i am in there.

with out a doubt the CMs will not put up with loud mouths stupid crap and will act fast on removing you from the Event. Salute i will try to make the next KoTH and make a good target for all of you.
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: Ghosth on May 21, 2007, 07:48:44 AM
If you really want to learn, and if your man enough to take the lumps that come with it. A couple of hours spend fighting & filming in KOTH will help advance you to a whole new level. Its not about rank, its not about score, its about skill, SA, ACM and shooting ability.

The average guy who's been flying AH 2 - 8 months can learn more in one night of KOTH  than in months of arena flying. Skill levels tend to be well above average. However, there are always some who are learning as you are. So you have the chance at least to win a few fights.

Be polite, be respectful, wait till someone is in tower before asking questions.

Experienced KOTH pilots tend to be really good pilots with awesome skills. Most are willing to share and be help full if you approach them nicely. I highly recomend that everyone try at least one KOTH  at least once a year. Just leave your ego at the door so it doesn't get bruised to badly.  :)
Title: Why do I quit
Post by: scottydawg on May 21, 2007, 07:55:01 AM
KOTH is fun.

Rule 1:
Leave your ego at the door.

Rule 2:
Prepare to get schooled.

Rule 3:
Have fun and lighten up, Francis.