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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on May 21, 2007, 07:03:37 PM
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How sad.
The legend is burnt out almost completely. It survived all that tea-races and got burnt down in London :(
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/uk_enl_1179752114/img/1.jpg)
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Yeah I saw that on the news a little while ago. Such a fantastic ship.
:(
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Apparently it is not completely destroyed as members of the restoration team said that the damage was far less than originally expected. Unfortunately the price of restoration will go up, but the the ship should be restored!
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
]Such a fantastic ship.
:(
and a so so blended scotch whiskey.
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It was in the news on all Russian national TV channels.
Restored clipper will be better then new, but it will be new-made :( Fake :( I mean - touching the mast that you know was bended by the wind at the Good Hope feels different... :(
Like touching a machine at Aurora cruiser, understanding that this mechanism was moving the vessel at Tsushima battle back in 1905, and it still can be operated and produce 3500 h/p for 6000 tons of displacement...
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Originally posted by Boroda
It was in the news on all Russian national TV channels.
Restored clipper will be better then new, but it will be new-made :( Fake :( I mean - touching the mast that you know was bended by the wind at the Good Hope feels different... :(
Like touching a machine at Aurora cruiser, understanding that this mechanism was moving the vessel at Tsushima battle back in 1905, and it still can be operated and produce 3500 h/p for 6000 tons of displacement...
i believe that the mast and a host of other parts where in another location at the time of the fire. it was mostly the planking that was damaged as i understand it.
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(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/u_96/cs.jpg)
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This may seem dumb...but what was it originally? Dont get to watch the news so I missed out. And dont get much time on here to research.
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It was the pinnacle of merchant sailing ships, or at least the fleetest of the fleet. It was to sailing ships like the F8F was to prop fighters.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
This may seem dumb...but what was it originally? Dont get to watch the news so I missed out. And dont get much time on here to research.
(http://www.grahamowen.com/Uk/Cutty-Sark.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/26/Cutty_Sark_Xmas_tree.jpg/800px-Cutty_Sark_Xmas_tree.jpg)
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So it was the creme of the crop?
I know very little about sailing ships but it sure is a beautiful ship.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Apparently it is not completely destroyed as members of the restoration team said that the damage was far less than originally expected. Unfortunately the price of restoration will go up, but the the ship should be restored!
Was much of it already dismantled before the fire?
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Over 50% wasnt there for the fire ....
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Originally posted by AKIron
It was the pinnacle of merchant sailing ships, or at least the fleetest of the fleet. It was to sailing ships like the F8F was to prop fighters.
I think that title would be better bestowed upon the herzogin cecilie.
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Originally posted by expat
Over 50% wasnt there for the fire ....
Good deal.
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Fortunately, we still have some trees left over from the great age of sail.
She will be rebuilt.
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Originally posted by Boroda
It was in the news on all Russian national TV channels.
Restored clipper will be better then new, but it will be new-made :( Fake :( I mean - touching the mast that you know was bended by the wind at the Good Hope feels different... :(
Like touching a machine at Aurora cruiser, understanding that this mechanism was moving the vessel at Tsushima battle back in 1905, and it still can be operated and produce 3500 h/p for 6000 tons of displacement...
Although the fire is devastating... all of the masts, rigging and decoration (all the original) were off the ship at the time of the fire. It is currently undergoing a restoration so the only things actually lost were the decks.
Although it is a disaster, it could have been a hell of a lot worse.
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the woods not the important bit of the ship, as that gets replaced alot over time as it rots etc,
the most important part they said they were worried about is its metal frame, if thats warped then thats a much bigger deal
sad :-(
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Originally posted by Boroda
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/u_96/cs.jpg)
With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.
sorry gainsie but you couldn't be more incorrect. the idea was to get to the other side of the world and back as quickly as possible. the successful masters piled on heavy canvas in gale force winds to drive their ships at speeds often in excess of sixteen knots and more. they seldomly hove to even for important repairs. speed was the name of the game and there were significant amounts of cash for the masters who were quick to deliver their cargos, pick up new ones and return to europe making clipper and windjammer captains some of the wealthiest members of the working classes in both europe and north america.
as an example the bark herzogin cecilie made on dash of twenty knots during a gale and with favorable currents.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.
Sorry, it's just an illustration from a Soviet book that had a chapter about Cutty Sark. Chukovsky's "Frigate captains" was a must-read for all Soviet kids interested in history.
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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
With that amout of wind, as evidenced by the significant chop on the water, no captain in his right mind would order a full-sail-set as depicted here. The ship would capsize in a heartbeat.
Wrong. They did "order full-sail". The ships did not capsize either.