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Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: texasmom on May 23, 2007, 05:12:34 PM
Does anyone else here except me believe that the term "issues" is the laziest, sloppiest, most annoying piece of verbiage in the English Language?

Let's toss in this generic term which covers EVERYTHING so we don't have to articulate anything ever again.... "issues"
good grief  *rolling my eyes*


And as long as I'm already complaining... what about "WE?"  
I hate to hear "WE" in a sentence like this one:  
"We need to yada yada yada yada."
That actually translates into "You" there.  

If you mean you want someone to do something... just say "You..."  Don't make it sound liberally like you're actually going to help out in any fashion (because you know you're not)... just say "You."
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: eagl on May 23, 2007, 05:17:20 PM
Sounds like we have some issues to deal with, don't we?
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: nirvana on May 23, 2007, 05:27:46 PM
We're going to need to deal with some issues I'm having with stuff...
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: texasmom on May 23, 2007, 05:45:14 PM
Yeah, I guess that was kinda PMS-like, wasn't it?
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: JB88 on May 23, 2007, 05:47:10 PM
ACHOO~!

(reaches for a box of issues)
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: nirvana on May 23, 2007, 08:14:55 PM
I just failed to sympathize with you, my apologies.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Gunthr on May 23, 2007, 08:29:43 PM
looks like mom has the infamous issue issue.  We need to work on that....

;)
Title: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 23, 2007, 08:48:05 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Does anyone else here except me believe that the term "issues" is the laziest, sloppiest, most annoying piece of verbiage in the English Language?


A much greater problem is the overuse of quote marks.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: john9001 on May 23, 2007, 09:09:24 PM
whats "wrong" with "quote" marks? you have a "issue" with that?:)
Title: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: lasersailor184 on May 23, 2007, 09:17:08 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
And as long as I'm already complaining... what about "WE?"  
I hate to hear "WE" in a sentence like this one:  
"We need to yada yada yada yada."
That actually translates into "You" there.  


I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on this blurb.  I personally despise the use of the word "One" as a pronoun.  Anytime anyone uses it, I am a half second and the sound of a twig break away from strangling them.

It isn't the word that bothers me, but the sound and GOOFY ****ING FACE that anyone in the world makes when they do it.  Every person in this world becomes a giant sweetheart bag, even if just for a moment when they do it.


Watch.  Every single person makes a weird face anytime they use it.  They make the same weird face.  They all make the same face.  Just watch.  And soon, you'll hate it as much as I do.
Title: Re: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: JB88 on May 23, 2007, 09:18:35 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
A much greater problem is the overuse of quote marks.


"oh no, not again."

"rolls eyes"

":cool:"
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: megadud on May 23, 2007, 09:22:01 PM
"i have issues" "i'm tring to deal with them" " but i cant because they are deep like the ocean" "deep issues" "im stupid i know"
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 23, 2007, 09:33:43 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
whats "wrong" with "quote" marks? you have a "issue" with that?:)


The overuse of quote marks is the greatest single reason for the decline of western civilization.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: nirvana on May 23, 2007, 09:38:27 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The overuse of quote marks is the greatest single reason for the decline of western civilization.


What, though, about commas?  Would you, Holden McGroin, say that commas, as a punctuation mark and nothing more, have also led to the decline, AT LEAST of the western civilization, if not, the world?
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 23, 2007, 09:43:37 PM
The overuse of commas has been a contributor, but not to the degree of quotation marks.

Nobody does air commas.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: nirvana on May 23, 2007, 09:51:16 PM
Plenty of people do air commas, it's commonly called "flipping the bird".

While we're on the subject of punctuation and the downfall of western civilization....I was wondering if like....maybe like.....the excessive use of like elipses and stuff was like....you know....another contributing factor like maybe not as much as like....quotation marks but like on a smaller scale and....like stuff.

Maybe it's like that?  I don't know.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 23, 2007, 09:55:31 PM
Did you know there is a three key shortcut in MSWord for typing an elipps... ellipse... three dots?

I can never remember the key sequence (ALT+CTRL+period) so I take the long route and hit the decimal/period key three times.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: ROC on May 23, 2007, 10:01:17 PM
It all started when the babes wanted the guys to get in touch with their feminine side, and the wimps bought into it.

Think about it :)
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: nirvana on May 23, 2007, 10:02:11 PM
I didn't know that, I just smack the period key a few times and hope it works.  

Did you know if you are in MS word and type =rand() with a number between the parenthesis and then press enter it will generate "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." for however many times is in the parenthesis?

Stuffs crazy man!
Title: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: tedrbr on May 23, 2007, 10:26:26 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Does anyone else here except me believe that the term "issues" is the laziest, sloppiest, most annoying piece of verbiage in the English Language?
 

I thought "issues" was a PC catch all, since saying someone was out of their f****** mind, or crazy, or psychopathic, or an idiot, were all considered rude?  Words like "problems", "disaster", "cluster****",  SNAFU, BOHICA, are not proper for use in political circles; hence again we get the catch-all: "issues".

Just another "sound bite" term that gets bandied about.  Like "mistakes were made".... you never hear what these mistakes were, or who made them, or whats being done to fix these mistakes..... simply a media play on the Proles' pity and forgiveness so those who said it can get back to making more mistakes.
Title: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Angry Samoan on May 24, 2007, 01:17:12 AM
I agree texasmom.


I would like to add a phrase if I may.
It's used by someone wanting to sell something.

"To be honest ...blah spew blah blah"
or
IMHO

If you use it, your telling someone everything else you said was a lie.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Odee on May 24, 2007, 06:48:38 AM
This is like babyfying the dread "N Word"  Really now, how often have you heard them say in Gangsta Rap, "my n-word brother..blah-blah-earbleeding-blah"  They say the word, offensive as it is.. they say the word.

My issue with this is; Either use the word itself, or don't.  Babyfying it only worsens the offense by coddling those offended in the name of political correctness.  Personally, I detest the use of the word, and laugh at those that in one breath gasp, then turn around with the next breath and use it as everyday parlance.

*sorry for the highjack... back to the topic*
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Halo on May 24, 2007, 02:19:20 PM
No matter what you've done or how upset you are, don't forget the immortal shrink phrase:  "How do you feel about that?"
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: texasmom on May 24, 2007, 02:57:52 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Did you know there is a three key shortcut in MSWord for typing an elipps... ellipse... three dots?

I can never remember the key sequence (ALT+CTRL+period) so I take the long route and hit the decimal/period key three times.



I just tried it ~ it worked!
It takes a longer period of time to key in ctrl+alt+period than it would to just hit the period three times. How peculiar that they would make a shortcut that takes more time and effort than just hitting ...:)
Title: Re: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: texasmom on May 24, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on this blurb.  I personally despise the use of the word "One" as a pronoun.  Anytime anyone uses it, I am a half second and the sound of a twig break away from strangling them.

It isn't the word that bothers me, but the sound and GOOFY ****ING FACE that anyone in the world makes when they do it.  Every person in this world becomes a giant sweetheart bag, even if just for a moment when they do it.

Watch.  Every single person makes a weird face anytime they use it.  They make the same weird face.  They all make the same face.  Just watch.  And soon, you'll hate it as much as I do.


LOLOLOL~  I never noticed the face thing l, but I don't like 'One' used as a pronoun either.  I'll definitely watch for it though.:lol

Example: when a person wants to finger-point or blame-shift, but are too cowardly to come right out & make their accusation, they'll use 'One.'  Instead of coming right out and saying it, they'll use 'One' to change it to a generic thing, leaving you to determine if the accusation applies to you or not.  Then they're off the hook on not having to back it up, either (since they never actually addressed a specific person).
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: texasmom on May 24, 2007, 03:06:29 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Did you know if you are in MS word and type =rand() with a number between the parenthesis and then press enter it will generate "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog." for however many times is in the parenthesis?

Stuffs crazy man!


Thanks, that was kinda cool. I wonder what other little tidbits are out there.
Title: Re: complaining about "issues"
Post by: Hap on May 24, 2007, 03:08:30 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
Does anyone else here except me believe that the term "issues" is the laziest, sloppiest, most annoying piece of verbiage in the English Language?

Let's toss in this generic term which covers EVERYTHING so we don't have to articulate anything ever again.... "issues"
good grief  *rolling my eyes*


And as long as I'm already complaining... what about "WE?"  
I hate to hear "WE" in a sentence like this one:  
"We need to yada yada yada yada."
That actually translates into "You" there.  

If you mean you want someone to do something... just say "You..."  Don't make it sound liberally like you're actually going to help out in any fashion (because you know you're not)... just say "You."


I agree!  This ex-college English instructor dislikes sloppyness.

Say what you mean, and mean what you say.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: texasmom on May 24, 2007, 03:16:36 PM
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Originally posted by ROC
It all started when the babes wanted the guys to get in touch with their feminine side, and the wimps bought into it.

Think about it :)


I missed that part ~ I didn't pay attention to it at the beginning. By the time I gave it any attention, we were already at full blown 'issues' in every sentence (even in professional documents I've seen it used). But I guess I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.

I just know that I didn't marry a girly-man... and none of my sons are going to go that sensitive girly-man route either.  They better be honest & friendly; but dang-sure better be able to break a nose if it's called for without complaining that they have issues to work through.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: tedrbr on May 24, 2007, 06:53:23 PM
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Originally posted by texasmom
I just tried it ~ it worked!
It takes a longer period of time to key in ctrl+alt+period than it would to just hit the period three times. How peculiar that they would make a shortcut that takes more time and effort than just hitting ...:)


I could see a use when computers and particular software programs scan digital documents and are able to differentiate between a period and ellipse, in in fact there is a difference in the data.    Most programs should be able to tell the difference either way, but I can see this as a reason to create the function in the first place.
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: AKIron on May 24, 2007, 09:38:19 PM
quotes, commas, what about the justly vilified alt-f4?
Title: complaining about "issues"
Post by: vorticon on May 24, 2007, 10:00:28 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The overuse of quote marks is the greatest single reason for the decline of western civilization.



i thought that was  traced to the number of people who wear hats?





"

Example: when a person wants to finger-point or blame-shift, but are too cowardly to come right out & make their accusation"


any of the mincing about people seem to do when theres "issues"  but they dont want to offend anyone pisses me  off, and the tone they always seem to use makes it insulting to boot.