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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: culero on May 25, 2007, 06:34:52 PM
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11 year old Alabamy boy kills a 1,000+ pound hog. With a revolver :)
http://tinyurl.com/2bfmwg
"It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that
big." LOL!
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Sign that guy up with Special Ops.
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That's a huge hog. Im betting that monster must have a few gazillion "sighting" stories affixed to him!
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I'm betting its a fake. IIRC "hogzilla" was a hoax as well.
RTR
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Crud, I knew they would discover I dragged him out of the local wax museum.
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Ahhhh christ....I knew Rosie had quit the View, but I didn't think she needed to DIE for crying out loud...
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He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50-caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot. :eek:
NO WAY!
I say that pig is overmodeled!
Musta been a
C-HOG
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(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5968/gianthogpigcr0.jpg)
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Originally posted by eskimo2
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5968/gianthogpigcr0.jpg)
:eek:
someones going to find out if its possible to get sick of bacon.
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Impressive, but sad the poor hog had to endure three hours of slow death from inadequate caliber and marksmanship.
The boy reportedly was backed by guys with high power rifles. Rather like an African safari with bwana and guides and beaters.
They got a nice trophy and lots of meat, so it was a genuine hunt, but not a very accomplished one.
Seems to me if you have a weapon or a situation where you know a decent kill is questionable, you shouldn't take the shot.
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well now that my ex mother in law is out of the way :)
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
well now that my ex mother in law is out of the way :)
LMAO
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Gee, maybe you ought to show them how it's done then.
Originally posted by Halo
Impressive, but sad the poor hog had to endure three hours of slow death from inadequate caliber and marksmanship.
The boy reportedly was backed by guys with high power rifles. Rather like an African safari with bwana and guides and beaters.
They got a nice trophy and lots of meat, so it was a genuine hunt, but not a very accomplished one.
Seems to me if you have a weapon or a situation where you know a decent kill is questionable, you shouldn't take the shot.
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Originally posted by Halo
Impressive, but sad the poor hog had to endure three hours of slow death from inadequate caliber and marksmanship.
The boy reportedly was backed by guys with high power rifles. Rather like an African safari with bwana and guides and beaters.
They got a nice trophy and lots of meat, so it was a genuine hunt, but not a very accomplished one.
Seems to me if you have a weapon or a situation where you know a decent kill is questionable, you shouldn't take the shot.
It was probably NOT an inadequate caliber, although if it was a 500 S&W, it probably had a marginal bullet. Might have been a poor shot though. Both wild boar and feral hogs are like dinosaurs. It is extremely difficult to get a one shot kill, even with a high powered rifle. I've seen hogs shot through the chest at close range with a 30-06 live and run for over an hour, and cover 2-3 miles of ground. Most hogs are way late for their own funeral. And a hog that weighs over 1K# isn't going down quick and easy for anything short of MAYBE 50BMG. Hogs of that size are extremely rare, and in the game world probably rank right around African Safari class big game with regards to difficulty to kill. Most of those hunts don't end with one shot. And few people in the U.S. own African Safari class dangerous game weapons. A 1K# hog has the skin and bone structure of Cape Buffalo, Rhino, or Wildabeast.
Unless you get a really rare shot where you can put a bullet directly into the hog's ear, or into his neck AND snap his spine, the hog WILL run. Or at least try. When hunting hogs, if you cannot get the ear shot, you shoot for the shoulder. If you get a good hit in the shoulder with the right bullet, he's on the ground and you can finish him. Head shots often result in a failure to penetrate because of the shape of the hog's skull and the thickness of the bone. Hogs will run forever and 3 days with a lung shot to pulp and a hole in their heart.
You cannot count on getting the ear shot, and the thing is, hogs are out of control and the wildlife agencies are desperate to thin the herd, so they have spring season, and extend the fall/winter season. Personally, I carry a 44 Magnum with either hard cast lead or jacketed 300 grain bullets, clocked at 1300+ feet per second (not for the faint of heart, or the nimrods) AND my back up 45 Colt Ruger Blackhawk with the same basic load. I aim for the shoulder about 90% of the time. I shot a 300 pounder through the chest. ONCE. The exit wound was the size of a softball. He ran for over an hour.
Most people around here consider my 300 Winchester Magnum to be way too much gun for the area. Even that ain't really enough for a hog that size IF you DEMAND a one shot kill. People around here just don't have 458 Winchester Magnum rifles and the like. And those big guns are expensive to buy and feed as well. Unless you handoad, and 90% don't, even 45-70 or 444 Marlin aren't enough. And those are likely the biggest rounds to be found around here in any numbers. We have a couple of 45-70 lever guns in our arsenal, and they are $1K guns. WAY beyond the average hunter's means. I'm looking at a 50 Alaskan. My wife will probably use it on me if I buy it. Because it is really a bear gun (hence the name Alaskan, as in Kodiak and Grizzly), and we have only black bear around here (the 44 Magnum will take one reasonably easily). But I have hopes of a trip to Alaska to bear hunt.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Gee, maybe you ought to show them how it's done then.
Don't be too hard on him. He's got his heart in the right place, I just doubt he understands the type of game animal they were dealing with here.
Few besides hard core hunters would, and even then, most would get a grasp from either reading about or watching a hunt for that type of animal on tape. Hell, I've never hunted game that size, figuring it is on par with Cape Buffalo and such, as I typed above. I've hunted hog in GA and AL, and I've never seen one that big myself. And I intend to go back.
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holy smokes. i'd be wanting to climb a tree if i saw one like that in the woods here in Florida. i didn't know feral pigs could get that big...
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Hmmm...Wonder what the outcome would have been, had that hog charged that kid? Unless of course, he shot him from a tree stand.
I really don't think that anyone in the hunting party thought that they would run into a hog anywhere near that size. That's a monster.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Hmmm...Wonder what the outcome would have been, had that hog charged that kid? Unless of course, he shot him from a tree stand.
I really don't think that anyone in the hunting party thought that they would run into a hog anywhere near that size. That's a monster.
Most of them are well under 300#. No, none of us (I hunt in TN, GA, AL, NC, SC, and KY) expect to see them (hogs over 400# are very rare), but some of us are prepared. There's a reason I carry two guns, both with VERY hot loads, when I hunt hogs or bear on the ground. I have 6 rounds in the 44 Magnum (Dan Wesson) and 12 rounds in two speedloaders carried in the offside tiedown on my ******* Big Game shoulder holster, plus, I have the loaded 45 Colt Ruger Blackhawk in a high ride hip holster. The Ruger is single action and as such slow to load. But I can draw and empty it quickly, then go back to the big Dan Wesson and do up to two fast reloads. I've never needed both guns, either would likely do fine. But since we often hunt where there MIGHT be a big hog, and where there ARE 300#+ bears, I'll carry the second gun, at maybe 3-4 pounds, it's a small package for the peace of mind it provides. I carry the Dan Wesson in the ******* rig even when I rifle hunt. Always two guns.
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Big hog....probably a domestic gone feral.
A thousand pounds? Maybe, but I doubt it. The picture was staged to make it look bigger. The kid is squatting at least five yards behind the hog. His image is crystal clear while that of the animal is out of focus.
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I've killed a few 250 - 300 lb hogs. Taking them down clean with 1 shot is DANG tough. Now these are nice tame hogs in a 15x15 foot pen. Even then getting the right shot takes time, patience and a bit of luck.
Hogs have a big head, but a fairly small brain, so you draw an imaginary line from one eye to the opposite ear. Where those 2 lines cross is your aiming point for a head shot. But, if the pig in question raises or lowers his head as you shoot, chances are your going to miss the brain and just lodge a bullet in the bone of his skull. And of course that pig is not going to hold still so you can shoot it again, so now you have a very ticked off rapidly moving target.
Multiply that x 3 for hogzilla and your up to 300 mag's or elephant guns if you want it done right. They are simply lucky that the big sucker ran instead of charging the guns.
What was this one eating? The original Hogzilla was running around an area with several fish farming ponds. With fish food laying around in stacks for it to rummage through. Read virtually unlimited food supply.
So what was this porker munching on for it to get this big?
Its mother was almost surely domestic pig gone feral. Pigs go back to the wild quickly and easily, reverting easily to what they started out as. Long hair, tusks, and attitude are often seen in first generation feral pigs.
BTW the feral pig problem is becoming an ever bigger problem nationwide.
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Thanks, Virgil and Ghost, for enlightening perspective on the hunt and wild hogs. I respect hunts and hunters and the prey. Ancient ritual, often difficult to get quick clean kills in field conditions.
I grew up reading Frank Buck and remain grateful humans have developed weapons effective enough to climb to the top of the food chain and stay there.
On the magazine stands now is an interesting Special Collector's Edition of Best of Shooting and Guns & Ammo that includes stories of excellent guns that still proved inadequate in some circumstances, "When the Chips Are Down Big Guns Are Best ... For Game That Can Hit Back."
Have to give big beasts a lot of credit for their courage. Even outnumbered and facing firepower from another realm, they often fight to their last breath.
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Originally posted by RTR
I'm betting its a fake. IIRC "hogzilla" was a hoax as well.
RTR
"Hogzilla" was not a hoax.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Big hog....probably a domestic gone feral.
A thousand pounds? Maybe, but I doubt it. The picture was staged to make it look bigger. The kid is squatting at least five yards behind the hog. His image is crystal clear while that of the animal is out of focus.
we used to do that with barracudas. hang the fish maybe a four footer or so with the tail touching the deck. stand about a foot back then lean as far back as you can onto some support. the fish looks like a six plus footer.
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This has got to be the Best Memorial Day BBQ!!!! Other than at HTC!
You have it all here... Huge Frikken Pig, Young kids with guns, Parents with no teeth and Beer...
A spot of Heaven for all....
:aok
Mac
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Originally posted by storch
we used to do that with barracudas. hang the fish maybe a four footer or so with the tail touching the deck. stand about a foot back then lean as far back as you can onto some support. the fish looks like a six plus footer.
True enough, but the way I see it, he looks like he's actually leaning on the hog's back.
(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/pig.jpg)
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Originally posted by culero
True enough, but the way I see it, he looks like he's actually leaning on the hog's back.
(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/pig.jpg)
In the age of photoshop, believe nothing you see.
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Yeah look under the kids left arm, what is he resting it on? Certainly not the hog.
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Yeah look under the kids left arm, what is he resting it on? Certainly not the hog.
I believe that's his knee.
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virgil summed it up nicely..
Don't know if the story is real or not but.. if it is.. A 500 S&W can be less impressive with the wrong bullet. An expanding hollow point would not be the round I would want for that beast for instance.
Hard cast or FMJ bullets of more than normal weight would be best.
Your load for the 44 is pretty hot. I run 250 clsw at about 1200-1300 (depending on barrel length). I have killed a hog that was shot through with an ought six and was running around in circles chasing the rifle guys. The big cast slug stopped it with a chest shot. It was only about 200 lbs tho.
44 or bigger bullets are the size that you want already.. they don't need to expand.. you need the penetration on tough or big animals not expansion.
lazs
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The kid is several feet back from the Hog and if the camera was close to the hog to fill in the frame, it will make the hog look bigger than it really is.
Simply hold your right hand a foot away from your face and your left at arms length. Close one eye and see how big they are. Simple trick photography.
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Originally posted by Halo
Impressive, but sad the poor hog had to endure three hours of slow death from inadequate caliber and marksmanship. ...They got a nice trophy and lots of meat, so it was a genuine hunt, but not a very accomplished one.
Seems to me if you have a weapon or a situation where you know a decent kill is questionable, you shouldn't take the shot.
Yup... Pretty sad even for an eleven year old 'bama boy. Must be the new generation og 'gat shootas', with the horizontal aiming instead of proper sight picturing.
Hell, the kid had a scop one that .500 Lothar, for pete sake! You'd think dad woulda zeroed it in, or at least the kid been able to get an ear or spine shot.
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I am gonna have to check this one out. I have a few friends that live near that part of the state and I am only 1 hour and 40 minutes from where that sucker was killed. I haven't heard anything about it in the newspaper or television and usually any sort of large trophy animals that get taken near here are at least reported in the outdoors section of the Birmingham News. I also know the guy who is the outdoors editor for the paper and I will give him a call to see if he knew about this.
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I've seen big feral hogs in northern fl and southern ga the biggest I've seen I'll guess to be around 500lbs. they look like lowrider steer. a 500lb hog is impressive that hog might be 800lb. it's still a mighty nice trophy and should be mounted if I had bagged it, it would be.
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(http://www.monsterpig.com/pigbachoe.jpg)
(http://www.monsterpig.com/big%20pig3.jpg)
That's one big pig...needs a saddle, lol!
By the way, that pig is hanging from the front bucket of a tractor. They're having the head mounted...huge thing.
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Originally posted by storch
I've seen big feral hogs in northern fl and southern ga the biggest I've seen I'll guess to be around 500lbs. they look like lowrider steer. a 500lb hog is impressive that hog might be 800lb. it's still a mighty nice trophy and should be mounted if I had bagged it, it would be.
Ok, I'll ask.
Just where in the **** would your wife let you put such a thing???
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Ok, I'll ask.
Just where in the **** would your wife let you put such a thing???
I have a big family room but I have no trophys mounted in this home. the home was built in the 1950's and has eight foot cielings so even a modest elk is too much. our previous home had twenty two foot cielings so mounting trophys was fine.
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Originally posted by Warspawn
(http://www.monsterpig.com/pigbachoe.jpg)
(http://www.monsterpig.com/big%20pig3.jpg)
That's one big pig...needs a saddle, lol!
By the way, that pig is hanging from the front bucket of a tractor. They're having the head mounted...huge thing.
as an old trick photographer I can tell you they are standing back from the pig at least five feet. look at the snout and look at their feet. in the second photo look at the right hind leg and look at the left poser's knee on the ground.
those guys aren't even clever trick photographers.
if it were ten plus feet you would be seeing a tape measure nailed to it's snout and drawn to it's rump. that is a nice hog though.
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Given the distance they're standing behind the hog, and the distortion of size that gives in the picture, I'd guess the actual weight at between 500 and 600 pounds.
Tops.
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The hanging shot convinced me. I don't care what camera tricks you play with that one. Thats one BIG MOTHER PIG!
Would I have liked to see the tape measure nailed to snout and held to hoof, yes.
Do I need it to see that this is bigger than the normal 500 lb pig, sorry no.
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The hanging shot didn't convince me. Father and son are still several feet behind the hog. It's big, but it isn't THAT big.
It definitely isn't ten feet long.
Pretend you are the cameraman. You're holding the camera at eye level while standing upright. The hog's snout appears to be nearly three feet off the ground. Follow you're eye level line-of-sight to the hog and estimate it's actual length. Best guess on my part is that it is nearer six or seven feet in length.
I grew up around outdoorsmen in my mom's family who were first class liars. I take all such "evidence" with a grain of salt.
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IF it was really that big they would have had him sitting on top of it to prove it. Basicly, its different photo angles to give the impression its bigger than it really is.
I did the same thing in college in the first couple of photography classes I took, just to show how different angles could change the picture dramatically.
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You know what is amazing to me is the number of photographic analysts that this BBS/game has in it. I did not know that the NSA, CIA, DIA and almost any other worldwide intelligence agency had trained so many of you guys so you could do photo analysis of hog pictures and other crazy things.
For goodness sake if this thing is a hoax it will be brought out eventually. If it is real it will be proven eventually and so far I haven't heard anything back from my contacts who would know about this here in the Birmingham area. This animal was allegedly killed about an hour and forty minutes from here and so far nothing in any news paper in the region proves or disproves the story.
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I have a Bachelor's degree inPhotography from Louisiana Tech Unviversity. We learned how to do trick photography in the first 2 classes we did. Not that hard to make a 16 floor building look smaller than a person, so it would be even easier with a kid and a pig.
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Besides if it was that big then why aren't we seeing it on the national news? That would put an end to the debate for sure wouldn't it?
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It's not on the national news because it's a hoax...and a pretty obvious one at that.
I've seen enough of these types of photos to fill up the bed of a pickup truck.
I'm also familiar with the sizes of various types of farm equipment. The tire on that front-loader is about the same distance from the camera as the hog. The front tire, visible in the lower right of the picture, is no more than three feet in height. You can see that the tire is several feet in front of the feet of the two liars in the background.
The hog can't be much over 6 feet in length, snout to rump.
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Originally posted by Shuckins
It's not on the national news because it's a hoax...and a pretty obvious one at that.
I've seen enough of these types of photos to fill up the bed of a pickup truck.
I'm also familiar with the sizes of various types of farm equipment. The tire on that front-loader is about the same distance from the camera as the hog. The front tire, visible in the lower right of the picture, is no more than three feet in height. You can see that the tire is several feet in front of the feet of the two liars in the background.
The hog can't be much over 6 feet in length, snout to rump.
Fox is gullible.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275524,00.html
Who knew?
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Only problem is that its the same report thats being shuffled around on the internet. Wheres the live video of a national reporter looking at the real thing?
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(http://www.monsterpig.com/tractorphoto.jpg)
Doesn't look like a 10 foot pig in that picture...
It's still bigger than I'd want to mess with. Since I've successfully missed everything I've ever shot at with a pistol in the woods I'm going to stick with my 3" magnum 12 gauge copper solid sabot rounds...:O
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Originally posted by Reschke
You know what is amazing to me is the number of photographic analysts that this BBS/game has in it. I did not know that the NSA, CIA, DIA and almost any other worldwide intelligence agency had trained so many of you guys so you could do photo analysis of hog pictures and other crazy things.
CSI:Grapevine
:D
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source for the photo of a 900 kg pig (http://www.stunning-stuff.com/read-weird-news-stories/45.html?ci=4)
(http://www.stunning-stuff.com/images/articles/45/image_1.gif)
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Originally posted by culero
True enough, but the way I see it, he looks like he's actually leaning on the hog's back.
(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/pig.jpg)
You can see him resting on his knee... not the hog.
Regardless... that's a big pig. :O
EDIT... oops didn't see others already made the observation... sorry
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Originally posted by Sandman
Fox is gullible.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,275524,00.html
Who knew?
So is NPR . . .
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10518737
They have done a couple radio interviews, with both the kid and the taxidermist who is going to mount the head. He said today that the neck measured 64 inches in circumference if memory serves.
Nation
11-Year-Old Bags Enormous Wild Hog
All Things Considered, May 29, 2007 · Florida has "Hog Kong." Georgia has "Hogzilla." Now, the state of Alabama has its own monster pig, measuring 9-foot-4 from snout to tail and weighing more than 1,000 pounds.
The wild hog was shot earlier this month by an 11-year-old boy at a hunting preserve near Oxford, Ala. Its massive head is now in the freezer at Jerry's Taxidermy in Oxford.
Robert Siegel talks with owner Jerry Cunningham about the prospects of mounting the big pig, and how its size compares to other wild hogs he's seen. Cunningham says the animals generally top the scale near 500 pounds and that this was, indeed, a monster pig.
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OK this just in from a co-worker of mine who lives in that area. The animal in question was reported to have been seen in the area where this hunting lodge is located for the last 10 years or so and it was always getting bigger and bigger. He knows the taxidermist that is doing the mount and when I get back from my business trips in 13 days we are going to drive over one afternoon and take a look at it and I will see if I can get a couple of photos of the head for the photoanalysts here.
Here is a photo from the hunting lodges website.
(http://www.lostcreekplantation.com/Images/JamesonStonehog.jpg)
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And the FDB's mourn the loss of one of their own...
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Originally posted by Reschke
OK this just in from a co-worker of mine who lives in that area. The animal in question was reported to have been seen in the area where this hunting lodge is located for the last 10 years or so and it was always getting bigger and bigger. He knows the taxidermist that is doing the mount and when I get back from my business trips in 13 days we are going to drive over one afternoon and take a look at it and I will see if I can get a couple of photos of the head for the photoanalysts here.
Here is a photo from the hunting lodges website.
(http://www.lostcreekplantation.com/Images/JamesonStonehog.jpg)
That picture actually has the kid kneeling right behind the hog which gives a better perspective of how big it is [which is smaller than the first pic shown].
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It's still...uhh...big :O
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Yup, its a big pig but not as big as they were trying to make it appear to be.
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ok here we go. for argument's sake say the boy's head measures five inches in width. that pig will measure out to about eight feet four inches in length from snout to rump or the ten feet plus from snout to the tip of the tail. that might be a seven hundred pound pig. that is very impressive for a feral hog.
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Originally posted by culero
True enough, but the way I see it, he looks like he's actually leaning on the hog's back.
(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/pig.jpg)
However, if you look at the picture, the ground is fairly level. Then look at where the boy is relative to the hog and the height of the hog's body. Either the boy is kneeling on about a 3 or 4 foot tall box behind the hog, or it's photoshopped . . .
Either way - get the BBQ sauce!
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,276216,00.html
Is it a humongous hog, a monster mistake, or a huge hoax?
That's the question being asked Tuesday about a stunning photo distributed last Friday by the Associated Press that purports to show an 11-year-old Alabama boy standing behind a half-ton wild hog his father said he bagged with a pistol.
The boy, Jamison Stone, looks tiny in the photo as he stands behind his prize pig, which his father claims measures 9 feet 4 inches, and weighs 1,051 pounds.
"It feels really good," Jamison said last week in a telephone interview with The Associated Press. "It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that big."
Jamison's father, Mike Stone, said the prize porker was hauled off on a truck to the Clay County Farmers Exchange in Lineville, where Jeff Kinder said they used his scale, recently calibrated, to weigh the hog, according to the Associated Press and a story published in the Anniston, Ala. Star newspaper.
Kinder's scale measures only to the nearest 10, but Stone said it balanced one notch past the 1,050-pound mark.
"It probably weighed 1,060 pounds. We were just afraid to change it once the story was out," he said.
But the photo — published on hundreds of Web sites, including FOXNews.com, and emailed millions of times — now is under attack from blogs and Web sites that claim to be able to prove that the boy and his father hammed it up for the photo, and that truth sometimes isn't in the eye of the beholder.
Jamison's father, Mike Stone, claims that the positioning in all six photographs displayed on their Web site MonsterPig.com, was unplanned, accidental, coincidental.
"These are authentic pictures," Stone told the Web site StinkyJournalism.com, which claims it can prove the colossol claim isn't kosher. "They have not been altered," Stone said.
Still, StinkyJournalism.com enlisted the help of a retired New York University physicist, Richard Brandt, who offers what he says is a "technical analysis" of the Stone family's claim.
The site also claims to have evidence that other photos on the family Web site were doctored to make the feral hog look bigger than life.
Jerry Cunningham, of Jerry’s Taxidermy in Oxford, Ala., who says he's mounting the head and skull, thinks otherwise.
“It’s probably the end of June before we’re through with it,” he said. "They’re about as twice as big as the normal pig. Five-hundred pounds is big, giant. Most of them that come in to be mounted are between 150 and 250."
Cunningham said the animal measured 54 inches around the head, 74 inches around the shoulders and 11 inches from the eyes to the end of its snout.
"It's huge," he said. "It's just the biggest thing I've ever seen."
Mike Stone, meanwhile, is having sausage made from the rest of the animal.
"We'll probably get 500 to 700 pounds," he told the Associated Press.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Boar over 200 pounds wouldn't taste good at all. I like the 100 lbs porkers in my fridge.
Anyone ever shot a 500 s&w before? I have and it makes the 44 mag look like a pop gun. We were shooting bowling pins and a 500 will make a clean hole all the way threw a pin.
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Yeah, I shot a 500 S&W. Not at all impressed by the ugly ill handling POS. For the price, give me a Dan Wesson 445 SuperMag (I know, not as powerful), or a Freedom Arms 454 Casull (again, not as powerful). Both shoot better due to better design. If I want a 50 caliber handgun, it'll be a Linebaugh or a Bowen, either a 500 Linebaugh, or a 500 Linebaugh Maximum (if I can find the frame).
The 500 S&W kicks because it has the bore too far above the grip. That's why it's as ugly as homemade sin, too.
And my Dan Wesson 44 Magnum with hard cast or jacketed 300 grain bullets will go all the way through a bowling pin. Or a 6x6 piece of cured oak.
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Ya the 500 is a pos if you ask me..
We shoot bowling pins about once a month. I have never witness a bullet make a clean hole in a free standing pin but the 500 will do it. The .44 will eat a pin but even with man killer hand loads will not do the damage that the 500 does.
Did you see the father and son on tv last night? For a 3 hour stalk they must have been carted out with the pig our it was one slow bellybutton pig they were tracking.
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This just in...
"Fred" was farm raised...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18989526/?GT1=10056
still a monster hog in my book tho :O
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Fred's saga won't be complete until immortalized on The Simpsons or King of the Hill.
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150 acres high fenced in my book is a canned hunt.
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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/02/monster.pig.ap/index.html
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A canned hunt is when the damned thing is either tied up, or in a cage, and you just walk up to it and shoot it. Killing a hand reared animal is in no way hunting. Fat kid with a pistol? Nah...
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Originally posted by Yeager
A canned hunt is when the damned thing is either tied up, or in a cage, and you just walk up to it and shoot it. Killing a hand reared animal is in no way hunting. Fat kid with a pistol? Nah...
My two uncles once bought a lion from a circus so they could let it go on their ranch and hunt it down. They got all ready to shoot it as we opened the crate and it just stayed inside. My uncles decided it was not a good way to hunt and we bought some lion chow and let it loose in the corn feild.