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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on May 26, 2007, 01:29:15 AM
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Well, we were flying tonight in the MA, and as the time of the month rolls around, we started the monthly "Hillary 08" and "no guns" troll.
I was told by many in the MA that I was "unAmerican" and even had several PM death threats. Normally I laugh those off, as in reality, any one making a death threat over an ingame PM system really is sad, and more than likely lives in a trailer in pow-dunk no where with out the access to funds to be able to fly to Colorado Springs to kill me. Either way, we still contiuned with the troll and witnessed a lot of cussing, just because I was expressing support for Hillary in '08. We also played the age old troll of "stop the illegal war". After being called an "UnAmerican" several times, it got me to thinking... what is an "UnAmerican"? Is it someone that does not agree with your beliefs? Are people that blind now-a-days that they feel anyone that speaks differently from them is "UnAmerican"? In truth, I really no longer no where I stand on the war in Iraq, or Bush as a president.... I often wonder whether we have dug such a whole in this country morally that anything we do in the future is going to be mure and mostly wrong. Apparently the society of close minded, throat hooked idiots in the MA think so. I was chat suspended because of these individuals, even though several oof them used explicit profanity towards my views in the troll...
So I ask this, "What is"UnAmerican" and why is it if you offer up an opposing view to a majority that you get labeled that way...?
(btw "trailer trash death threat man", I work pretty much every day at COS with the only hangars that have black and white checkerboard roofs ( there are three linked together), if you can actually read, come to the hangars and ask for Derek. It is on the NW west side of the airport. You can't miss it off Powers.)
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bodhi, just play the game and stop talking to the morons. Squelch em.
If on the other hand, you feel you need to log on and have a political discussion with potential morons in game, well....you know where that gets you. To starting a thread like this.
My advice, saddle up in a cartoon plane and go flying about in cartoon land, killing and laughing all the while. As soon as someone gets mouthy, squelch em.
Rinse and repeat, that is after all, what we do here :)
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Originally posted by Yeager
bodhi, just play the game and stop talking to the morons. Squelch em.
If on the other hand, you feel you need to log on and have a political discussion with potential morons in game, well....you know where that gets you. To starting a thread like this.
My advice, saddle up in a cartoon plane and go flying about in cartoon land, killing and laughing all the while. As soon as someone gets mouthy, squelch em.
Rinse and repeat, that is after all, what we do here :)
Yes, but abuse of the "report chat" feature is the issue I am bringing up. Not once did I use profanity, even though it was used many times in response to my statements. That to me preturbs me more than anything else. That abuse is what makes me angry over this. I get to endure a long weekend without being able to chat with friends and my squad because a bunch of close minded imbeciles abused an ingame feature to further their own plotical agenda. That is wrong.
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call up HTC and raise living hell with em. If they blow you off, tell them to go **** themselves and quit. There is no excuse for your getting unfairly reprimanded like that.
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the troll was funny the responders sheer idiots. yet another example of a good feature being abused.
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Bodhi...
:aok
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Maybe they were reporting you for being an irritating text troll in a flightsim gaming arena.
Lots of stuff that has nothing to do with profanity can get you squelched or banned.
If your texting needs aren't being fulfilled in the HTC game arenas, I suggest AOL chat for your future trolling. Or get one of those consoles, because I heard they're really fun for texting all sorts of interesting people who have lots of fascinating things to chat about. ICQ is also good for chat, and you could even start up an anti-gun hillary 08 myspace page. I bet that you wouldn't get squelched there. Some kid told me that even those newfangled mobile phones can be used for chat, so I'm sure you could be a great troll with one of those.
Of course, then you wouldn't get to troll the forums whining about getting squelched for trolling chat in... what's that place... oh yea, the main arena for a combat flightsim game. But you could try to pass yourself off as a pedophile and then you could complain about getting your myspace page deleted and complain about getting arrested for being a pedophile... doesn't that sound like more fun than trolling some boring old flightsim chat?
:huh
Not that I think death threats are cool or anything, but sheesh, what did you expect? You tossed out some bait and got some good bites, including a moderator who took your whole rod and reel. You're like the guy who jumps into a wild animal cage and whines about getting bit, double-whines about getting tossed out of the zoo, triple whines about getting fined, and quadruple whines about getting a courtroom conviction for causing a problem. As my younger sister so eloquently puts it, "Well, Duh!".
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With all due respect, you admit you were out trolling, i.e. trying to get a rise out of people. So, it worked -- and they "fought back" the only effective way they could.
If you don't want to be muted, don't go out looking to stir people up. Seems pretty simple to me.
As for the "unamerican" claim, falsely accusing your country of a crime could be considered such. "Disagreeing" is not the issue -- "Denigrating" is.
My $0.02.
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Originally posted by eagl
Maybe they were reporting you for being an irritating text troll in a flightsim gaming arena.
Lots of stuff that has nothing to do with profanity can get you squelched or banned.
If your texting needs aren't being fulfilled in the HTC game arenas, I suggest AOL chat for your future trolling. Or get one of those consoles, because I heard they're really fun for texting all sorts of interesting people who have lots of fascinating things to chat about. ICQ is also good for chat, and you could even start up an anti-gun hillary 08 myspace page. I bet that you wouldn't get squelched there. Some kid told me that even those newfangled mobile phones can be used for chat, so I'm sure you could be a great troll with one of those.
Of course, then you wouldn't get to troll the forums whining about getting squelched for trolling chat in... what's that place... oh yea, the main arena for a combat flightsim game. But you could try to pass yourself off as a pedophile and then you could complain about getting your myspace page deleted and complain about getting arrested for being a pedophile... doesn't that sound like more fun than trolling some boring old flightsim chat?
:huh
Not that I think death threats are cool or anything, but sheesh, what did you expect? You tossed out some bait and got some good bites, including a moderator who took your whole rod and reel. You're like the guy who jumps into a wild animal cage and whines about getting bit, double-whines about getting tossed out of the zoo, triple whines about getting fined, and quadruple whines about getting a courtroom conviction for causing a problem. As my younger sister so eloquently puts it, "Well, Duh!".
Nailed it.
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What rpm said.
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i'm on bodhi's side :aok
People troll all the time, the troll is not the issue, i have seen people troll for hours on end and no one does anything about it. Just so happens some mod didn't agree with bodhi and squelched him because of a different view point, that is wrong.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Either way, we still contiuned with the troll and witnessed a lot of cussing, just because I was expressing support for Hillary in '08. We also played the age old troll of "stop the illegal war". After being called an "UnAmerican" several times, it got me to thinking... what is an "UnAmerican"?
Obviously being allowed freedom of speech.
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I'm with eagl on this one, putting out a troll like that in a main arena can distract from the gaming experience for a lot of people. it isnt the time or place.
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Originally posted by Furball
Obviously being allowed freedom of speech.
On a side note, I'd like to applaud Furball here for completely and utterly misinterpreting the Constitution. Way to go sir.
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Originally posted by Dago
I'm with eagl on this one, putting out a troll like that in a main arena can distract from the gaming experience for a lot of people. it isnt the time or place.
:lol any troll can distract the gaming experience. What if someone cares about ford trucks as much as someone cares about politics and i say fords suck dodge rules. Same thing. It isn't bodhi's fault people care so much they give death threats and curse because of something someone they never met typed. did you get all that? basically your point is void. All sort of trolls are thrown and people react differently to different ones. Bodhi didn't deserve to get muted because someones viewpoint was different.
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like the bartender said "take it outside", the MA is no place for that.
some of us actually try to play this game.
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Originally posted by E25280
With all due respect, ...If you don't want to be muted, don't go out looking to stir people up. Seems pretty simple to me.
As for the "unamerican" claim, falsely accusing your country of a crime could be considered such. "Disagreeing" is not the issue -- "Denigrating" is.
My $0.02.
Well said. :aok
Keep poking that tiger in his den and you will eventually become dinner.
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Originally posted by megadud
:lol any troll can distract the gaming experience. What if someone cares about ford trucks as much as someone cares about politics and i say fords suck dodge rules. Same thing. It isn't bodhi's fault people care so much they give death threats and curse because of something someone they never met typed. did you get all that? basically your point is void. All sort of trolls are thrown and people react differently to different ones. Bodhi didn't deserve to get muted because someones viewpoint was different.
There are forums such as this one to post your silly little trolls. Doesn't need to be posted in a gaming arena. Now argue about the right to fart in an expensive restaurant.
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Originally posted by megadud
What if someone cares about ford trucks as much as someone cares about politics and i say fords suck dodge rules.
Then I would have to say go &%&% ^% #@!%^ you goat sniffer.
:rofl
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I was not muted by a mod. Several people abused the "report chat" feature that is in place to report people for cussing and abuse violations. Whether people agree with what I was saying on 200 is irelevant. There is a /.squelch feature to stop having to hear what I say. That is the bottom line with my disappointment in the feature and the abuse it endures. Just because several people did not agree with what one is saying, they abuse a feature (report chat) instead of using the intended feature (/.squelch) the way they should.
I never cussed or was abusive to anyone at all during that entire time. Many were both abusive and one in particular was out right violent. Thats the opposite of how that feature should work.
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Whaaaaaa I pisssed off people and they snapped back at me....
:cry
STFU and get a Life.
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Whaaaaaa I pisssed off people and they snapped back at me....
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STFU and get a Life.
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LOL, about what I would expect from someone of your calibre...
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Originally posted by majic
On a side note, I'd like to applaud Furball here for completely and utterly misinterpreting the Constitution. Way to go sir.
Whats the constitution?
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Originally posted by Bodhi
LOL, about what I would expect from someone of your calibre...
Just the facts Ma'am....
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
Just the facts Ma'am....
Mac
irony is always funny.
Actually as much as I might troll in here I think the in game text messaging is for game play. I try to stay away from controvertial issues on 200.
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In all seriousness now, i have been on the receiving end of a squeaker squadron abusing the .report feature to mute me. Every time i shot down a certain player, i would suddenly get muted.
I reported them abusing it and i had my mute taken off.
I dont think the .report function is right, i think that the report thing is good, but not when it puts on an auto mute when a certain level is reached.
I dont know how it works, but the .report thing should send a PM to all online moderators for them to review what has been said no matter what arena they are in, they should be the ones to decide whether someone deserves to be muted, not the community.
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I was bored once and reported myself to see if it worked...had to call Skuzzy the next morning..
Stupid move.
Mac
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Well Bodhi you shouldnt be abused. Unless of course you are a TEEN:)
But to think that you are the minority is ludicrous.
The people in the game and on the boards are definately mostly rightwing leaning.
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Sorry Bodhi I had to squelch you and a few of your opponents last night. It just got too much. I see no need of a report though. You were trolling, they were biting and when the hook hurt they had nothing else to do but report you I guess.
As far as un-American, I'd say anything that goes against tradition, well more than that, goes angainst tradition and really makes the other side know that you are. Anything thats seen as weak. Anything that shows disrespect to generations before us, and their beliefs and traditions/customs.
Example: Someone with an opposing view that may not get that big of a rise out of other people: " Im not a fan of John Wayne, I dont care for apple pie, and I prefer football over baseball."
Example of someone deemed un-American by many may say: " John Wayne was a closet case, and baseball is played by uniformed neo natseez
while the sheep watch...eating apple pie."
Something like that. Most of the people who strike the right chord, know they are doing so. And then cry victim afterward.
When passionate about your views, expect the opposition to be just as passionate about theirs. But there is no reason to report anyone in the game over it.
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Well said FiLTH! :aok Can I get some pointers on the 40-E sometime?
Originally posted by megadud
i'm on bodhi's side :aok
People troll all the time, the troll is not the issue, i have seen people troll for hours on end and no one does anything about it. Just so happens some mod didn't agree with bodhi and squelched him because of a different view point, that is wrong.
Poor choice in sides, IMO.
Now really MDud, did the person squelching your troll buddy tell you that was why he was squelched, or are you working on hear-say? If it is Hear-say, then shame on you... but if it was just because the other party didn't care for the bait bohdi used, then shame on the squelcher.
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1941...Pear Harbor
2001...World trade Center
You figure out the rest.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Well, we were flying tonight in the MA, and as the time of the month rolls around, we started the monthly "Hillary 08" and "no guns" troll.
I was told by many in the MA that I was "unAmerican" and even had several PM death threats. Normally I laugh those off, as in reality, any one making a death threat over an ingame PM system really is sad, and more than likely lives in a trailer in pow-dunk no where with out the access to funds to be able to fly to Colorado Springs to kill me. Either way, we still contiuned with the troll and witnessed a lot of cussing, just because I was expressing support for Hillary in '08. We also played the age old troll of "stop the illegal war". After being called an "UnAmerican" several times, it got me to thinking... what is an "UnAmerican"? Is it someone that does not agree with your beliefs? Are people that blind now-a-days that they feel anyone that speaks differently from them is "UnAmerican"? In truth, I really no longer no where I stand on the war in Iraq, or Bush as a president.... I often wonder whether we have dug such a whole in this country morally that anything we do in the future is going to be mure and mostly wrong. Apparently the society of close minded, throat hooked idiots in the MA think so. I was chat suspended because of these individuals, even though several oof them used explicit profanity towards my views in the troll...
So I ask this, "What is"UnAmerican" and why is it if you offer up an opposing view to a majority that you get labeled that way...?
(btw "trailer trash death threat man", I work pretty much every day at COS with the only hangars that have black and white checkerboard roofs ( there are three linked together), if you can actually read, come to the hangars and ask for Derek. It is on the NW west side of the airport. You can't miss it off Powers.)
You are. Stop whining... :D
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Im not a fan of John Wayne,
Yeah, when it came out he was gay I was shocked. But I looked back and realized it was obvious
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QUOTE]Originally posted by storch
the troll was funny the responders sheer idiots. yet another example of a good feature being abused. [/QUOTE]
The mass gang banging squelch feature needs to be taken outa the reach of chickenchit, DMFing squids that squelched and sent "Death Threats "to Bodhi.... and others in the past....
IMO it should only be available to the appointed Mods, giving some creditability to that trigger feature being used.......
as it is now , it gets abused .... It's a no win deal for HTC crew either , they try to setup good features and along comes spinless DMF's and screw it up through abuse ..... So along comes Monday morning and HTC crew comes to work, and has to waste time dealing with watermelon like this, instead of constructive work and improvements on AcesHigh ....
CHECKERS....
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Originally posted by Odee
Well said FiLTH! :aok Can I get some pointers on the 40-E sometime?
Poor choice in sides, IMO.
Now really MDud, did the person squelching your troll buddy tell you that was why he was squelched, or are you working on hear-say? If it is Hear-say, then shame on you... but if it was just because the other party didn't care for the bait bohdi used, then shame on the squelcher.
hearsay but i still got his back :aok
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UnAMerican?
Im not even GOnna start discussing my Views On how this COuntry Handles its Political Business... Might get me Banned...
Lets just say Our current Government is a Democratically Communist State...
Enough Said.
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I dont think I'd agree,
Once Bodhi called anyone who disagreed with him "Close minded A**holes on CH200 I found it quite nice after I reported him and he was banned the next day. Great feature HTC keep up the great work.:aok
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Originally posted by Lunger
I dont think I'd agree,
Once Bodhi called anyone who disagreed with him "Close minded A**holes on CH200 /B]
Well seeings that that statement was an outright lie as I did not use profanity in anyway during that entire time. Unlike 90% of the idiots that swallowed that hook, line and sinker.
It's ironic in that all I did was make some statements that a few close minded imbeciles could not agree with. They threw a tirade and cussed and all. I never reported any of them. I just ignored the ones that were amateur retort hacks, and cleanly blasted the ones that thought they could retort and exposed them for their own close minded biased selves.
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Originally posted by Lunger
I dont think I'd agree,
Once Bodhi called anyone who disagreed with him "Close minded A**holes on CH200 I found it quite nice after I reported him and he was banned the next day. Great feature HTC keep up the great work.:aok
he didn't call anyone an Ahole when I was on and he logged off before I did.
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One could say that labeling as unAmerican is itself an unAmerican thing to do.
Except for the British, being British isn't very American.
Can we try to keep the contentious issues to the O'Club and out of the game itself? There's a point were we all just have to shut up and play. Please don't try to bait people into arguments in game.
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69Hawk, while I agree on part of that, I only started my troll after someone else was on a tirade about how great Bush was. Sure, tit for tat, but it was funny at the time and I still laugh at it. Like I have said before though, abuse of the "report chat" feature was all that caused my muting. If everyone involved had the gall to stand by the right thing, this would not have been an issue. Squelch is the option for those that do not want thear what someone else sayd.
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Bodhi, I'll often join you in hooking as many as possible. :aok
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Originally posted by 68Hawk
...Except for the British, being British isn't very American.
For which we Brits give thanks every day...
:aok ;)