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Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: TwinBoom on May 28, 2007, 09:55:01 AM
A brief clip of a rare Rolls Royce Kestrel engined Hawker Nimrod filmed at Duxford in May 07
Nimrod (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfIJbVzVr7g)
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Furball on May 28, 2007, 10:00:40 AM
The Nimrod/Fury are beautiful aircraft, especially in 30's markings with the colourful squadron markings.

You can really see similarity to the Hurricane.

(http://www.clarkindustries.on.ca/images/props/Nimrod.jpg)(http://homepages.tesco.net/~mrogers/CBFS/HurrinFlight)
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: TwinBoom on May 28, 2007, 10:05:55 AM
yes very close
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Airscrew on May 29, 2007, 02:44:46 PM
I'm thinking I read somewhere that the original protype for the Hurricane was a biplane.  When the specifications called for monoplane then Hawker reworked it
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: B3YT on May 29, 2007, 03:42:26 PM
nope hurri was always a monoplane. hawker produced the first brit monoplane during WWI . It was always designed as a monplaned fighter with 8 guns
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Warspawn on May 29, 2007, 03:50:40 PM
Neat!

I was watching the history channel this weekend and they were discussing the Hurricane designer's VTOL aircraft.  He won a huge competition for a Mach 2 VTOL plane, but the UK squashed it with budget cuts after it began..

They did however, allow the development of a smaller, less expensive aircraft.  That is of course, the ever-popular Harrier!
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: B3YT on May 29, 2007, 04:02:49 PM
yeah the TSR2 was also dropped during that cut. man how cool that bomber was. Mach 2 , super manoverable , HUGE payload and terrain following radar (acka the Torbado GR.1 ) so low level vally runs are safe :)

 In fact the USNAF use a hawker design ; the Gosh hawk is a hawker
(now BAC ) hawk trainner ( light fighter ground support )
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Furball on May 29, 2007, 05:24:30 PM
Sir Sidney Camm is possibly the greatest aircraft designer that ever lived.  He even had some input on what became the Panavia Tornado.

The Hurricane was originally named the Fury Monoplane in a very early stage of development.

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/aero/aircraft/hawker_mkiic.htm
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Furball on May 29, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
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Originally posted by B3YT
nope hurri was always a monoplane. hawker produced the first brit monoplane during WWI . It was always designed as a monplaned fighter with 8 guns


That is not true, Hawker were not about then and Britain had produced monoplanes before the first world war.  They were deemed inferior to biplanes so were not used.  One of the best designs of the first world war was the Bristol M1C which was doing ~130+ mph in 1915/16.  Pretty much the fastest thing in the air at that time, but the bias against monoplanes kept it out of service in any significant numbers.



(http://lionels.orpheusweb.co.uk/RFCEgypt/Tanksand/MonoPl.jpeg)
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: rogerdee on May 30, 2007, 12:10:20 PM
furball your proberly right but what about barns wallice,he was also a great aircraft designer and did a lot of other great designs for other things.
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: B3YT on May 30, 2007, 12:57:04 PM
hmm i thought that hawker was a subsitutary of bristol during WWI . But i'm probly wrong
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Furball on May 30, 2007, 01:02:24 PM
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Originally posted by rogerdee
furball your proberly right but what about barns wallice,he was also a great aircraft designer and did a lot of other great designs for other things.


He wasnt really an aircraft designer on the scale of Camm.  He was more of a genius who came up with solutions to existing problems (geodetic structure on the Wellington for strength, Tallboy bomb to finally sink the Tirpitz, Bouncing bomb to defeat the dams).

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Originally posted by B3YT
hmm i thought that hawker was a subsitutary of bristol during WWI . But i'm probly wrong


IIRC Hawker was formed from Sopwith, then later became Hawker Siddely, then British Aerospace.
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: KG45 on May 30, 2007, 06:03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Furball
Sir Sidney Camm is possibly the greatest aircraft designer that ever lived.  
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everybody know Kurt Tank is the greatest designer of all time.

he even designed Chuck Norris. :)
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Angus on June 01, 2007, 10:19:26 AM
It would also have been nice to see what Mitchell would have come up with, had he lived....
Title: Hawker Nimrod
Post by: Puck on June 01, 2007, 11:31:45 AM
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Originally posted by KG45
everybody know Kurt Tank is the greatest designer of all time.

he even designed Chuck Norris. :)


Oh, PLEASE!  Go check your references.  Kelly Johnson designed Chuck Norris.

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