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Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 01:51:59 AM
I got a nVidia 6200 about two months ago. It worked great untill a few weeks ago ever since then it looks like this. Some times my computer freezes up on the AH login screen. I'v reinstalled the drivers that came with the card a few times. I cant find anymore online. Some one said it might be over heating but I never let it get over 42 degrees. I took this screen shot then exited and looked at the GPU temperature, but it was still in the green. I still have my old nVidia geforce 4 and have to play AH and other games with it. Can anyone help me?



(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/GPU.jpg)

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/AH.jpg)
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: RTR on May 29, 2007, 02:09:02 AM
wow TK, that does look like a driver issue. That card isn't really a great card for gaming at any rate.

Not sure what to tell you....have you tried the 61.77 drivers (they are old drivers for the 5XXX series cards, but  they seem to be tickling my pea sized cranium for some reason)?

Is that a laptop by chance?

RTR
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 02:27:58 AM
No its a old Dell 4800. That screen shot it the wrost its been.

I just tryed to get on AH and the "blue screen of death" poped up saying something about "nv4_disp". I think its a driver but I dont know what it does. I uninstalled all the drivers and then installed them again but its the same.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Brooke on May 29, 2007, 04:23:27 AM
Here's what I would do in your place.

I'd download the latest drivers from nVidia (pick "Download Drivers" from their menu, select "Graphics driver", then "GeForce 6 series", then the OS you run):

http://www.nvidia.com

I have always used the latest nVidia drivers (from nVidia) on my Dell machines with OEM nVidia cards, and that has always worked well for me.  I have never used some crappy, out-of-date OEM version of the drivers.

Before you install the new drivers, go into "Add/Remove programs" and remove the current nVidia drivers.

Then I'd reboot and install the new drivers you just downloaded, then reboot again.

If that doesn't fix it, can you tell us if you have done any overclocking of your graphics card?
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 06:15:37 AM
Ok Im downloading the drivers from nvidia website. 40.5MB so Ill get back to you in a few hours to tell you if it worked.:aok
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: sidneylopsides on May 29, 2007, 06:30:09 AM
Texture corruption like that is normal down to graphics RAM failure or drivers.
Does it do it on anything else?
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 07:09:51 AM
It looks like that on most games.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: NHawk on May 29, 2007, 07:19:09 AM
If you've unlocked the piplines in that card, or overclocked it put it back to stock values.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: sidneylopsides on May 29, 2007, 07:34:56 AM
I'd say you have a faulty RAM chip on the card then.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 07:58:27 AM
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Originally posted by NHawk
If you've unlocked the piplines in that card, or overclocked it put it back to stock values.



I have no clue what you just said.:huh
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Krusty on May 29, 2007, 09:54:35 AM
Then don't sweat it.

The 6200 is a low-end card. Does yours have a fan on it, or just a heatsink?

You can try opening the case and placing a fan near the side, or putting an internal fan near the heatsink to test if it really is overheating (with a buggy temp sensor) or if it's something else.

I think that reinstalling drivers should fix it if it's a driver issue.

If not, the card is defective and you might look into getting it replaced (if under warranty)

My $0.02
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 10:41:09 AM
Yes it has a little fan on it. I bought it off ebay for $60 so its not a big deal if its broke. Just rather see if I can fix it before buying another one.:aok


40MB on dialup takes forever but I only have about 30mins to go to see if its just the drivers.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 11:27:31 AM
Well the new drivers didnt help. Guess Ill just have to buy a new card. Thanks for the help guys.:aok
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Krusty on May 29, 2007, 11:31:41 AM
Did you get it from a store on e-bay? Or was it in a factory-sealed box?

After 2 months that's a manufacturer's defect. You might try contacting customer support on the nvidia USA webpage (if you can find a 1-800 number or something) and see if they have any suggestions, and/or if they will replace it.

If it was used, you're out of luck, as you have no idea how badly the person before you OCed it or abused it. If it was new you have some options.


Even if you get a stronger card, you're still out $60. Might as well see about getting your money's worth
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 11:44:30 AM
I got it from someone that was selling a few of them. It was still in its plastic wrap when I got it. My old card still runs AH pretty good I jsut have to tone down the detail abit. I might just save up and get a better one.


I found the box it came in. It is the nvidia 6200 box with the chick on it. I bought it from "King butter Fung" "www.butterstore.com". I will look some more stuff up I do remember I said it was new so I will email him and see what I can do.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: hubsonfire on May 29, 2007, 12:24:53 PM
Did you uninstall the old drivers before you installed updated drivers? FWIW, the shiniest newest drivers typically don't do anything for the older cards, except keep you busy for hours trying to download them.

I used the 81.98 drivers until I replaced my 6200 with no issues at all. What version were you using?
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 29, 2007, 12:29:56 PM
The disk that came with it has 9.2 the ones I just downloaded are 93.71. Yes I deleted the drivers in the add/remove programs.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 30, 2007, 02:11:31 AM
I think I found the problem. I was screwing around in the 3D settings and saw this. I turned it off and opened AH and it was clean, no little blobs everywhere. Thanks for all your help guys. :aok






(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/fixed.jpg)
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Brooke on May 30, 2007, 02:24:00 AM
I think that still points to a card problem, although this gets around it.  Aces High doesn't turn on the antialiasing -- if it is set to "application controlled" it still isn't used as far as I can tell.  Anyway, glad it's now working for you.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 30, 2007, 03:16:33 AM
The ones that say "application controlled" is setup like that because I have about 10 games that I play, and don't have time to set them up one by one right now. Those are just the default settings that I just setup before takeing the pic. I'll go into the AcesHigh setup and turn it off if it does nothing in AH.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Krusty on May 30, 2007, 08:56:06 AM
Ugh.. 90 series Detonators... (*shudder*)

Anyways, good to know! Glad it's working again for you.
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Larry on May 30, 2007, 12:35:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
Ugh.. 90 series Detonators... (*shudder*)


huh?:huh
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: hubsonfire on May 30, 2007, 01:11:00 PM
hulk not good with 90 series driver. hulk just want to smash!
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Brooke on May 31, 2007, 12:37:42 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
The ones that say "application controlled" is setup like that because I have about 10 games that I play, and don't have time to set them up one by one right now. Those are just the default settings that I just setup before takeing the pic. I'll go into the AcesHigh setup and turn it off if it does nothing in AH.


It's not that it does nothing in Aces High, it's just that Aces High doesn't turn it on even if you have it set to "application controlled".  (If you turn on antialiasing, it does have an affect in Aces High.  I like to use it when I'm on systems with enough graphics power.)
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Krusty on May 31, 2007, 09:32:30 AM
You shouldn't use FSAA on a Ge6200 at all, I'm sorry to say.

It's like entering a Pinto into the Daytona 500 and expecting it to keep up :)
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Tigger29 on June 05, 2007, 02:43:39 PM
If you look closely, he has the one just below antialiasing selected.  Unfortunately it looks blacked out on the screen shot, but if you look at the VERY BOTTOM where he has circled it in red, it is "Comformant Texture Clamping" that he just turned off.

Good luck and congrats!
Title: nVidia 6200 help
Post by: Krusty on June 05, 2007, 02:47:59 PM
Yes, I was aware of that. It was unrelated. :aok