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Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: WilldCrd on May 29, 2007, 08:26:53 PM
Well actually cleaning out my parents garage I cam across some of my grandparents stuff.
Inside was was a commendation to my grandfather signed by pres. Gerald ford and another by General Dwight D. Eisenhower for his exemplary service.

i asked my mother about it and she related to me that he was a master srgt and Ikes driver during WWII. and served Pres. Ford as well.
I never knew him as he died before I was born. He was my mothers father and i knew he served I didnt know he was one of ikes drivers. I also found several letters to my grandmother and mother from when he was overseas.
turns out he knew Ike, Kennedy, nixon and Ford. And served as a driver and part of their security.
M mother said she never said anything because for so long when she was a kid she was told to never tell and not make a big deal out of it. Anyways i thought id share this. i think its pretty cool.


EDIT: i also found a fully operational apple 2+ with all the addon stuff. I booted it up and it still works, although kinda slow lol. My father swears its worth something and wont let me throw it out.......maybe in 20-30 years:O
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Bodhi on May 29, 2007, 08:46:33 PM
Thats pretty cool WildCrd.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Flit on May 29, 2007, 08:57:12 PM
That's cool !
 I recently found out that my Uncle was in the CIA, and apparently involved in a lot of stuff during the Vietnam war.
 Enough stuff that when his daughter wanted to go to Russia in the late 70's, the the State Department would'nt give her a visa.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Boroda on May 29, 2007, 09:04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Flit
That's cool !
 I recently found out that my Uncle was in the CIA, and apparently involved in a lot of stuff during the Vietnam war.
 Enough stuff that when his daughter wanted to go to Russia in the late 70's, the the State Department would'nt give her a visa.


DoS didn't give a US citizen a visa to go outside US into a Democratic country!?

And this people bait us for "keeping people inside the fence". I bet your Cousin didn't get university education payed by State and never worked with classified materials, or did she?...
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: VOR on May 29, 2007, 09:15:38 PM
Democratic country...LOL.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Bodhi on May 29, 2007, 09:15:57 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
DoS didn't give a US citizen a visa to go outside US into a Democratic country!?


thanks for the laugh!  :rofl
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Flit on May 29, 2007, 09:23:21 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
DoS didn't give a US citizen a visa to go outside US into a Democratic country!?

And this people bait us for "keeping people inside the fence". I bet your Cousin didn't get university education payed by State and never worked with classified materials, or did she?...

 :D  You really don't have a clue, do you ?
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 29, 2007, 09:33:05 PM
Not the garage but after I moved into my house there was stuff in the attic I was going through.I found an american flag with 48 Stars
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: VOR on May 29, 2007, 10:51:15 PM
Wow Dred, that's a cool find.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Rolex on May 29, 2007, 11:46:04 PM
The State Department doesn't issue visas to US citizens. The embassy of the country being traveled to issues a visa.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Jackal1 on May 30, 2007, 03:42:26 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
DoS didn't give a US citizen a visa to go outside US into a Democratic country!?


You ever thought of becoming a comedian?

:rofl
Title: Re: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Geary420 on May 30, 2007, 03:45:52 AM
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Originally posted by WilldCrd

EDIT: i also found a fully operational apple 2+ with all the addon stuff. I booted it up and it still works, although kinda slow lol. My father swears its worth something and wont let me throw it out.......maybe in 20-30 years:O


I would play Oregon Trail for days on end.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Boroda on May 30, 2007, 04:21:34 AM
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Originally posted by VOR
Democratic country...LOL.


Well, Eastern block countries were called "countries of people's democracy".

I find Flit's post very interesting. My Father had highest possible clearance and noone stopped me from visiting the US in 1989 because of that.

Such small details add some flavour to propaganda screaming I usually meet here, like several posts above.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: DiabloTX on May 30, 2007, 04:39:56 AM
Wow.

:eek:
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Boroda on May 30, 2007, 05:43:40 AM
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Originally posted by Rolex
The State Department doesn't issue visas to US citizens. The embassy of the country being traveled to issues a visa.


I think he meant issuing a passport so the poor girl could leave the country.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Flit on May 30, 2007, 09:27:22 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
I think he meant issuing a passport so the poor girl could leave the country.

 No, She went to Europe instead.
 They just would'nt let her go to Russia.
 I still have a  Springfield '03 with  hand carved dragons on the stock that my Uncle recieved as a gift when he was ( from what I hear) station chief in Taiwan.
 BTW Boroda, if her father is working for and gets paid by the goverment, wherer do you think the money for school came from ?
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Boroda on May 30, 2007, 09:51:42 AM
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Originally posted by Flit
No, She went to Europe instead.
 They just would'nt let her go to Russia.


Can you please give more details?

How could they prevent her from going to USSR? She could get a Soviet visa in any Soviet consulate in Europe.

What you say sounds like a Western idea of how things worked in USSR. Soviet people were restricted travelling abroad, but this restriction were (and still are) connected with classified material access. We still have two passports, one - internal, in Cyrillic, and another - "foreign", in Soviet times it was in Russian and French, now in Russian and English. In Soviet times foreign passports were kept in "visa and permits department", I had to give mine back after I came back in 1989. Getting a new RF foreign passport a year ago I had to wait for a check to approve that I don't posess any "top secret" or "special importance" information. Fortunately I never had anything above "secret" clearance.

Again: my Father was a scientific director of a big military research institute, had top level clearance, but I didn't have any problems leaving USSR. I was sincerely surprised by the fact that US side knew more about me then my own parents ;) Your Uncle definetly earned his money ;)
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Boroda on May 30, 2007, 09:56:42 AM
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Originally posted by Flit
BTW Boroda, if her father is working for and gets paid by the goverment, wherer do you think the money for school came from ?


In USSR we had all education for free, you just had to pass exams and win the competition, State invested millions in every good specialist, so it wasn't a good investment policy to spend money on people who will emigrate and then work for "potential enemy". It's just one of the reasons for "keeping people inside". And for some people it was quite easy to emigrate. In Australia I have met a Ukrainian Jew who spent his vacation (!!!) in Australia in 1976 and then emigrated in 1977. His Father already lived there so he said it was quite easy, no problems. Compare it to horror-stories like that idiotic "Moscow on Hudson" movie.
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: john9001 on May 30, 2007, 12:17:19 PM
yes, and the Berlin wall was only for traffic control.:rolleyes:
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Phaser11 on May 30, 2007, 12:19:39 PM
Yep,
 I was cleaning out mine and found all these old Visa's.

hehehe:rofl
Title: Things you find Cleaning your Garage
Post by: Flit on May 31, 2007, 07:09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Can you please give more details?

How could they prevent her from going to USSR? She could get a Soviet visa in any Soviet consulate in Europe.

What you say sounds like a Western idea of how things worked in USSR. Soviet people were restricted travelling abroad, but this restriction were (and still are) connected with classified material access. We still have two passports, one - internal, in Cyrillic, and another - "foreign", in Soviet times it was in Russian and French, now in Russian and English. In Soviet times foreign passports were kept in "visa and permits department", I had to give mine back after I came back in 1989. Getting a new RF foreign passport a year ago I had to wait for a check to approve that I don't posess any "top secret" or "special importance" information. Fortunately I never had anything above "secret" clearance.

Again: my Father was a scientific director of a big military research institute, had top level clearance, but I didn't have any problems leaving USSR. I was sincerely surprised by the fact that US side knew more about me then my own parents ;) Your Uncle definetly earned his money ;)

 I wish I could give more details, but I can't, as I just don't know any.
 Even now , at 84 years of age, he still won't talk about what he did except in a very general way.
 I'm not even sure if it was the late 70's or the early 70's, but I can only assume that "they" did not want to take a chance on him being compromised.