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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: daddog on May 29, 2007, 10:55:31 PM
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Flat Tops in Navy Blue 1943
American Aircraft
F4U-1 (CV8, CV22, CV25, CV27)
F4F (CV8, CV22, CV25, CV27)
SBD (CV8, CV22, CV25, CV27)
TBM (CV8, CV22, CV25, CV27)
P-40E (A5, A9, A37, A40)
P-38G (A5, A9, A37, A40)
Japanese Aircraft
A6M5 (CV28, CV29 & A10, A11, A12, A30)
B5N2 (CV28, CV29)
D3A (CV28, CV29)
Ki-61 (A10, A11, A12, A30)
Arena Settings
Slot Terrain
Killshooter - on
Friendly collisions - off
Fuel burn – 1.0
Visibility - full
Radar – approximately 30 miles
Object down time – 1 hour
Base capture: 20 troops
Ack - .5
I will post a map of the area tomorrow (Wed) night so you all will know the general area of the fight. The above setup maybe subject to some minor changes, but for the most part what you see above will be it. I will set it up late Thursday night.
:cool:
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:aok
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Looks great Daddog!
Just a suggestion for the land based Japanese. Maybe adding the A6M2 for a KI-43 type sub. Again, just a suggestion. Thanks for coming up with the scenario.:aok
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*gets life vest ready :D
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I thought about the A6M2, but I did not think many would use it. :) If some of you think you would, I will add it. :)
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After looking closer I see you have the A6M5 land based as well. I didn't notice this before, I thought the only land based Japanese fighter you had was the Ki-61. You're probably correct, nobody would fly the A6M2, if the a6M5 was available. :aok
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Originally posted by Shifty
After looking closer I see you have the A6M5 land based as well. I didn't notice this before, I thought the only land based Japanese fighter you had was the Ki-61. You're probably correct, nobody would fly the A6M2, if the a6M5 was available. :aok
Bzzzt!
I'm sorry, that is NOT the correct answer!
- oldman (real samurai fly M2s)
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Originally posted by Oldman731
- oldman (real samurai fly M2s)
Yes they do... For a little while.;)
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Bzzzt!
I'm sorry, that is NOT the correct answer!
- oldman (real samurai fly M2s)
OM always flys the crapest planes in a setup. I think he does it so he can have an excuse for sucking so badly.:rofl
J/K OM I love shooting down your Hurri1s and 202s:p
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38G? Check
40E? Check
Ki61? Check
I'll be a happy camper next week. :)
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Originally posted by Soulyss
38G? Check
40E? Check
Ki61? Check
I'll be a happy camper next week. :)
38G is all I need :)
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Only thing I could hope for in that set up is a F6F off the CV.
Whatever I end up flying, I'll be the one cruising around at 3K.
:)
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Originally posted by Soulyss
Only thing I could hope for in that set up is a F6F off the CV.
Whatever I end up flying, I'll be the one cruising around at 3K.
:)
Actually I'm not real sure if any F4U1s were operating off CV's in 1943. Maybe VF-17. If we had the F6F-3, it and the F4F would be the CV birds, and the F4Us from land bases. Then again it's easy to get overly anal about any setup. this one pretty sweet the way it is.
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If you allow Soulyss to fly 38s, I'm not showing up..
Well unless I'm flying Allied and he's protecting my scrawny arse. :)
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Originally posted by TheBug
If you allow Soulyss to fly 38s, I'm not showing up..
Well unless I'm flying Allied and he's protecting my scrawny arse. :)
lol, wish I could have stuck around longer last night. Was a good brawl we all had going on there. As for next week my personal preference/opinion is that the F6F provides a more interesting match up than the F4U does, as it is closer in performance I think. (N1K vs. F6F is one of the best in the game I think). That being said this looks like a pretty solid setup, I expect some good fights, and I expect to get slaughtered if/when I get bounced @ 3k by high zekes. :)
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Originally posted by Soulyss
lol, wish I could have stuck around longer last night. Was a good brawl we all had going on there. As for next week my personal preference/opinion is that the F6F provides a more interesting match up than the F4U does, as it is closer in performance I think. (N1K vs. F6F is one of the best in the game I think). That being said this looks like a pretty solid setup, I expect some good fights, and I expect to get slaughtered if/when I get bounced @ 3k by high zekes. :)
Nothing wrong with 3K. It's the place to be :)
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never said there was anything wrong with getting slaughtered by high zekes @ 3K. :)
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Gents,
Here is the general area of the fights. Also the general locations of the IJN and American CV’s.
(http://www.332nd.org/dogs/daddog/Flatstrat.jpg)
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Why no F6's? Just curious. :cool:
Any chance they could be added to the mix?
Later,
KayBay
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With the information I have the F6F did not come out till 44. This is a 43 setup. :)
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Originally posted by KayBayRay
Why no F6's? Just curious. :cool:
Any chance they could be added to the mix?
Later,
KayBay
The AH F6, is the F6F-5 a 1944 version. F4F's were still common on USN Flatops in 43. Hopefully the F6F-3 will make the stable one of these years, along with some other badly needed Japanese planes for historical setups. The big money is in the MA though, so I'm not holding my breath.:)
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Originally posted by Shifty
The AH F6, is the F6F-5 a 1944 version. F4F's were still common on USN Flatops in 43. Hopefully the F6F-3 will make the stable one of these years, along with some other badly needed Japanese planes for historical setups. The big money is in the MA though, so I'm not holding my breath.:)
Heh, they're funny over there, still arguing over whether the arena split was good or bad.
I so love the AvA.
- oldman
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Yep it's like they're arguing over the color of the lipstick they want to put on the pig.;)
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Heh, they're funny over there, still arguing over whether the arena split was good or bad.
I so love the AvA.
- oldman
Indeed :aok
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F6F-5 doesn't really over that much over the F6F-3 in terms of Air to Air performance, they added water injection and the roll rate is improved somewhat but I'm not sure if it was the degrees per second that was increased or the stick forces required to deflect. (not sure how much of an improvement it made, I'll have to check when I get home)
While important I don't think it would through things off too much. The F6F-3 was already faster than the opponents it faced, and even with the spring tabs I the roll rate isn't the best out there.
More concerning, and I consider the strongest argument for using the F4U-1 instead of the F6F-5 is the ordanence capability of the -5 Hellcat.
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Any excuse to take up my beloved P-40E.
I'll be shooting down a few of you tomorrow night.
See ya,
Toonces
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Originally posted by Shifty
Yep it's like they're arguing over the color of the lipstick they want to put on the pig.;)
Storch wears make-up? That's disturbing.
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Is that stink bait your tossing out? Storch is no bottom feeder. I'd classify him as more of an aggressive game fish. I'd switch to a top water lure. Besides it's more fun to see the actual strike than it is to just watch a cork sink. :)
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I'm thinking he's pretty hungry..
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Gents since the 1st is tomorrow (Friday) it might be better if I set this up Saturday morning early. Apparently the first of the month causes problems due to the arena's resets and I would have to set it up all over again on Saturday anyway. I hate doing things twice when you don't need to.
I am checking with Fork on what I can do. At this point I am planning on setting it up early Saturday morning. About 9 AM Eastern (6 AM my time).
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:aok
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I think I'll sit it out another week. the AvA is just unappealling, these unimaginative planesets will not do.
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For the time frame it looks about as good of setup as you can make with the AH planeset. I'm looking forward to flying the A6M5, and the F4U1 both.
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I'm just a bit curious, not upset, not complaining, just curious.
Even though I took a few months off, I still payed attention to the setups, and while I may have overlooked it, I don't seem to recall having seen the F4U-1A featured in a planeset, even when the F4U-1D was.
Is there a particular reason it does not seem to get included in the Mid War setups ? Date of introduction to Service ?? Lack of Service on the CV's of the time ?? It was strictly used by the Marines from Land Bases ??
I know I could google all of that info. I'm just curious why It seems to get left out.
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Gents since the 1st is tomorrow (Friday) it might be better if I set this up Saturday morning early. Apparently the first of the month causes problems due to the arena's resets and I would have to set it up all over again on Saturday anyway. I hate doing things twice when you don't need to.
I am checking with Fork on what I can do. At this point I am planning on setting it up early Saturday morning. About 9 AM Eastern (6 AM my time).
has the AvsA arena been setup properly for this week yet?
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Yes, TC, the setup has been done and is currently functional.
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Jaekart I left it out because this is a 1943 setup. So I used what planes we have in the HTC hanger. Not a lot of choices, but I think this is a pretty fair match up. Ki-61 does well. Several were landing kills in them tonight.
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Man alive, how much fun was yesterday/last night in AvA?!
I had an absolute blast with one brief exception which I won't mention again online.
The zero, though, seems quite outclassed by the U.S. rides in this setup.
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I'm enjoying flying the Zero. Just got to stay alive long enough get your break, then exploit it. Good fun last night.:aok
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Originally posted by Shifty
Is that stink bait your tossing out? Storch is no bottom feeder. I'd classify him as more of an aggressive game fish. I'd switch to a top water lure. Besides it's more fun to see the actual strike than it is to just watch a cork sink. :)
This Cork does not sink......break into a million pieces maybe, but I float!