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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Phil on May 30, 2007, 12:38:53 AM
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Gentlemen
Been at it for over 8mths.
M'not a SCORE player but do sometimes look at the board/roster and it helps me to see why I was outclassed/outskilled... The enemy pilot has a damn good fighter score. Ah yes, sometimes that score doesn't mean much but it does give you a good idea on the pilot history....
I consider myself an average pilot and I am at the point where I can give the ACES a good fight. Not often I come out on top but when I find out who shot me, I'm pretty content with the outcome anyway.
Shot down is a good tool for me. I have tendency to "SALUTE" the pilot with a positive comment like: "Good deflection shot ! Salute" or "Good scrap! I almost had ya in stall ! SALUTE"
Don't want to mention names but I do have a list of BAD ACES(sore losers)
They simply won't admit that they had a close call !!!! :rofl
Then the "name calling" starts !:rofl YOU DWEEB !!!
Then the "bragging" kicks in ! YOU WERE NEVER ON MY SIX !
A good pilot will admit and salute his defeated pilot ! Right ?
I would be flattered when a pilot asks or salutes with a positive comment!
I would offer him time and tips telling him what he did wrong;)
Yes there a some of you outhere who did take me aside and engaged in a constructive positive conversation !:aok
A word of advice for you TOP GUNS outhere.
The new players are pouring in and they are rats in a barrell to make you look good. Before you start being smart with your comments on the "ALL" chanel. Just remember, years/months ago YOU WERE THAT NEW PLAYER !
You WERE THE DWEEB ! THE ROOKIE ! YOU HAVE DONE THE MISTAKES YOU JUST WITNESSED ! YOU HAVE FLOWN INTO THE DECK ! YOU HAVE BOMBED YOU'RE OWN CITY ! BEEN THERE DONE THAT !
Sometimes I see top ranking fighter scores and when I see the comments raging out, it simply TARNISHES your name/image. It simply demonstrate the lack of maturity :confused:
Anyway, I guess there's all kind of players outhere and we can't control anyone !
I'm still enjoying the game and I'm satisfied with my improvements !
ps. You bad mouth top gun aces, one day I'll be at your level(skills) and will make you shut up ! Like they say: " I will hand you your BUTT in a platter !"
Until next scrap !
SALUTE !
Phil
OPP7755
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Dont let it get to you. The best thing you can do to a blowhard is ignore him. They hate that almost as much as losin! :)
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Dont let it get to you. The best thing you can do to a blowhard is ignore him. They hate that almost as much as losin! :)
Yep, that's about it. They're belittling others to make themselves feel better. Once they know they're talking to themselves, they stop.
This is a game, and for the most part, a fun one. However, like all things that you enjoy in life, it also attracts assclowns, and you just have to get used to ignoring them, or else they become a distraction.
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The competitive spirit is very important in this game, much like it is in our capitalistic society; **** talking, ego and a healthy dose of selfishness come with the territory.
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Hehehe..I tell my wife, ya know..Im a much better loser than I am a winner. She says I know..believe I know.
WHenever we get together with friends and we play a game..be it horseshoes, volleyball,cards...and I win...look out! They are gonna know it! I just do it to get a rise out of em tho :P
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Agree with Dano. Generally you will improve further and quicker if you are a bad loser/determined, because it gives you the motivation to better yourself, and that is true with any walk of life.
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heh, he said, "maturity", heh
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"Ubber ace- I am the best there is, im the baddest mutah' #^$% of all time..."
*Bullet hit sounds*....*engine quits*...*sound of wind*...KABOOOM!
"Ubber ace- I cant die, im one of the best there is..im the baddest mutah $^%& of all time."
Rinse and repeat till the ego gets to much to stand, then lash out at someone.
When you feal more insecure, just remember...
"Ubber ace- I am the best there is, im the baddest mutah' #^$% of all time..."
All the reason i need to pitty such pilots.
Ego's to big for the cockpit, worth the laugh tho.
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hey phil, the top most echelons of the MA fighter rank charts are usualy filled with score potatos and wannabes.
go to the DA or H2H and you will find 100% better pilots with 1000% better attitudes.
S!
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Most of the good (read old) virutal pilots don't spend much time on 200. This includes salutes. I personally return salutes.
Most of the older pilots know exactly what happened in the fight that led to its conclusion. Speaking for myself, win or lose, I feel what happened in the fight rests squarely on my shoulders. Knowing the "why and how" means I don't need to spend alot of time discussing it. If I get a kill then that part is over and done with. I've already forgotten about it and moved on to the next fight. If I lose a fight or die because of inattention to SA then I kick myself and grab another drink or p break while I climb out of a field to do battle again. Again that doesn't require alot of chatter on 200.
I don't really discuss the mokes on priv/200 whining about why I killed them so I won't do that here. While I said I return salutes above, I don't normally give alot of them since I'm usually gabbing non-stop on squad vox and it was just another kill.
I find confirmation that you are doing better is accomplished when you shoot the guy down. Not almost. I had a guy last night that was in a Spit 8 and I was in a 190D. I slowed into a rolling scissors from his 6 and he was able to turn inside of me inside 2 rolls using the vertical. The fight was absolutely on the deck. He got a few rounds into me at the end of the second roll. I already knew I shouldn't have gotten into the fight that slow and fully expected the fight to end at the bottom of the next rolling scissors. It did when he pancaked into the water. I didn't. No discussion came from either of us. We continued to fly through the night. I'm sure he kicked himself for pancaking just as I would have kicked myself for getting into that fight with him, had I lost.
Hope this helps.
Ren
The Damned
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There are some huge egos in this game, but just ignore em. I reply to salutes and send them out (when i get shot down in a nice fight) when im not too busy.
Just keep in mind that if someone does not return your salutes it can be because they are busy fighting, the text buffer moves too fast and they dont see it, or they may just not look at the buffer.
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MUST KILL THE UBER.....MUST KILL THE UBER...MUST KILL THE UBER.....:t
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Ya just ignore them.... or squelch em...Im sure I get Big Headed sometimes But thats just my Competitive Nature..If I get Annoying Just Squelch me :D
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I personally dont give out salutes as much as others do...some people actually abuse it...Saluting for everything..not the case with me...I'll return it if I get one..If I dont It may be a number of reasons WHy..Im busy..I didnt see it...Or I didnt like how I was killed TO then Get a Salute....
For Example...
If Vulched I wont Salute Back
If you Ganged me I won Salute BAck
If you Cherried me I wont Salute BAck
If you Ran For 2 sectors then turned around when i broke off and then HO'ed me I wont Salute BAck..
If Im in a bad mood I Might Salute BAck....
As ya can see Im not big on Cartoon World Salutes....Not mY thing
If Im engaged In a 1v1 fight and I lose I WILL salute you...:aok
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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
hey phil, the top most echelons of the MA fighter rank charts are usualy filled with score potatos and wannabes.
go to the DA or H2H and you will find 100% better pilots with 1000% better attitudes.
S!
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If Vulched I wont Salute Back
If you Ganged me I won Salute BAck
If you Cherried me I wont Salute BAck
If you Ran For 2 sectors then turned around when i broke off and then HO'ed me I wont Salute BAck..
Man LAWS!:D :D
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Generally, because they are wannabe's with loud mouths to begin with.
And because they are loud and obnoxious and in your face, it's harder to notice the guys that have class in all the "noise".
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A good pilot will admit and salute his defeated pilot ! Right ?
Not necessarily - I don't salute a pilot I've defeated. Too many people are touchy, and some construe a Salute after being shot down as "Ha-ha I got you." Since you can never tell, I just don't.
(In another sim I played for a long time, the dot command to send was ".s", and when I first started playing AH I'd accidentally salute when I meant to pm people, which is how I know for sure that some don't take it kindly.)
If it was a good fight (and I can spare the time and attention!), I'll private text message a compliment. But if I send a ".s", it's only in response to the downed pilot's ".s".
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In my very first week of AH, I was guilty of what I now know is a classic newb maneuver - I upped and flew a whole sector and HOed the first plane I saw, which turned out to be Shane. You should have seen his rant. :)
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The truly great sticks are almost never vocal. They simply don't have to be, they've been there and done that and yes they do remember.
Its the wannabe's & the fragile ego's that are mouthy on 200 when they lose.
They can't accept that THEY did something wrong, so they need someone to "blame" things on. If your still flying and they are dieing guess what, no matter what they say. You won.
So treat Channel 200 as what it is, the cheapest live comedy show you will ever see. Its open mic night at Aces High, everyone gets to say his bit. Its a laugh a minute and worth what you pay for the game all in itself. :)
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If I get killed it's only my fault.
Crappy ACM, lack of SA, accepting a HO, flying into an enemy horde or just upping at a bad day.
For some people, it's always someone else' fault.
And if they are running ot of arguments... well, there is always HTC who "should really fix (collisions, FM, guns lethality or whatever)" ;)
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Originally posted by Lusche
If I get killed it's only my fault.
Crappy ACM, lack of SA, accepting a HO, flying into an enemy horde or just upping at a bad day.
For some people, it's always someone else' fault.
And if they are running ot of arguments... well, there is always HTC who "should really fix (collisions, FM, guns lethality or whatever)" ;)
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Originally posted by Furball
Agree with Dano. Generally you will improve further and quicker if you are a bad loser/determined, because it gives you the motivation to better yourself, and that is true with any walk of life.
There are alternative views.
Bad losers are making excuses, rather than learning from their errors. Possibly it makes them feel better about themselves, but it hardly spurs improvement.
I agree with Phil's point that it's important to remember that the new guy you shot is (usually) trying hard, and benefits from encouragement, rather that taunting.
I except from the foregoing those who vulch and or gang.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Bad losers are making excuses, rather than learning from their errors. Possibly it makes them feel better about themselves, but it hardly spurs improvement.
Agree 100%
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
If I get a kill then that part is over and done with. I've already forgotten about it and moved on to the next fight. If I lose a fight or die because of inattention to SA then I kick myself and grab another drink or p break while I climb out of a field to do battle again.
I agree with Ren, especially this part. I also agree that being competitive will make you better and I am very competitive, but in this game I am not competing against other players I am competing against myself to be better every time I play. I am a very bad loser, but when I lose I am not mad at the other player I am mad that I did something stupid to lose the fight. It is misplaced anger to aim it at the other player in this game, if they shoot you down they are doing what they are supposed to do.
The guys that do complain after you shoot them down, send them a salute anyway and move on to the next fight. They are not worth stressing over.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
The truly great sticks are almost never vocal.
Absolutely. Brings to mind a squaddie, KITE777. He was always a good sport about winning or losing, and didn't say much. He was a very good stick and it was entertaining to watch him blaze through the bad guys like a knife through butter. He unfortunately hasn't played at all since HTC changed the arena layout.
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Originally posted by Grits
I agree with Ren, especially this part. I also agree that being competitive will make you better and I am very competitive, but in this game I am not competing against other players I am competing against myself to be better every time I play. I am a very bad loser, but when I lose I am not mad at the other player I am mad that I did something stupid to lose the fight. It is misplaced anger to aim it at the other player in this game, if they shoot you down they are doing what they are supposed to do.
The guys that do complain after you shoot them down, send them a salute anyway and move on to the next fight. They are not worth stressing over.
Well said. Probably accounts for most of the rants.
Now...if we could just get some GOOD sticks in here to get their side of it! :P
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Originally posted by Phil
Gentlemen
Been at it for over 8mths.
Well, if you think that high ranking players can actually hold their own 1 vs 1, you have long ways to go before reaching average :p
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I normally ignore the text buffer but I do catch it every once in a while. Most times if someone whines at me on 200 I send them a thx or ty acknowleding that I heard the whine but taking it in a complimentary way. That usually elicits a further response which I ignore.
I do send 's if I think I've just had a fun fight, win or lose and will return one if I see it, win or lose.
That said I rarely see a whine against me on 200 (maybe once a month if that) and I've only ever been PM'd once. It surpises me because, while I spend plenty of time fighting "straight up"; honest and honerably, I also do all the "bad" things to people if it's to my advantage, I HO, vulch, cherry-pick, drag guys into ack, etc., etc., etc.
Because I rarely see whines I remember most of them and therefor was surprised to read the following:
Originally posted by DamnedRen
Speaking for myself, win or lose, I feel what happened in the fight rests squarely on my shoulders. Knowing the "why and how" means I don't need to spend alot of time discussing it. If I get a kill then that part is over and done with. I've already forgotten about it and moved on to the next fight. If I lose a fight or die because of inattention to SA then I kick myself and grab another drink or p break while I climb out of a field to do battle again. Again that doesn't require alot of chatter on 200.
This obviously wasn't the case a few months ago when you flew straight at me, Spit vs Spit, lost the HO and went on a 200 tirade for the next 30 minutes. It was the second most amount of 200 abuse against me that I've seen in all my time playung this game. Not that I care but please don't come here preaching until you practice what you preach. Oh... and ty.
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"Not that I care but please don't come here preaching until you practice what you preach."
i whole heartedly agree, Baldeagl.
some people spend too much time talking the talk on the forums and no where near enough time walking the walk in the arenas.
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Originally posted by dedalos
Well, if you think that high ranking players can actually hold their own 1 vs 1, you have long ways to go before reaching average :p
Whilst not considering myself one of the "Good sticks" I am above average and my high rank, due to game style makes me somewhat of a target:D
When it comes to salutes there's salutes:aok and there's piss takers which makes me :furious.
If I shoot a guy down and he salutes me me I will try to salute back but I won't if still engaged in combat. They may have all the time in the world whilst in the tower but DBT shouldn't be my reward for being polite.
If the guy is a numbers guys or has an obscure abbreviated name or a name mixed in with numbers then they can basically forget it. They wanna get all fancy pants with spelling that's their business. Mine isn't trawling through the roster to be polite.
Sometimes I'm not aware that I have been saluted. Text can roll quick when coordinating or if it's a busy weekend.
NOW the BIGGY..... I often not always take offence to a salute being given to me by the guy that shot me down. He's plain a simple going "hahaha".
You know when a guy is saluting a good fight and when he's taking the piss.
Newbies make mistakes but saluting back a mistake won't teach them the correct etiquette so I'll tell them. i.e a tempest HO'ed my HurriC the other day....he lost and saluted me:rolleyes: Irrespective of planes a HO in my opinion, is not worthy of a salute by either party.
If I fight 2,3 or 4 guys and give them a good run for their money and they salute me, usually 2 or 3 salutes from the guys in that fight, then I see no reason to salute back. They are simply acknowledging my spirited performance and rightly so :D
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lol LYNX. What you wrote . . . . . . what I wrote . . . . . . yeah, hmmm, I'm trying but cant see what the connection is :lol
Just in case, I ll translate what I said. He siad he checks the score when he has been killed by someone good. Then he sees the score of the "ace" and he assumes that because of the high rank the guy can actually fight. He also thinks he is average. Sooooo, given that the top ranking pilits area average at best, and that he gets killed by them, I would say that he is not average yet. lol.
Just messing with ya, but not wih the score HOs lol.
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The only times I can remember getting on 200 after a fight and harrassing someone was after they ran for a couple sectors and then flew through ack.
And even after that I usually just call them pathetic...
BnZ'ers, HO'ers, gangbangs... none of that really bothers me. It's the people that make me chase them all over the map that annoy the crap out of me.
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If Vulched I wont Salute Back
If you Ganged me I won Salute BAck
If you Cherried me I wont Salute BAck
If you Ran For 2 sectors then turned around when i broke off and then HO'ed me I wont Salute BAck..
If Vulched no
If ganged in a 1 vs 4 or so situation and I kill several of them, I will them all. If ganged and I kill all of them, I send out a rapid .s to all of them:)
If cherried I wont
If they ran at all and I got bored and one of us died (him or me) I wont
If I felt I did not fly to the best of my abilities and they me I will say "nah don't me I didn't put up a good fight" or something like that
Basically I only 1 on 1 or if it was a fun fight
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Originally posted by Oldman731
There are alternative views.
Bad losers are making excuses, rather than learning from their errors. Possibly it makes them feel better about themselves, but it hardly spurs improvement.
I agree with Phil's point that it's important to remember that the new guy you shot is (usually) trying hard, and benefits from encouragement, rather that taunting.
I except from the foregoing those who vulch and or gang.
- oldman
I didn't necessarily say that the bad losers then rant about it on Ch.200, I bet most of these silent vets kick themselves every time they lose.
My point was, people (generally) dont get anywhere by simply accepting defeat.
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Originally posted by Furball
I didn't necessarily say that the bad losers then rant about it on Ch.200, I bet most of these silent vets kick themselves every time they lose.
My point was, people (generally) dont get anywhere by simply accepting defeat.
I think I've only ever said something on 200 two or three times after getting shot down and it's usually a pretty lame one-liner but man, my foot hurts. :)
And I REALLY hate it when I get beat :furious , go back looking for revenge :t and get beat again :confused: :(
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phil
you shouldnt believe rank or score mean all that much,they dont.
im not an old timer but ive been in AH for four years now, this is by far the greatist game ever made, {worth the headaches it causes sometimes}
my rank and score suk, but i only fly fighters, {for the most part anyway,i just cannot bomb or gv so i dont} plus i love the dogfight.
im not the best in here, but i know how to dog fight and 1vs1 I win 8 out of 10 times in MA. we know how often 1vs1 happens in MA, so i die far more often then not... i wont whine on 200 and i will give a to those who deserve it... a classic example of one who doesnt deserve a ... I'm engaged with 3 nme cons fighting my prettythang off working them down, dodging there slashing attacks, all the time draining there e... killing one or starting to put rounds into one. when a new nme out of nowhere takes me out...
SA is most important for the MA... if you want to survive long dont do what i do... by flying towards the biggest red dar you can find... fight till you have no bullits...or you are dead.
i guess all im saying is this game rocks, and
dont sweat the petty stuff, just pet the sweaty stuff
:cool:
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Then there is that group of old timers like myself who just can't take any of this seriously :)
Since I tend to fly low most of the time, I'll ask folks to come down and play.
Other then that, I'm generally of the opinion that 99% of the folks playing this game are good people and treat them as such.
As long as they keep giving me a new 38G after I die, I see no reason to make excuses:aok
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Most of the "good" sticks that are bad losers aren't even good. I talk some smack on occasion, but mostly to tardlets that I just shot down, runners, or particularly terrible gang-tards. The better sticks in here tend to be a bit more humble, and just berate all of you in private/skwad channels :aok
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Originally posted by wetrat
Most of the "good" sticks that are bad losers aren't even good.
Well duh!!! Good sticks don't lose.
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Sometimes if they're really going ballistic, I'll do a
////.squelch on 200
like I accidentally hit slash too many times. Drives them CRAZY.
Then I squelch them for real.
:D
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Originally posted by wetrat
Most of the "good" sticks that are bad losers aren't even good. I talk some smack on occasion, but mostly to tardlets that I just shot down, runners, or particularly terrible gang-tards. The better sticks in here tend to be a bit more humble, and just berate all of you in private/skwad channels :aok
Youuuuu suck! Ya jackazz!
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Well duh!!! Good sticks don't lose.
Old people suck:D
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Originally posted by Furball
Youuuuu suck! Ya jackazz!
I did get this reference.
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Originally posted by dedalos
Old people suck:D
Blame cheap china import dentures :noid
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Blame cheap china import dentures :noid
And the cat. You know, I just realised something. That is not a lag cheat that I seeyou use in the DA. Its just the lag generated by your age. You know, old person, big car, hehehehe :D
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75% can't tell or know dif between HO and deflection shot, over years i 've posted many films after someones rant, saying i ho'ed. only 1out of many came on boards said sorry you were right deflection shot and that was BUBA. others whine 200 post film you post and they just slump away. When I played I filmed every sortie, end of day only saved ones with rants or vebal pms./ and fights i lost those ones you learn from.
best fighter pilots never up near top of rankings. And if you want to know who is going for score just check bomb % only way to get over 500 % is to bomb unarmed strat.
with aces highs rules you can kill squadmates over and over or friends as XXXXX does. so you can't even trust fighter ranks of some. Batfink aka mechinac is right only true test DA and find out if your near best.
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Turn off 200.....then you won't see the "Good Sticks" smack.
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Good sticks - Bad sticks - Ugly sticks - whatever.
If you get shot down and feel the need to get on 200 and announce to the word the reasons/excuses why you got killed ...
"lucky shot ya punk"
"no friggin way XXX plane can fly/turn/dive/accelerate that fast"
"If your buddy didn't jump in ... u were dead meat"
"blah blah blah"
... you need to seriously "Man Up". Such BS is purely self-serving to deflect from your pea-brain that you fugged up and hopefully everybody will believe your poor excuse.
Like my friend Corky says ... You get a new life and a new plane, so STFU and spare the rest of us your BS diatribe on 200.
Better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Cause they suckk as ppl
Although I haven’t received complaints from SHawk or Lusche. When killed (if it was a good fight) I will salute.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
IThis obviously wasn't the case a few months ago when you flew straight at me, Spit vs Spit, lost the HO and went on a 200 tirade for the next 30 minutes. It was the second most amount of 200 abuse against me that I've seen in all my time playung this game. Not that I care but please don't come here preaching until you practice what you preach. Oh... and ty.
I have only one thing to say to that. Show me the film. Otherwise, do not make unfounded statements you can't backup. It belittles you and the players who enjoy this game. I have NEVER spoken to anyone on 200 let alone 30 minutes? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I have responded on priv to people who whined to me about my kiilling them. I normally tell them to get a life as its a game.
Ren
The Damned
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
I have only one thing to say to that. Show me the film. Otherwise, do not make unfounded statements you can't backup. It belittles you and the players who enjoy this game. I have NEVER spoken to anyone on 200 let alone 30 minutes? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I have responded on priv to people who whined to me about my kiilling them. I normally tell them to get a life as its a game.
Ren
The Damned
I never film so there you go. You're off the hook. But it WAS you. I don't forget these things.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I never film so there you go. You're off the hook. But it WAS you. I don't forget these things.
By comparison, anyone who has ever flown near me, been killed by me, killed me has never heard a peep from me on 200 other than a salute. I already mentioned I only respond on priv to those that whine to get a life.
If you want to make unsubstantiated claims do it then tell your friends, if you have any, who you think might believe you.
Ren
The Damned
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Not all 'good sticks' are 200 loudmouths, and nothing like all of the 200 loudmouths are good sticks. There is no correlation.
All 200 loudmouths who have to abuse their killer are sore-losers who have to try to attempt to belittle them in order not to feel as so it was really their own fault for dieing.
200 can be quite pathetic at times, but useful as a tool for working out who is where and what they're flying and what sort of personality they have. Some people really should keep their traps shut.
True good sticks (real good sports) tend to be largely silent on 200 except for the odd well placed and friendly banter.
Other times its fun just winding people up :D You get to know who are good wind-up candidates from their 200 antics.
Take it ALL with a grain of salt!
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Ren is a true man w/ honor & would never say anything to offend someone. He has my respect as well as others. So for you BaldEagle to claim that you recieved "abuse" from Ren is not only unheard of but is a really stupid thing to say. I call BS
<<>> Ren
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Originally posted by Shane
heh, he said, "maturity", heh
:rofl :rofl :rofl I was just thinking the same thing about 'assclowns'
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Originally posted by DamnedRen
By comparison, anyone who has ever flown near me, been killed by me, killed me has never heard a peep from me on 200 other than a salute. I already mentioned I only respond on priv to those that whine to get a life.
If you want to make unsubstantiated claims do it then tell your friends, if you have any, who you think might believe you.
Ren
The Damned
Maybe you were just having a bad day. Who knows. It happens to all of us.
Maybe "abuse" wasn't the right wording. Maybe "a whine followed by taunting" would have been a better description and the 30 minutes wasn't all one-sided, it was an "exchange" until I finally got sick of arguing with a dweeb who was pissed off because he set himself up to be HO'd.
And I would expect such a person to 1. not live up to it and 2. try to find a way to turn it around on the other (by invoking the "film rule" and by running to get your "friends" to stand up for you).
Why would I attack you specifically if this wasn't true? Why pick you out of all the people posting in this thread? The only reason is that you're saying one thing when doing something completely opposite. Other than our little exchange that day I have nothing against you. I still don't but be a man and admit it. I don't expect you will because like getting shot down it's always someone elses fault.
Like that day, I'm going to stop now because it's just not worth it.
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Well duh!!! Good sticks don't lose.
:rofl
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Is "ownt!' considered a 200 tirade?:aok
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skyrock if i were u id leave this topic now u know what i mean
(whispers to others) he fell for the trap:t
DA?
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Maybe you were just having a bad day. Who knows. It happens to all of us.
Maybe "abuse" wasn't the right wording. Maybe "a whine followed by taunting" would have been a better description and the 30 minutes wasn't all one-sided, it was an "exchange" until I finally got sick of arguing with a dweeb who was pissed off because he set himself up to be HO'd.
I have no idea what your beef with me is. I don't really care. I do take offence to your trying to use me as your scapegoat on the boards. Right now all you sound like is someone who needs a life. I'm not your momma or papa so it's not up to me to give you a life nor will I try to. If this is all you have I'd suggest you get some help. The rest of us will go on living and enjoying ourselves and this game.
Ren
The Damned
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so who will it be to get the last word in? inquiring minds want to know!!!:D
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I love to see people whining about whiners. What would happen if all the whiners stopped whining? What would you whine about then? Wait I'm whining about people whining about whiners. Aaahhhggghh! My brain is melting!
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I recently flew under a shades account for a two week trial and here's what I found.
When I fly under Lute and shoot a "good", or even a "decent/avg"stick down I generally get a or some such thing.
When I was under the shade I got ALL KINDS of smack talk, and rarely a . Players were rude to me, and even members of my own country were jerks.
I found it most "interesting".
I now make it a point to try and be a "kinder and gentler" lute to the noobs.
(except for squeakers of course)
(another interesting note, TC knew who I was within a round or so in a KOTH. I never knew I flew a particular way, but he knew exactly who I was quick)
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Originally posted by dedalos
Well, if you think that high ranking players can actually hold their own 1 vs 1, you have long ways to go before reaching average :p
Muppets occupy quite a few of the top fighter ranks, and they can all handle themselves (well.. except zazen :t :aok ). I will agree that the rest of them, with a few exceptions, definitely do suck, and as far as I can tell, everyone with a good overall rank is pretty much terrible.
And Lute.. I've had pretty much the same experience several times. Every time I come back from one of my prolonged breaks, I fly a few weeks with a shade until the rust falls off and I get around to emailing skuzzy. Definitely a bit more hostility... This time around I made no secret that Sakuraba = wetrat, and it wasn't too bad. "Good" players don't like losing to people they haven't heard of. Good players want to know who they lost to in order to gauge how badly they fked up (ie. if I get pwnd by a hub shade in the MA, I will be embarrassed, and re-up and slaughter him... if I get pwnd by a NathBDP shade, I will be less embarrassed, but still go hunting for him).
Originally posted by Furball
Youuuuu suck! Ya jackazz!
No, u r.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
by running to get your "friends" to stand up for you
Now ur not only talkin smack & BS but ur also assuming shyte. I just happen to go to the TA from time-to-time & MA's and see Ren fight.
Like I said Ren is one who flyz w/ honor and would not stoop to ur level.
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Don't stop now! I wouldn't take that!
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j129/claytonksmith/ohsnap.jpg)
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Originally posted by WMLute
I recently flew under a shades account for a two week trial and here's what I found.
When I fly under Lute and shoot a "good", or even a "decent/avg"stick down I generally get a or some such thing.
When I was under the shade I got ALL KINDS of smack talk, and rarely a . Players were rude to me, and even members of my own country were jerks.
I found exactly the same thing when i changed to 'Ball', i got challenged to DA 4 times in one day by just shooting people down. I ended going there with Ruaml and then SkyRock (who got pwnd in A6M's).
Originally posted by wetrat
No, u r.
Nu-uh. u do.
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Its too bad hookers don't take perk points, the ch200 'I refuse to man up' whiners might just be silenced, too busy smelling their fingers to type trash.
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Most guys that swear and moan arent as good as they pretend to be. But they are loudmouthed and a lot of people that are new to the game think these are the great pilots.
Some of the guys that are top ranking in fighter rank are verry good, but because someone isnt ranked at all or not in the top 1000 doesnt mean hes worse.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
"no friggin way XXX plane can fly/turn/dive/accelerate that fast"
That one is the best, lol. Normal reply is that I did not do it. You did lol
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Originally posted by WMLute
I recently flew under a shades account for a two week trial and here's what I found.
When I fly under Lute and shoot a "good", or even a "decent/avg"stick down I generally get a or some such thing.
When I was under the shade I got ALL KINDS of smack talk, and rarely a . Players were rude to me, and even members of my own country were jerks.
I found it most "interesting".
I now make it a point to try and be a "kinder and gentler" lute to the noobs.
(except for squeakers of course)
(another interesting note, TC knew who I was within a round or so in a KOTH. I never knew I flew a particular way, but he knew exactly who I was quick)
HA I know Lute fly when I SEES it!!!! :) :)
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OH and ANYONE............
1....that shoots at wrag is a CHEATER MEANY BULLY!!!!!!! :furious
2....that shoots at wrag and HITS is a @&^%& :furious
3....That shoots at wrag and hits and gives wrag an OWIE is a *&&^%$% AND a &^$&&%#%^ :furious
4....that shoots at wrag and hits and shoots wrag down is... is.... ahhh...
UGLY! WEARS COMBAT FLIGHT BOOTS, AND THEIR WOMEN FOLK DRESS EM FUNNY!!!!!! :furious
there I feel better :rofl
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
Maybe you were just having a bad day. Who knows. It happens to all of us.
Maybe "abuse" wasn't the right wording. Maybe "a whine followed by taunting" would have been a better description and the 30 minutes wasn't all one-sided, it was an "exchange" until I finally got sick of arguing with a dweeb who was pissed off because he set himself up to be HO'd.
And I would expect such a person to 1. not live up to it and 2. try to find a way to turn it around on the other (by invoking the "film rule" and by running to get your "friends" to stand up for you).
Why would I attack you specifically if this wasn't true? Why pick you out of all the people posting in this thread? The only reason is that you're saying one thing when doing something completely opposite. Other than our little exchange that day I have nothing against you. I still don't but be a man and admit it. I don't expect you will because like getting shot down it's always someone elses fault.
Like that day, I'm going to stop now because it's just not worth it.
I see you've moved on to another person. I have to call BS on your "claim that Ren shot his mouth off to me". You're full of it, I merely said "hi" to him last night and it took about 5 minutes for him to reply. Ren has ALWAYS hated Channel 1/200". You picked the wrong person to try this on.
You said: "Like that day, I'm going to stop now because it's just not worth it."
Really should have said: "I had better shut my trap because I am confusing you with someone else and am looking like a chode."
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Originally posted by Furball
I found exactly the same thing when i changed to 'Ball', i got challenged to DA 4 times in one day by just shooting people down. I ended going there with Ruaml and then SkyRock (who got pwnd in A6M's).
Nu-uh. u do.
Some didn't treat you like garbage. <> Furry.
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While I still believe and stick by my story i offer a public appology to Ren because this wasn't the place to bring it up and doing so was (typically) out of charachter for me. It was a sleeping dog that should have been left to lie and wasn't that big of a deal to begin with. I hope you'll accept my appology.
I guess I wasn't done yet. Now lets go play.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Some didn't treat you like garbage. <> Furry.
yup :)
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Is it not obvious that "good sticks" are bad losers because they have less experience in losing ;)
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Originally posted by BlauK
Is it not obvious that "good sticks" are bad losers because they have less experience in losing ;)
Nope! :) I mentioned before the real old guys who've been doing this for a long time have only themselves to blame and they kick themselves for putting themselves into a situation where they lose. For the old guys the buck stops there. There is no hooting it up on any channel. Just a quiet re-launch to go at it again.
You might think of it like this...maybe a guy "seems" to be an old timer to you but if he's yakin it up on priv or 200 then he's just another noob and hasn't figured out he's the guy that set himself up to fail. Not the guy who shot him down.
One other thing for all the noob's. The highest ranking guy who thinks he's the best in the game is gonna get shot down by the newest 2 day old baby seal flyer when he least expects it. It doesn't mean the noob can take on a old timer 1v1 and win many. It just means that no one is exempt from the Golden BB. :) Why I'm saying this is us old guys just move on to the next fight and don't mull or sulk over what happened cause it's history.
Phil, this is for you. If someone doesn't respond to every you give or say "nice fight" don't worry too much about it. When yer new every kill has a lot of significance as you learned a new way to bring the fight to a successful conclusion and...there's always the next gomer out there just awaiting your attention. The satisfaction of the honest kill you win in a dogfight is something you get to keep for yourself and no one else. :)
For the mokes....an honest kill = you shot the guy down in a contested area in battle. It doesn't matter how you did it...HO, hi-deflection, 1v1, 1v2, 2v1, 2v2, XvX, diving through a furball, the bad guy just appeared in front of you for some reason and you just pulled the trigger, etc. One other thing about a kill (read target here) is that you might be in a mini furball with perhaps a 4v4 battle going on. Your original target can change in a heart beat and may also change from one bad guy to another then on to another in just a second or two. A dogfight is very fluid and opportunities come and go in a split second. You gotta be prepared to note the changes (no angles for a shot, for instance) and instantly change targets.
A dishonest kill is a couple of buds shooting each other on the runway. The good news is there aren't many of them around. I have yet to figure that out as they only scam themselves as pretty much everyone in this game know about where they are in the standings (standings - their comfort level in the dogfight environment) and no one really cares what the score says but what happens in the fights, up there in the unfriendly, friendly skies of AH2.
Ren
The Damned
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Phil,
I actually read this whole thread! AAAHHHHH
I don't think anyone really answered about the guy who just shot you down talkin smack after you ed him.
If he does this he is either just pullinn your chain, is actually a noob himself and is havin a good night and thinks he's finally figured it all out but will shortly get his butt handed to him numerous times and run back to the TA for help, or is just a general poopyhead who needs to get L*%D! I'm sure you can fill in the other possible reasons.
Most the OLD gang are generally good guys and gals who will not let much get under their skin as many have said here. Some of us make the mistake of logging on here after a bad day and end up recreating it in the game...(guilty of this on occasion). I hate dying ( although it happens often) and on the wrong day, the wrong little prod from some name I've never heard may make me say what I was only intending to think....
If you don't mind losing, you'll probably be very good at it.:noid
So act as you would be treated and eventually you'll be flying AH in your sleep like we do!....:rolleyes:
P.S. Never heard Ren say a cross word.
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IIRC...................
and I might not......................
THINK i heard a rumor that REN, whenever he is shot down..............
goes and beats the snott outta STIMPY????????????????????
(but I must agree can't recall REN bein cross???)
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Originally posted by Fianna
The only times I can remember getting on 200 after a fight and harrassing someone was after they ran for a couple sectors and then flew through ack.
And even after that I usually just call them pathetic...
BnZ'ers, HO'ers, gangbangs... none of that really bothers me. It's the people that make me chase them all over the map that annoy the crap out of me.
My question is why chase one con two sectors anyways? It's pretty much a waste of time to me. Just my two pesos! :aok
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Phil,
I'll chime in too. I've played AH off and on for several years. It's one of those off times right now.
Many of the names you see posting on the bulletin board and in the arenas won't be around in a few years if you continue to fly.
Some will of course, and amongst those I think you'll find them to be well mannered excluding the day when everything goes wrong and none of us are at our best.
My happiest times flying have been with the middle-aged guys. With some exceptions of course, they are better behaved. Friend and foe alike.
hap
p.s. Keep up the positive attitude!
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Get rid of 200 sick of the costant bs for the most part on it, also find my self roped into it at times myself. I mean do we really need it?
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Originally posted by Viper35
My question is why chase one con two sectors anyways? It's pretty much a waste of time to me. Just my two pesos! :aok
Usually because they repeatedly tried to BnZ me, and after I finally equalize E and get behind them, they run.
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i love when u fight in your :cool: and kill some dummy..than he challenges you to the DA and gets ZOMG PWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by lyric1
Get rid of 200 sick of the costant bs for the most part on it, also find my self roped into it at times myself. I mean do we really need it?
Don't like it, don't tune it. No one forced you to tune to ch 200.
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Originally posted by Stang
Don't like it, don't tune it. No one forced you to tune to ch 200.
And for that very reason, I would really like to see ch 1 disbanded in EW & MW again.
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Originally posted by Lusche
If I get killed it's only my fault.
Crappy ACM, lack of SA, accepting a HO, flying into an enemy horde or just upping at a bad day.
For some people, it's always someone else' fault.
And if they are running ot of arguments... well, there is always HTC who "should really fix (collisions, FM, guns lethality or whatever)" ;)
I couldn't have said it better myself. I wrote a whole article on this a few weeks back. What I call the hapless victim mentality is the real poison. Heck, fighter jocks, cartoon or real, tend to wear themselves on their sleeves. That dashing Knight of the skies mentality (with the accompanying verbiage) is often part of the success recipe..What is not part of the recipe is the continuous whining, groaning, moaning, crying, blaming and general delegation of all responsiblity for outcomes from oneself onto others...
Buck-Up buttercups! There's a shiny new plane waiting for you at the click of a mouse! ;)
Zazen
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Most of the ppl whining on 200 need to Harden the F.... up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y&mode=related&search=