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Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: blkmgc on May 30, 2007, 05:26:15 PM
You HTC guys know it, and used to love it (I think), and could definately do a heap of a better job than whats currently offered. I long to be in in the seat of an Se5A, or Albatross , or DVa again. Can you build it ? I think you can . :)

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Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: folkwufe on May 30, 2007, 10:29:51 PM
:confused:
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Post by: OdinGrunherze on May 30, 2007, 10:35:54 PM
I kinda liked the SPAD XIII or the Bristol Fighter myself....
A separate game, for the "Knights of the air" types, would be really cool...
But damn, the Albatross was a SWEET LOOKING crate....
OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Ghosth on May 31, 2007, 08:36:33 AM
I KNOW he can build it. The question is will enough people pay for the privilege of flying it to make it worthwhile.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: blkmgc on May 31, 2007, 05:01:48 PM
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Originally posted by Ghosth
I KNOW he can build it. The question is will enough people pay for the privilege of flying it to make it worthwhile.


I another universe far far away, there used to be quite a following untill "the man"....er..."fixed" things with a new version, and killed the old. Which killed it off. I know I'd split my time there even if it cost me a few beers a month.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: EagleDNY on May 31, 2007, 07:46:47 PM
Started there myself - give me that Fokker D.VII anytime.  

Thats when men were men, and giant flaming gasbags didn't refer to some dweeb on channel 200...
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on May 31, 2007, 08:01:07 PM
Yeah man, a stupid Marconi set wouldn't fit in an airplane....
Neither would parachutes, or self sealing fuel tanks.... LOL!!!
They were REAL AIRMEN....
Nothing like flying, with a full gas tank under your seat....
And nothing between you and Perdition, except your own wit's

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on May 31, 2007, 08:32:54 PM
now here is an airplane that everyone could consider. A Dorier Do-335 A late war airpane the plane had an engine in the back and in the front if the germans built it, it would have been the fastes prop-driven aircarft. the only reson they did not persue this project was because they had the jet- powerd airplane and it would be obsolete here are some pictures for you guys to feast your eyes on



(http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/dornier/do_335/do335-112.jpg)


(http://www.skylighters.org/encyclopedia/images/do335c.jpg)



(http://butcherbirdmodels.com/images/do335pur.jpg)


the nickname of this airplane was called the "Pheil" or "Arrow" in America
hows that for a plane :aok
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Lusche on May 31, 2007, 08:35:27 PM
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Originally posted by Bosco123
now here is an airplane that everyone could consider. A Dorier Do-335 A late war airpane the plane had an engine in the back and in the front if the germans built it, it would have been the fastes prop-driven aircarft. the only reson they did not persue this project was because they had the jet- powerd airplane


Ehmmm.. you might check your sources again. There was no" if".
This project was pursued, the Do 335 was built, and just delayed because it's factory was destroyed.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: titanic3 on May 31, 2007, 08:36:22 PM
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Originally posted by Bosco123
now here is an airplane that everyone could consider. A Dorier Do-335 A late war airpane the plane had an engine in the back and in the front if the germans built it, it would have been the fastes prop-driven aircarft. the only reson they did not persue this project was because they had the jet- powerd airplane and it would be obsolete here are some pictures for you guys to feast your eyes on



(http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/dornier/do_335/do335-112.jpg)


(http://www.skylighters.org/encyclopedia/images/do335c.jpg)



(http://butcherbirdmodels.com/images/do335pur.jpg)


the nickname of this airplane was called the "Pheil" or "Arrow" in America
hows that for a plane :aok


few were produce, little service. NO. but i wonder why we have the N1K, little produce too....:confused:
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on May 31, 2007, 08:53:34 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Ehmmm.. you might check your sources again. There was no" if".
This project was pursued, the Do 335 was built, and just delayed because it's factory was destroyed.

they acually had 5 in flight before the war ended i think 3 night fighters and 2 day fighters. I just read an article about them on wikapedia and they say that the germans said that it was a great plane easy to turn and the speed was incredible. they also said that the first dogfight it had was between 4 tempast and he saw them turned around and took off and the tempast could never catch it.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Lusche on May 31, 2007, 09:04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Bosco123
they acually had 5 in flight before the war ended i think 3 night fighters and 2 day fighters. I just read an article about them on wikapedia  


You should try and read that article again...
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on May 31, 2007, 09:30:56 PM
The Dornier Arrow actually saw combat??? Yes it did!!!! It wasn't for very long, a matter of weeks.. Had major problems wth propellers.... Just like all the late war German super planes..... Uhu, TA 152, etc....The props were made of laminated wood, instead of aluminum... They self destructed VERY OFTEN....

When tested, (after repairs) in the US after the war... It was the fastest prop plane that ever flew....

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on May 31, 2007, 09:37:20 PM
But this thread, is about REAL MEN, and REAL "AERO"PLANES.....
No cannons, no radar, no armor plate.... LOL, no throttle either....
Just a Mag switch....

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on May 31, 2007, 10:26:32 PM
try havin an engine at the back of your head and at your waist and see if your man enough to fly the airplane. and luche there were 37 prototype 10 A-0 11 A-1 and 2 A-12 trainers 2-5 max flew because it was late im pretty sure of that if you want to tell me that go ahead tell me im wrong
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on May 31, 2007, 10:28:22 PM
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Originally posted by OdinGrunherze
But this thread, is about REAL MEN, and REAL "AERO"PLANES.....
No cannons, no radar, no armor plate.... LOL, no throttle either....
Just a Mag switch....

OG


and also the F6F-5 had an armour plate for the protection of the piolt and they went man enough :huh  :huh :confused:
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Scherf on May 31, 2007, 10:53:28 PM
Camel.

Nieuport.

SPAD.

Se5a.

Bristol Fighter.

DH2.



Yes, yes. I would fly them, pay another $15/month to do it, too.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on June 01, 2007, 04:49:44 AM
And Parachute's were considered a sign of cowardice!!!
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on June 01, 2007, 05:04:49 AM
Wow those guys had Major gonads... An unreliable engine, a flimsy thin gastank behind the instrument panel, (right over their feet)... Flammable dope soaked linen skin.... Those crate's were a fire hazard, just sitting on the ground....
Single hunters on dawn patrol...
Chivalry in the air.... A pilot could hold his hands up, and his enemy would give him a pass...Sometimes???

Knights of the air!!!

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Ghosth on June 01, 2007, 07:46:49 AM
Currently reading Canvas Falcons by Stephen Longstreet.

At one point he points out that planes of the era had>>>>


Unreliable motors which spat out large  quantity's of Caster oil.
The most flammable liquid imaginable in a large tank right in front of you.
Cloth skin over wing spars coated with liquid explosive.


Now I'm not sure exactly what went into "dope" back then, but if it had any nitrocellulose in it as "gap filler" it would indeed burn with an unholy glee.

If you don't believe me take apart a shotgun shell, take the nitrocellulose powder out of the base, dissolve it in laqueor, paint it on silk, let it dry, then try igniting the stuff. Back in that era they used long strips of it as film media for the movie picture industry. Those reels would not quite explode if ignited.

but the speed at which it burns is a sight to behold.

Its not that it can't be done, because it has.
Its that there just doesn't seem to be enough demand by enough people to make it a paying proposition.

I used to split my time between warbirds and WWI flying sims.
Flew most of them at one time or another. Flying Circus had huge potential, but couldn't make it pay the bills. Red Baron, DOA, the list goes on & on.

But I just don't see the demand. We have kids coming up who want to fly jets, what do they care about wooden wings and wire?
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on June 01, 2007, 08:09:58 AM
I think its obvious, there are some of us who would gladly subscribe...
Myself included...

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Scca on June 01, 2007, 08:35:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bosco123
now here is an airplane that everyone could consider. A Dorier Do-335 A late war airpane the plane had an engine in the back and in the front if the germans built it, it would have been the fastes prop-driven aircarft. the only reson they did not persue this project was because they had the jet- powerd airplane and it would be obsolete here are some pictures for you guys to feast your eyes on



(http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/dornier/do_335/do335-112.jpg)


(http://www.skylighters.org/encyclopedia/images/do335c.jpg)



(http://butcherbirdmodels.com/images/do335pur.jpg)


the nickname of this airplane was called the "Pheil" or "Arrow" in America
hows that for a plane :aok

There is one of these on display at the Udvar-Hazy Air and Space Museum at Dulles airport near D.C.

It's a pretty big plane....
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on June 01, 2007, 10:32:10 AM
that one was a remake of it, it was made in the 80's. the rreal one is in gremany
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Lusche on June 01, 2007, 10:42:42 AM
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Originally posted by Bosco123
that one was a remake of it, it was made in the 80's. the rreal one is in gremany


nonsense.

It's the original one.
It was restored by Dornier in 1975, then on display in the Deutsches Museum in Munich for 10 years. It's now back in the United States.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on June 01, 2007, 11:15:56 AM
okay im wrong even though I did not see it last year at the smithsoinian museum in D.C its probly hidden
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: blkmgc on June 01, 2007, 04:41:48 PM
Hey, take your non WWI era hijack to your own thread.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: blkmgc on June 01, 2007, 04:42:36 PM
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Originally posted by Scherf
Camel.

Nieuport.

SPAD.

Se5a.

Bristol Fighter.

DH2.



Yes, yes. I would fly them, pay another $15/month to do it, too.


Same here, forgot about the bristol fighter.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: DaddyAck on June 02, 2007, 07:30:16 AM
Well, a WW1 style arena would be a haven for all the furballers. I am not sure what it would do for the buff pilots as the would be extremely limited.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Bosco123 on June 02, 2007, 09:59:02 AM
Well if you guys want to stay in would how about the P6-E "Hawk"??
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on June 02, 2007, 10:30:10 AM
The P6 didn't appear untill after the war..... Kinda like the P80 for WW2...
Lets not get into that again!!!

Bomber Guys;
Early war; they could throw hand grenades over the side....LOL!!!
Late war; Handley Page 0400's, Gotha's, and lets not forget the ZEPP's bombing london... Talk about a target a blind man couldn't miss...LOL!!!

Man a WW1 game would be sooo cool.... You could design and paint your own airplane skins... Wild ones too...

But I'm not going to hold my breath.... No oxygen either, Hmmmm...

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on June 02, 2007, 10:39:46 AM
one word as far as planes go;
EINDECKER!!!
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2007, 11:01:54 AM
ZEPPELIN!!!!!!!
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: blkmgc on June 02, 2007, 11:41:23 AM
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Originally posted by DaddyAck
Well, a WW1 style arena would be a haven for all the furballers. I am not sure what it would do for the buff pilots as the would be extremely limited.


Bristol F2B. There were a bunch of bomb carrying types available.
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: OdinGrunherze on June 02, 2007, 12:36:32 PM
Imagine what these guys would do with a ZepStukellin???

OG
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2007, 02:09:50 PM
I could see it now..... a formation of them suicide dive bombing a field at 10mph.:rofl
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: DaddyAck on June 02, 2007, 04:17:20 PM
LOL :rofl
you know they probably would too, and that is the ironic/funny part!
LOL :rofl
Title: Wood , wire, and cloth
Post by: blkmgc on June 02, 2007, 04:30:50 PM
They'd at least try it once. ;)