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Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Halo on May 30, 2007, 10:29:53 PM
My routine eye exam today turned interesting when I got my first dilation and the optometrist said, "I've never seen optic nerves like that."

Before this, the optometrists have always been impressed with my general eye health and overall health.  Some astigmatism, but no significant problems.

He scheduled me for a more detailed gadget that he gets on a rotational basis with other optometrists.  Next available turn on that is August.

I don't think so.  Sounds like time to see an opthamologist and start the endless Google research on optic nerves and glaucoma.  

So got an opthamologist appointment in a couple weeks.  Sort of a second opinion in advance.  Might eventually just switch to him totally.  

The optometrist said there is some optic nerve deterioration.  No kidding, as we age, everything starts to deteriorate.  Said will just establish a better base of present status so if things start to change can consider what needs to be done in future.  

Can't restore lost nerves, but apparently can do some stuff with medication although much of that has side effects.

Does this ring a bell with any of you?  Do any of you have glaucoma or are any of you on a higher degree of vision alert like this?  Any advice?
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: rpm on May 31, 2007, 12:35:17 AM
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Can't restore lost nerves, but apparently can do some stuff with medication ...

(http://www.gagreport.com/images/jamaica%20joint.jpg)
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: cav58d on May 31, 2007, 12:58:53 AM
Boys about to me BLAZED!
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: DiabloTX on May 31, 2007, 01:02:16 AM
HAHA!  That girl has a look on her face that says, "Man, what a f***ing idiot!"
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: cav58d on May 31, 2007, 01:06:14 AM
I think that chick could very well be a man hippie in a dress lmao....

Furthermore, I think he/she is standing in awe of this "God" ripping the phattest J i've ever seen hahaha
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: AWMac on May 31, 2007, 01:08:05 AM
If you've NEVAR rolled a doob from the paper out of a Cheech and Chong Album, you just might be a N00B.

:D

Mac

But this pic is gotta be photoshopped...he's still standing.

Or is he smoking Paraquat Mexican Herb?

:rolleyes:
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Xargos on May 31, 2007, 01:09:33 AM
Do not play around with your eyes, get them checked now.  I started going blind when I was two years old due to cataracts in both my eyes.  Without glasses or contact lens my vision is 20/800.  My biggest problem today is that I get Iritis often and need to get Atropine injections into my eyes.  I can not get lens implants because of the meds I have to use to keep the Iritis at bay.  My mom and sister are in worse shape then me because I'm younger and the surgeons had developed better techniques by the time I had my surgeries done.  

Do NOT play around.  The longer you wait, the more damage to your eyes will occur.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: DiabloTX on May 31, 2007, 01:10:52 AM
Nah, she looks female.  And she looks like is deciding this lefty hippy crap just may not be for her after all.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: AWMac on May 31, 2007, 01:14:21 AM
Xargos, Miss talking to you Bro. Hope that your Mom and Sister are doing well.

Thanks Bro, I haven't forgotten you or your Family.

Mac
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Xargos on May 31, 2007, 01:17:27 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Xargos, Miss talking to you Bro. Hope that your Mom and Sister are doing well.

Thanks Bro, I haven't forgotten you or your Family.

Mac


Hope your doing well.:)

And Thank You.:D
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: john9001 on May 31, 2007, 08:36:49 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
If you've NEVAR rolled a doob from the paper out of a Cheech and Chong Album, you just might be a N00B.
:



big bamboo, we just had to do it.:D
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Halo on May 31, 2007, 10:10:31 AM
Wouldn't have expected a hijacking so early.  Never considered glaucoma  a hallucinatory diversion.  Have fun, but sometime you might want to get the full pupil dilated eye check.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Xargos on May 31, 2007, 10:17:09 AM
Have you found out anything more Halo?  Can you see a Doctor sooner?
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Maverick on May 31, 2007, 11:15:54 AM
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Originally posted by Xargos
Do not play around with your eyes, get them checked now.  I started going blind when I was two years old due to cataracts in both my eyes.  Without glasses or contact lens my vision is 20/800.  My biggest problem today is that I get Iritis often and need to get Atropine injections into my eyes.  I can not get lens implants because of the meds I have to use to keep the Iritis at bay.  My mom and sister are in worse shape then me because I'm younger and the surgeons had developed better techniques by the time I had my surgeries done.  

Do NOT play around.  The longer you wait, the more damage to your eyes will occur.


What he said X 5!!!

You have 2 eyes and they are not indelicate. Nerve damage is permanent and it only takes damage to 2 nerves to make you totally blind. Get into an Opthamologists office asap and get it checked. If the eyes are carrying too much pressure the damage is not waiting to happen it is on going and is cumulative.

Ignore the idiots hijacking the thread, get to the doctor asap. Your vision is too critical to your quality of life to screw around with.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: rpm on May 31, 2007, 12:48:28 PM
Did'nt mean to start a hijack, Halo. Marijuana is suppossed to be very effective treatment for glaucoma. Definitely go to the opthamologist and get it checked out. Skip the optomitrist when something serious is involved.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Halo on May 31, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
No sweat, rpm.  I realize marijuana is supposed to be one of the treatments for glaucoma and other medical issues.

I see the opthalo June 11.  The optometrist was not in crisis mode nor am I, although he might have been a bit more circumspect in announcing he had never seen optic nerves that look like mine.

The irony is the optometrists have always been impressed with my ocular condition until this one dilated my pupils for the first time.  

I'm like most people in thinking this or that problem is something that happens to others until I get a whiff of a potential nasty that might apply to me.  Glaucoma was at the top of the list.  Hopefully I don't have it.  But I'm sure doing my research before seeing the ophamologist.  

I thought some Aces Highers might have experience with glaucoma, and just wanted to get any insight they might have.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: AWMac on May 31, 2007, 02:18:33 PM
Bro I didn't mean to assist in a hijacked thread.

I'm Diabetic plus I've worked in Telecommunications running optic fiber... I've been hit in the left eye and have a permanent black dot that I see forever.  Vision is a very real thing.

With the Diabeties I can see my vision slowly drifting away.

Bro best of luck to you and you know I care.

Mac
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: cav58d on May 31, 2007, 07:53:22 PM
Halo -  What are your thoughts on medicinal marijuana if your M.D. recommends it for your treatment?
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Flit on May 31, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
http://www.allaboutvision.com/faq/glaucoma.htm
 Did he do the "Puff Test"?
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Halo on May 31, 2007, 09:22:51 PM
Thanks, guys, appreciate the concern.  I'm not on a pity trip.  I realize many people have much more serious issues than I do.  Just trying to assess my options.  

Cav, if medical conditions are cured/mitigated by marijuana, I'm all for it just like any other drug.  As a non smoker, however, I'd hope for a pill form or anything besides smoking it.

Flit, thanks for the link.  Yes, I had the puff tests and quite a few others.  Everything was fine until the dilation when he got a good look at the optic nerves.  About 17 years ago I had a TIA (transient ischemic attack) that included blurred vision, especially right eye.  I recovered within about an hour.  Maybe the optometrist saw damage from that (and naturally I forgot to mention that to him at the time).  Fortunately my vision still has been fine since (I've worn glasses since my mid 20s).  

The optometrist wants this fancier test machine to establish a better basis of my exact present condition for monitoring any further optical nerve deterioration and then deciding what to do about it.  

I have no vision problems other than normal correction by eyeglasses.  Like most people with no other vision problems I have been aware of glaucoma but never got unduly concerned because my eye exams always have been fine.

Now one optometrist shows concern after my first pupil dilation.  So I'm concerned until we get this fancier machine analysis.  Not trying to make Much Ado About Nothing.  Just trying to understand more about glaucoma and optical nerves via Google and this forum.

So far, I'm not hearing from any Aces High people who have experienced glaucoma or similar "unusual looking optical nerves."  Any of you out there?  

In the back of my mind I suspect the optometrist is trying to make sure I get annual eye exams.  I've always gone about every three years which is when I usually detect I my eyeglasses could use a little fine tuning.

Is this forum weird or what?  Aces High aficionados know more about my medical condition than my family except for my wife.  I guess it's typical parents not wanting to bother kids since they've got lots more important things to worry about managing their own lives.  

The main thing is looking for more information.  No sense bothering people unless you can help them with your experience or learn from their experiences.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: 68ZooM on May 31, 2007, 11:11:07 PM
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Originally posted by AWMac
If you've NEVAR rolled a doob from the paper out of a Cheech and Chong Album, you just might be a N00B.

:D

Mac

But this pic is gotta be photoshopped...he's still standing.

Or is he smoking Paraquat Mexican Herb?

:rolleyes:


LOL Mac

you bet i tried the Cheech and Chong Big bamboo album
paper thats when you could afford to roll the Fattie  lol

On a serious note i was told i had it developing in my left eye thats what the puff of Air tells them i guess and now i get tested every 6 months to see if its getting worse if it does then medical treatment is the next course
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Halo on June 11, 2007, 03:23:19 PM
The ophthalmologist today put my eye concerns at ease.  Contrary to my alarmist optometrist, he said my optical nerves look fine, but I do have more papillary atrophy than usual.  

He said it's primarily a retinal problem, that I might have had it my entire life, nothing can be done for it, so it's primarily a matter of maybe taking some eye-oriented multivitamins and monitoring it to see if any progression occurs.

Sort of like the ozone hole over Antarctica (my interpretation).  

He pinpointed this with a digital camera and showed me the images.  Very interesting to see the inside of your eyes like that.  He said I did not need the HRT laser scan that the optometrist scheduled for August.

At my age I suppose it's time to be having my eyes checked by an ophthamologist instead of an optometrist anyway.  This guy seemed quite professional and had a waiting room full of patients, contrary to the optometrist who never had more than a few patients waiting the times I was there.

So soon old, so late smart.  

My glasses were expensive at the optometrist too.  So if you haven't already, for your eyes I suggest finding a good ophthalmologist and then shopping around for your eyeglasses at competitive prices instead of just locking into one optometrist with supplier on premises.

Anybody have a better vision system to suggest?
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Maverick on June 11, 2007, 03:34:07 PM
I think you are better off with the opthamologist. As far as glasses are concerned you can always take the prescription and go to another supplier. We get our glasses from the source at Costco. You can also check prices and options at places like wallyworld.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: john9001 on June 11, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
a opthamologist is a medical doctor that specializes in eyes, i think most are also surgeons.

a optometrist just fits you with glasses and refers you to a opthamologist.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: lazs2 on June 12, 2007, 08:23:10 AM
I don't know what would be worse... going around pot stupid and wimpy or going blind..  be better off just being shot.

lazs
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 12, 2007, 08:43:20 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
(http://www.gagreport.com/images/jamaica%20joint.jpg)


Is that Boroda?

Btw: I wouldn't be surprised if a new medical term 'AH syndrome' would be found. Aiming reticle and gauges burned on the retina.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Traveler on June 12, 2007, 02:05:18 PM
am not a doctor I was a special forces medic in Viet Nam.  Glaucoma is usually high pressure inside the eye that damages the optic nerve and can result in permanent vision loss. Not all 3 criteria (that is, high pressure inside the eye, optic nerve damage, and vision loss) are required to diagnose glaucoma; however, a diagnosis of glaucoma is certain when all 3 criteria are present.  Every an optometrist can do a pressure test in his office, If yours couldn't find one that can.  Most one hour eyeglass places have an Optometrist nearby.   Of the three criteria for a glaucoma diagnose pressure is the most important, but not the surest indicator.  There are other reasons that you many have high pressure.
Title: Glaucoma?
Post by: Traveler on June 12, 2007, 02:10:08 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
a opthamologist is a medical doctor that specializes in eyes, i think most are also surgeons.

a optometrist just fits you with glasses and refers you to a opthamologist.


An eye surgeon is called an opthamic surgeon and is always an opthamologist, however, not all opthamologists are opthamic surgeons