Aces High Bulletin Board
Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Logan6 on May 31, 2007, 07:59:31 PM
-
I am flying the upcoming Operation Husky in the P40 E model. I am not the best pilot in this game nor even that good:cry . I am looking for any tips or pointers on how to stay alive in this plane. I have been using it in the late war arena just to fight with and getting torn up. I would appreciate any help I can get.
-
As with other planes that lack performance you'll need to make up for it by using numbers, coordination and discipline to achieve any success.
Try to keep your group together at the P40's best altitude and hope that the Axis come at you in smaller groups or if you can arrange it, singles.
-
Originally posted by Blooz
As with other planes that lack performance you'll need to make up for it by using numbers, coordination and discipline to achieve any success.
Try to keep your group together at the P40's best altitude and hope that the Axis come at you in smaller groups or if you can arrange it, singles.
Are you talking about the right plane?
Because the only bad thing about a P-40 is the climb rate.
-
Originally posted by Sweet2th
Are you talking about the right plane?
Because the only bad thing about a P-40 is the climb rate.
nice war bird, needs more power. use flaps when turning. dun try to turn with zekes, spit etc etc... try BnZing.
-
Flaps open up and very high speed for this plane. the only time they can't be opened is at or above 400 mph. Us this to your advantage. if an exemy plane bounces you and you can outdive him (A6M's cannot dive with you), and if he's dumb enough to follow, dive until at high speed. use a notch of flaps and keep the speed high. ALWAYS gain altitude before a fight. Maybe about 10 - 12,000' to work with.
It's sad to see novices fly uber low and end up getting caught.
-
lol, i got a tip for u, dont fly the peice of junk
-
This plane is not a piece of junk. The scenario takes place in EW/MW times where the P40 is not that bad of a plane and actually out preforms most of the Axis planes in the scenario if used correctly.
Keep your E up.
Stay with your group.
If any trouble comes up just dive out you out dive most planes in the scenario.
If forced to turn fight use flaps and wingman tactics to succed
-
However, don't leave your flaps down; it's neither a Spitfire nor a P-38. Fly it like a P-47. Drop flaps whenever you need them, but raise them as soon as possible. You do not have the power to be flying around with that much drag for a long time. A good rule of thumb is, if he's gaining on you in a turn, drop flaps. The moment you start gaining on him, raise them.
-
It's fun to land kills in a plane that others think is a piece of junk. :D Good on you for flying her.
You have to pick your fights carefully. A furball on the deck is not the best place to be, so keep some air under you. There is a noticeable difference in handling once the fuselage tank is dry, so I suggest you carry a drop tank and 50% fuel, then switch to the fuselage tank (Shift + F until tank is in yellow) during climb out and drain it first. After it is dry, cycle back to automatic fuel management with the drop tank in white and drop it when engaging.
If you do get low and in trouble, the P-40 scissors very nicely.
-
Thanks feel free to keep the suggestions coming:)
-
Pretend it's a P47
-
Look up Makoshrk in the MA. He is uber in a P-40...
-
Originally posted by Logan6
I am looking for any tips or pointers on how to stay alive in this plane.
Dude, don't just stay alive, clobber those 109s.
P-40E turns very well, especially with flaps. As with any plane, you don't want to leave your flaps down too long; the people who suggest that you fly the 40E like a 47 impart wisdom, although the P-40 really turns very well. Give up on the notion that you can outclimb any of your opponents in that plane set. Watch your energy - the P-40E does a fairly good job of picking it back up, so take advantage of any few seconds to level the wings and get the nose down a bit. Practice your vertical turns, but vertical DOWN, not up. You have lots of ammo and good long range guns, take advantage of them.
If you can find 1Duke1 in AvA (or here, for that matter), ask him for tips, he has become legendary in the P-40E.
- oldman
-
Not much experience in this bird, but it is fun to use the great diving abilities to swoop into a furball at 400+ when everyone figures your a slowpoke by your icon.
-
Originally posted by Rolex
There is a noticeable difference in handling once the fuselage tank is dry, so I suggest you carry a drop tank and 50% fuel, then switch to the fuselage tank (Shift + F until tank is in yellow) during climb out and drain it first. After it is dry, cycle back to automatic fuel management with the drop tank in white and drop it when engaging.
Why not just take 25% and DT? That's all that you've accomplished here. It's not which tank you drain that is helping you, it's the fact that you're almost out of gas and many hundreds of pounds lighter than the normal combat load this plane would carry. That's what makes it feel like a better plane.
Then again, you get the same results in ANY plane in this game if you only take 25%. You pay for it by only getting 1 fight per sortie.
P.S. in scenarios you almost always have to take 100% fuel, because you have a mission to accomplish and need to do it without running out of gas, so that's not an option outside the MA.
-
Originally posted by titanic3
try BnZing.
that will get you NOWHERE. The P-40 loses E faster than you can say United States...
-
What does BnZ mean. I have been playing for a while and don't know what that stands for.
-
Originally posted by Logan6
What does BnZ mean. I have been playing for a while and don't know what that stands for.
there are 3 types of Fighting Styles
Turn/Angles/Stall fighting ( also known as TnB )
Boom and Zoom ( BnZ )
& E - Fighting ( Energy Fighting )
find out more from the Aces High Trainers Website
http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/
-
Krusty, I take 50% and a drop because it leaves me with more fuel than 25% and a drop, and I expect to have more than one fight. ;)
-
Drop tanks add weight, and drag.
Go with 100% then if you can, hit shift+f and change to your wing tanks.
With less fuel in your wing, every plane rolls better.
Take advantage of that, keep hitting Shift+f untill the color turns back to white.
If you do not, you will find your engine cutting out,and never turning back on again. "white is auto tank change"
"Throws two cents"
-
Drop tanks do add weight and drag.
That's why you drop them when combat is imminent. You go from heavy and sluggish to light weight and nimble in the blink of an eye.
You go with full internal tanks into combat you're going to be unneccessarily heavy and slow and in a P40 you'll need all the help you can get.
-
P-40 has good guns, BUT. it takes noting to rip it outa the sky, plus u gotta have alot of alt and speed 2 accually kill something in it, thats why u fly the pretty pwnage plane. the P-47D-40
-
Originally posted by redman555
P-40 has good guns, BUT. it takes noting to rip it outa the sky, plus u gotta have alot of alt and speed 2 accually kill something in it, thats why u fly the pretty pwnage plane. the P-47D-40
actually, the P40E has 6 50s, they are just as good as a P51D , F4U-1, F4U-1A, F4U1D, F4U-4, F6F5 etc etc........
and Logan asked for tips, because he does not have the option to fly the P47D40 , he is flying this plane in a scenario........
Your Energy Management is critical in this plane, do not expend your energy Turning and Burning........ check out DoKGonzo's performance comparison charts ( http://gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php )
using DoKGonzo's performance comparison charts, compare your P40E to the following planes you will be up against:
The Axis has the following:Bf 109G-6's, Bf 109G-2's, FW 190A-5's, Bf 110G-2's, C.205's, Ju 88A-4's, Ju 87D-3's, and C.202's.
Now after Studying /Reviewing find out where your P40E performs as good or better as all these plane types. Next find out where in the flight envelope all these different plane types beat the P40E..........
Once you have done this. Then in every "Weak Area" work out some wingman tactics / group tactics to overcome these weaknesses.......this is how you go about doing it when talking about Scenarios.......
hope this helps.......
-
Spot on, TC!
Now, Sir, in your spare time, will you teach me to fly a Corsair?
-
Thank for the tips. The scenario beta was an eye opener. I got into a high alt dog fight witha group of 109's. I did well until I menuever and the darn plane went into a flat spin. I could not recover and crashed:( . The flat spin occured twice. I was able to recover only once. The p40 stinks at alt above 14k or so. I did damage a 109 and klilled a 110 I think.
-
Originally posted by Patches1
Spot on, TC!
Now, Sir, in your spare time, will you teach me to fly a Corsair?
will do my best to catch you online, also if you run into them or see them look for Saxman, AKDogg, Sirlion, Widewing, Badboy, Vudak to name a few other good Hog flyers......( or should I say Better Hog flyers )
look for me in the AvsA at times also this week.........is a pacific type plane matchup.......
-
Originally posted by Logan6
Thank for the tips. The scenario beta was an eye opener. I got into a high alt dog fight witha group of 109's. I did well until I menuever and the darn plane went into a flat spin. I could not recover and crashed:( . The flat spin occured twice. I was able to recover only once. The p40 stinks at alt above 14k or so. I did damage a 109 and klilled a 110 I think.
Logan6,
you can load the Training arena Terrain offline, and practice flying the P40E from one of the 20K alt or 30K alt bases...take 30 minutes or say a few times a week before frame starts and really put the P40E thru its paces at high alt.so you get comfortable with how it reacts up high........
also do a search for Widewings post on High Alt Air Combat/flying
-
Thanks, TC!
I am usually am online from about 0700-1100 PDT USA.