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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Larry on May 31, 2007, 10:14:47 PM
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Ill be reporting your abuse of the CM privileges. I said nothing wrong to get muted for 60mins. Its sad they let someone like you mute someone for something like this. Just becuase I say something that you dont like doesnt give you the right to mute me. Let it be known that what he and I wrote were entered within less the a second of each other. Muting some one is for when they are out of line. What did I say that was outa line?
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TK, no side picking here, but you did get a warning. It is right there in your screen shot...........
just let it go, nothing good to come of this
edit: it should also be known, that sometimes when a player gets muted, the one doing the muting might be unaware of muting for a default time of 60 minutes.......I think this mostly happens when an arena is reset and the default time reverts back to 60 minutes......someone can correct me or will if I am wrong please.......
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First, with Okllok it is always HOing time, so your question was silly. ;)
(Not that there is anything wrong with it, just an observation about his style.)
Second, as an impartial observer, it sure looks like you told Duke to shut up, even though he was in the blue text. In his position, I would have muted you too.
In fact, it took me several re-reads to really determine whether you were directing the "shut up" at Duke or at Bug. I will take you at your word that you were already typing to Bug when the blue text flashed -- but Duke may not have seen it that way.
Or, he may have known it wasn't at him, but since you offerred up a second line after you clearly should have seen the warning, muted you anyway for not heeding it.
Either way, I don't see how any non-involved party could see "abuse of CM powers" here.
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no 1Duke1 is just that way. he will consistently mute members of JG54 regardless of who may start and how many participants are active in a purse fight.
TK just kill him a few times and he whines then logs off.
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I type fast I looked up while typing can saw nothing about geting muted. Hit enter, / type again, enter look up and I was muted. Most people bash me for my misspelled words. I know how to spell its because I type so fast my keyboard cant keep up with me.:aok
I was replying to bug about him reporting me. He has been mad about me telling skuzzy that he was calling me punk and trolling alot of treads.
I was about two words away from the first line when I looked up to see if I was cut off yet. When I say my two lines and dukes were within one second of each other I really mean it. Theres no way he could have thought I was talking to him. I didnt even say that Bug was trolling and trying to make me lash out at him for awhile. Everything I said he had a nice little rude comment he had to put in. Most of them ending with "TrueSqueal".
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I arrived later. Okllok was still hoing. Someone else was complaining. Bugger was tweaking the guy who was complaining. Duke was typing in blue. Complainer logged. Bugger wtg'd Okllok for getting someone to log.
Thing is it was all so boring, unoriginal, and devoid of humor.
(Sigh)...I miss Storch
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I have no doubt you two were at each others throats, likely for a considerable time.
I also have no doubt that if he had been the one to respond as you did, he would have been the one muted.
So, again, from the outside, there does not appear to be any favoritism or abuse here.
Sorry, friend, but this will be a losing battle for you if you choose to continue it.
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I'll most likly get PNGed for the fist post so it really doesnt matter. That was the only tiem that night that I went off like that. Which is more then I could say about Bug. He talks smack to try to get you to leave then calls you "trash" when you say something back. I HOed ONCE tonight when there were about SIX enemys buzing down on me and for the rest of the night bug was saying I was HOing. okllok and I were alone he just went right for it. As I said before from the point bug came into the AvA tonight he was trolling trying to get me to say something. I told him to goto the TA, to shut up and I called him a noob. NONE of those should get you muted.
That screenshot shows all that I said after "lashing out" at him.
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Originally posted by KONG1
I arrived later. Okllok was still hoing. Someone else was complaining. Bugger was tweaking the guy who was complaining. Duke was typing in blue. Complainer logged. Bugger wtg'd Okllok for getting someone to log.
Thing is it was all so boring, unoriginal, and devoid of humor.
(Sigh)...I miss Storch
And they blame storch for making people not want to go into the AvA. Atlease storch backs up his words with bullets. All bug does is talk crap and die. Only Kills he has EVER got on me were gangs and picks. 1v1 bug is the easiest person Iv ever shot down.
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no biting or scratching girls ...
seriously, get over yourselves - all of you - you sound like little girls and posting this crap does nothing positive for the arena.
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TK, Fly more, type less & no worries of being muted again :aok
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Just an opinion here but I've always found it best in the online world to take personal animus towards anyone to the private message area. From a psychological standpoint when somebody, for lack of a better phrase, 'calls out' someone else in front of their peers it is human nature to retort in kind. Generally this denegrates into a name calling purse fight that nobody 'wins'.
I've got no dog in this fight as I think equally well of Truekill and The Bug.
A suggestion would be for Truekill and Bug to take it to pm's and work out the differences if possible.
As has been observed the public displays of animus do nothing positive for the arena which I think has been showing some really good indications of growing into something we can all be proud of and happy to be a part of.
Lastly... I miss Storch too.
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Originally posted by Eagler
no biting or scratching girls ...
seriously, get over yourselves - all of you - you sound like little girls and posting this crap does nothing positive for the arena.
Heh. As always, a good point is made by Eagler.
I wasn't there last night (daughter has been home from college this week, and, much as I enjoy flying with you weenies, you don't win THAT competition). Nevertheless, may I please take this convenient opportunity to make a few points?
First: TK, while I appreciate that you think you were treated unfairly, keep it in perspective. The worst that happened was that you couldn't talk publicly for an hour.
Second: I think (I'm not SURE, but I THINK) that you guys left junior high school behind some time ago. We have observed, over a period of years now, that there is a very small handful of people that gets into this kind of buffer-clogging, eye-scratching, earring-pulling purse fighting. You know who you are, and WE know who you are. No one likes to read this stuff. No one who reads it thinks you're more manly. It is irritating and unpleasant, and those who insist on engaging in trash talking - and, as I said, you aren't alone here - are being selfish.
Third: There is an unspoken, but increasingly strong sentiment among the staff that our patience for this has become very limited. Very limited. We've had too many people tell us, publicly and privately, over a span of YEARS, that they avoid the AvA because of this kind of bickering, which assumes a disproportionate prominence because our numbers are comparatively so small. It is easy to sympathize with these people. It is not easy to sympathize with people who are being disruptive.
So: I encourage everyone to please just stuff a sock in it. You're going to find people who hover above the fight, dive to take the pick or the HO, run to ack, run to friends, and do other things that you might justly consider to be unsportsmanlike. When this happens, yell at your dog, or at your pet hamster, whatever works, but please keep it to yourself.
- oldman
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yes eagler has a good point it's at the top of his head. this works well for two reasons
1. it makes it easier to peer through a keyhole with both eyes simultaneously
2. he's useful for sewing popped shirt buttons when I get all chest puffy
I like eagler he's a useful member
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Heh. As always, a good point is made by Eagler.
I would say that Eagler called names "little girls" and refered to other people's free expression of thought as "crap". What you refer to as a "good point" is actually just more of the same.
Your judgment is subjective not objective.
200 is a optional channel where .squelch TK and .squelch Bugger works fine. There should be a well defined set of rules against profanity and racial/ethnic/religous slurs, and that's all. That stuff irritates me too, but I shouldn't have to explain why it's bad to have thought police with dictatorial powers.
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Originally posted by Oldman731
There is an unspoken, but increasingly strong sentiment among the staff that our patience for this has become very limited. Very limited. We've had too many people tell us, publicly and privately, over a span of YEARS, that they avoid the AvA because of this kind of bickering, which assumes a disproportionate prominence because our numbers are comparatively so small. It is easy to sympathize with these people. It is not easy to sympathize with people who are being disruptive.
(1)As CMs you should setup the arena and moderate according to some well defined set of parameters. Your "patience" should be irrelevant and your "sympathies" kept to yourselves. I believe the philosophical concept I'm trying to express is called "rule of law". We don't need "rule of how I'm feeling right now".
(2)The AvA has the tamest text buffer in the game. The reasons people give are often(scratch that - usually) not the real reasons. Don't be so gullible as to believe that tripe. An analysis of the real reasons would make for a very long post and potentially interesting thread.
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I'm willing to go there. the reason is that the only squad that ever beat us in the AvA were the blue knights . even then we almost gave as good as we got. the really excellent players were morph, stang and leviathn. the rest were easily had. IIRC the numbers were pretty even.
some of the others just could not and cannot compete with four JG54 players flying historically in our preferred rides.
they get whacked and their frail egos do not allow them to return.
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Originally posted by Oldman731
I encourage everyone to please just stuff a sock in it. You're going to find people who hover above the fight, dive to take the pick or the HO, run to ack, run to friends, and do other things that you might justly consider to be unsportsmanlike. When this happens, yell at your dog, or at your pet hamster, whatever works, but please keep it to yourself.
I could tell you to stuff a panty hose in it but that would be stooping.
You are not the dictator of culture. The culture of any group is defined by how the group reacts to particular behaviors not by edict.
Example: No rule against vulching in the AvA, it rarely happens because players get called out for it and publicly derided by both sides. If most players wanted vulching then the complainers would be derided and vulching would be the norm.
To not discourage is to encourage. If dweeby behavior is not discouraged dweebs will stay, more dweebs will come, soon we would have more players but a MA culture. Hey, if it happens it happens but we don't need to consent by silence.
I don't expect a bunch of players who will up in any plane, against any odds, with various disadvantages and charge into the fight get shot down and charge right back in to be touchy-feelly, but rather determined competitors. If someone is so emotionally and mentally weak as to be upset by text (that can be turned off) they probably won't be much fun to fight against anyway.
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Originally posted by storch
no 1Duke1 is just that way. he will consistently mute members of JG54 regardless of who may start and how many participants are active in a purse fight.
TK just kill him a few times and he whines then logs off.
I think the default setting for any JG54 member should be muted and fighters not available :D
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Originally posted by storch
some of the others just could not and cannot compete with four JG54 players flying historically in our preferred rides.
Well, avoiding 4 HOers at the same time can be kind of hard budy. However, lets try it. You pick 4 of your best and I will pick me, we go to the DA and see what happens hehehe :lol
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Originally posted by storch
I'm willing to go there. the reason is that the only squad that ever beat us in the AvA were the blue knights . even then we almost gave as good as we got. the really excellent players were morph, stang and leviathn. the rest were easily had. IIRC the numbers were pretty even.
some of the others just could not and cannot compete with four JG54 players flying historically in our preferred rides.
:rofl
You need some Ginkgo, you have a poor memory.
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OM 200 is a tunable channel. If you dont like what your reading untune from it. Thats what its there for. If a CMs patience limited thats thier problem, and souldnt be taken out on others. Bug and I were bickering on 200, we wernt talking about each others moms, cursing, being racial, we where bickering nothing more nothing less. If we were geting on your nerves thats what squelch and untuning from 200 is for. Nothing I said was worth being muted over be it for 10mins or an hour.
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Originally posted by Larry
OM 200 is a tunable channel. If you dont like what your reading untune from it. Thats what its there for. If a CMs patience limited thats thier problem, and souldnt be taken out on others. Bug and I were bickering on 200, we wernt talking about each others moms, cursing, being racial, we where bickering nothing more nothing less. If we were geting on your nerves thats what squelch and untuning from 200 is for. Nothing I said was worth being muted over be it for 10mins or an hour.
Actually, this doesn't work in this arena TK. We don't have Channel One, so 200 is the common channel. We can change that, as you know.
If we changed it, do you suppose that you and others would carry out your diatribes on something other than Channel One?
- oldman
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Originally posted by KONG1
I could tell you to stuff a panty hose in it but that would be stooping.
I'm waiting to see if anyone else has an opinion on this topic, Kong. It is possible that more people agree with you than agree with me.
In the meantime, the "rule of law" argument doesn't carry far with me. We're all old enough to know what constitutes bullying or taunting. Most of us are old enough to recognize that a competitive spirit doesn't require the yell-at-the-dark taunting to stay competitive - at least, I think that's so. I see people trying it every day in real life; it works on the weak, and no one else. Some of the very best pilots in this game are positively mild-mannered - Lev and Soulyss come immediately to mind. I think it would be unwise to try to define "taunting" or "rudeness" beyond their well-known meanings. I also suspect that, if we did this, there is a group of people which would do everything possible to push that line. I still don't understand why, but I believe that it's true.
I don't want the MA replicated in AvA any more than you do, but I don't think that the solution is to tolerate nastiness in hopes that you can drive away the people who don't suit your own tastes.
- oldman
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Actually, this doesn't work in this arena TK. We don't have Channel One, so 200 is the common channel. We can change that, as you know.
If we changed it, do you suppose that you and others would carry out your diatribes on something other than Channel One?
I always use ch. 200. Even some weeks when ch. 1 is enabled I use it. If we said what we did on ch. 1 I could see muting us but not on a channel that you choose to tune to. That is why HT made it if you dont like whats being said on it you dont have to stay on it. Same is true with the MA.
Originally posted by Oldman731
I don't want the MA replicated in AvA any more than you do, but I don't think that the solution is to tolerate nastiness in hopes that you can drive away the people who don't suit your own tastes.
Wow that sounds JUST like bug. All he does is try to piss people off trying to make them leave AvA. Calling them "trash that needs to be swept out." When in fact hes the one that needs to be "swept out".
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Originally posted by Oldman731
I'm waiting to see if anyone else has an opinion on this topic, Kong. It is possible that more people agree with you than agree with me.
I find that highly unlikely.
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Do you even play anymore?
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Nope, and its things like this that convince me not to come back every time I forget why I lost interest.
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Then why are you still here?
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Well that didn't take long, did it?
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Originally posted by Larry
Wow that sounds JUST like bug. All he does is try to piss people off trying to make them leave AvA. Calling them "trash that needs to be swept out." When in fact hes the one that needs to be "swept out".
Not people, it's just one person now. To keep the facts straight.
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Originally posted by TheBug
Not people, it's just one person now. To keep the facts straight.
One person? Get YOUR facts straight?
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Originally posted by Larry
Then why are you still here?
I have not canceled my account if that is what you mean. Just because I dont play every day, or for even months at a time does not mean I am unaware of how certain individuals behave.
For example, I know without playing in quite a while that Eagler will fight all night and not say much. I know Oldman will fight anybody and everybody and usually in the "worst" plane he can up. There are others of a negative nature that I could use but you get the idea.
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TK.
This started within 10 minutes of you logging in. To be exact it started within seconds of the first time you got shot down. You started complaining about ganging immediatly. The fact is everybody got ganged on both sides Thursday night. The nature of the fights were that sooner or later one side would be down to one or two pilots facing 5 or 6 because the rest were shot down and re-uping, or RTB. Everybody else on both sides understood and dealt with it without complaining. You had to start on 200 immediatly.
Each time you got shot down you had to make sure a complaint, excuse or insult, came across the buffer. Your own screenshot is evidence of this.
I didn't see one HO all night, I know a couple of P-38 pilots executed some very nice high angle shots on me, but they were not HO's. There were 1 or 2 fairly new guys in there, one didn't know enough about the aircraft to know the 190F was a jabo plane. A guy flying Allied was kind enough to point this out to him. That's the kind of stuff we need coming across 200, not the whining and complaining.
I have no doubt Duke would have squelched Bug as well, had Bug typed another barb in your direction. I wouldn't have blamed him for it , doesn't matter if Bugs a squad mate or not. You just had the missfortune of being so caught up in your diatribe you didn't see Dukes warning. That's your fault.
All this talk of how sheltered, or wimpy people are because they can't handle the 200 smack talk is just crap. There's nothing tough, or impressive about a loud mouth that taunts and insults from the safety of the internet. It's just a sad cry for attention, nothing more. People that detest this kind of behavior are not metrosexuals that get scared of you internet tough guys.
They're mature adults who more than likely have faced real conflict in their lives and see this for what it is. Candya** childish behavior.
Personally I don't care what you uber smack talkers say anymore. It has no affect on me other than the dissappointment of driving people out of my favorite arena.
However it seems there are prices to be paid for this kind of behavior. If your so tough and macho you have to do this. Be tough and macho enough to face the consiquences without starting yet another thread that makes the AVA look like a Leper Colony.
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Originally posted by Oldman731
In the meantime, the "rule of law" argument doesn't carry far with me.
:huh
We're all old enough to know what constitutes bullying or taunting. Most of us are old enough to recognize that a competitive spirit doesn't require the yell-at-the-dark taunting to stay competitive - at least, I think that's so.
I agree with this, we seem to advocate different remedies.
There is the we need "judges", "high priests","arbiters of correctness", "deciders" which use their power to dole out justice.
I believe the "we" who are all "old enough to know" can each decide for ourselves. The .squelch will immediately and effectively relieve one of any unpleasantness. If everyone is in agreement, the provocateurs will find themselves in complete social isolation and their ability to annoy/bully/taunt neutered.
Recently, Imus stepped out of cultural bounds with his nappy headed ho comment. He suffered social justice and cultural punishment. The "government" did not punished him nor did it protect him from the cultural consequences.
Now back to thread.
TK is quite capable of dealing with assaults from TheBug and has every right to do so. If you think you have the right not to hear it, you are correct and you don't have to, just squelch. If Duke wants to play "referee" then he needs to send them both to the "penalty box" for fighting. Remember that this "referee" is also a player and has instigated his own little text buffer squabbles.
So lets just cut the crap, that was obviously a little power play on Dukes part.
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
just let it go, nothing good to come of this
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Ah yes my complaining. I was in a 1v1 after swiching because numbers were uneven. Great turn fight then the 880 "can only get a kill if its 5v1 guys came in-a-hording. I heard about 3 zooming engines before I died. After that I said "man this is ganna get old fast". Complaining no more like a comment but here comes bug with is smartass saying "dont like it leave". I then said "then who would you guys gang up on?", after one more of his smartass comments I told him Im not even ganna bother with him.
Next things I said on 200 were atlease 15mins later talking to Bolt. Then I was getting ganged AGAIN and trukjr poped my fuel, about 10secs later my engines cut out. So I go level so he can kill me, but he waits and gets about 150m away from my 6, about that time someone droped in on him and killed him. I said "LMAO" "that was funny truk" he then said "its funnier that you needed him to save youre butt", I then said I didnt need anyone" "i ran outa gas because of the fuel leak" "you took to long for the shot and he killed you" "the only reason you got on me is because I was busy with the other 6". I have that part films if you want to see. I did HO I think twice in that sortie, (but since I was out heavly outnumbered anyone will tell you its okay).
About 10mins later bug said "truesqueal HOin" "no way" after I killed trukjr again. It wasnt a HO I have that on film also if you want it. I said "huh?", he then said I know I know..... your ganna tell on me", d0ma said "comeon enough of this crap please", I then said "he will never let it go". Thats about where the films ends because I discoed. When I reloged I forgot I was recording and didnt start again. I remember nothing else happened untill a few sorties in, I come upon a enemy (forgot if it was 109 or 190). Like most 1v1s they start with a merge and then fight, Okllok (which is the bigest dweeb Iv ever seen in the AvA) waits untill we are about 300m apart and then gets a nice shot in. You know the rest.
Bottem line is as I said before muteing is for being really rude or cursing. NOT becuase the CM on is in a bad mode and doesnt want to untune from 200. Ch 1 used to always be enabled untill the CMs changed it. I dont know why they did but its not my fault you tune to it and cant handle whats being said. When someone is bickering on 200 in the MA what do you do? Eather squelch them or untune you dont report them (unless for the reasons Iv already listed). If duke cant handle the trash talk and is "fed up" or stressed out about it then mabey he should retire from being a CM, or squelch me and other he doesnt want to put up with when he enters an arena.
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TK,
Your calling people dweebs, and smarta** and just cooking off. You're mad at Duke and Bug , now you're attacking Okllok? He did nothing more than shoot you down.
It's really not that big of deal , it's been over for nearly 48 hours now. Let it go. There's nobody I know of who has never been played without being shot down. You seem to take getting shotdown as an insult. It's all part of the game. Take a deep breath and back away from the keyboard. It's not worth all this stuff.:)
Listen top TC......... Let it go man.
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Originally posted by Shifty
now you're attacking Okllok? He did nothing more than shoot you down.
You must have never seen him in the arena then. Would you like me to tell you what he does? When theres a good 1v1 he doesnt even ask if you need help he just zooms in and picks. ALOT! He milks when noone else is on (not that its bad but sometimes I catch him doing it to "out of play" countrys). A few weeks ago he asked why he couldnt sink a CV (another mid day milk running). If you get into a 1v1 with him he runs to ack. Hes what I call a "MAtard" bringing MA flying into the AvA.
Edit: WOW I didnt know you could say "ass" I thought I was one of those "badwords"
Edit again: What Im really POed about is you guys blame me and storch for our "trash talking" in the game and the forums, but you guys yet to notice that bug is worst then him and I combined. Only difference his he trys to be sly about it.
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Originally posted by Shifty
All this talk of how sheltered, or wimpy people are because they can't handle the 200 smack talk is just crap. There's nothing tough, or impressive about a loud mouth that taunts and insults from the safety of the internet. It's just a sad cry for attention, nothing more. People that detest this kind of behavior are not metrosexuals that get scared of you internet tough guys.
Read and understand this paragraph.
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There's nothing you can do in the game that makes you a tough guy. You are not brave for flying into hordes, you are not mighty for being adept at a game. You are not heroic for sacrificing your virtual self to save virtual others. There is no pain or death. Big words don't make you a big man, tough words don't make you a tough guy. I absolutely, positively, whole hearted agree with all of that.
On the other hand ...
If you are upset by anonymous typing by tards on the internet you definitely, absolutely, undeniably have problems. It demonstrates an emotional and intellectual weakness which in all and complete fairness could be called weak minded or wimpy or whatever.
Now don't get me wrong ....
I'm a nice guy. When around weak and wimpy people I try very hard to be as nice and sweet as I can be, treating their fragile egos as gently as a new born kitten. This, of course, in no way changes the fact that they are weak and wimpy people.
Just sayin'...
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And another thing.....
In all the proliferate pontificating in these preposterous postings I have yet to see anyone refute the penultimate perfect solution provided by the wisdom of the great and mighty HTC.
This solution has limited effectiveness when there are are hundreds of tards being tardlings all at the same time. But in the realm of the AvA where the numbers are limited it insures that no one ever has to read or hear from players they don't want to.
90% of this thread becomes absurd and preposterous in light of this perfect solution. If a tard types in a text buffer that does not display, does it make any sound? I say no.
Here, let me show you how it's done: / .squelch Grits
Problem-a-solved :D
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Originally posted by KONG1
If a tard types in a text buffer that does not display, does it make any sound? I say no.
Here, let me show you how it's done: / .squelch Grits
Problem-a-solved :D
One of the nice things about the AvA - about all arenas, really - is that you can speak to the people on the other side. By default, people have adopted channel 200 to do this. Why not turn your solution around a bit: If someone wants to mouth off on the text buffer, could he not do it by personal message just as effectively as by posting on 200? Of course he could, but then no one else in the arena would see how clever he is.
Haven't really received a response to my question to TK. If we enable channel one - which is easy to do - so that people can talk to each other, would those who so jealously guard their right to be rude stay off channel one, and confine their verbal jousting to, say, channel 200? Your squelch would work fine then, they could be promptly bounced if they abused channel one, all would be sun and joy.
- oldman
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(edit - this posted before I read Oldman's reply above)...
While it might not be mandatory to tune in to 200, we (AvA staff) would like to keep it civil. I might not have muted either Bug or TK for those lines above, but I don't see Duke being impartial or against TK... Just my view on it, opinions may vary. TheBug and Truekill, keep it down, we could use all the players we get in there, don't frighten anyone away, please.
Just let it go, nothing good to come of this
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Originally posted by KONG1
There's nothing you can do in the game that makes you a tough guy. You are not brave for flying into hordes, you are not mighty for being adept at a game. You are not heroic for sacrificing your virtual self to save virtual others. There is no pain or death. Big words don't make you a big man, tough words don't make you a tough guy. I absolutely, positively, whole hearted agree with all of that.
On the other hand ...
If you are upset by anonymous typing by tards on the internet you definitely, absolutely, undeniably have problems. It demonstrates an emotional and intellectual weakness which in all and complete fairness could be called weak minded or wimpy or whatever.
I dont disagree Kong, but I think you are coming at it from 180 degrees the wrong direction. If there were no intardnet bullies typing insults in the first place then there would be no reason for the "weak and wimpy" to get their feelings hurt. The "weak and wimpy" dont bother anybody, they dont throw insults, they dont browbeat other players, bullies do.
The bullies are the ones who should change their behavior, not the remaining majority of the player base.
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Originally posted by KONG1
And another thing.....
90% of this thread becomes absurd and preposterous in light of this perfect solution. If a tard types in a text buffer that does not display, does it make any sound? I say no.
Here, let me show you how it's done: / .squelch Grits
Problem-a-solved :D
Most of my squaddies can attest to the effectiveness of that .command. :)
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Originally posted by Oldman731
One of the nice things about the AvA - about all arenas, really - is that you can speak to the people on the other side. By default, people have adopted channel 200 to do this. Why not turn your solution around a bit: If someone wants to mouth off on the text buffer, could he not do it by personal message just as effectively as by posting on 200? Of course he could, but then no one else in the arena would see how clever he is.
- oldman
Pretty much what I've said earlier Oldman. Look guys I've modded and admin'd sites that make the chatter on 200 and the chest thumping on these boards look like a kindergarden pushing contest so it really doesn't bother me in any way, shape, or form.
That said I've found the most effective method to stop things from getting out of hand as a mod or an admin is to tell the parties in question to take it to pm's ONCE and if they didn't then I bounced them. After a while the offending parties either got the message or left. Great if the did and no great loss if they left.
I'm not about to question any of the staff on the way they do their jobs because I've been there. You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
I'm just making a suggestion here that if people want to hurl invective at each other to take it to pm's or another channel. As I said previously most of these 200 fights and forum battles start and drag out because someone gets called out in front of their peers and that, in general, automatically puts them on the defensive whereas discussing it privately has more of an opportunity to come to a common understanding.
Of course good natured ribbing on 200 is always a laugh particularly when its aimed at me. I laugh at myself all the time I expect the rest of you guys to join in every now and then. If Bug shoots me down 3 times in a row (like you did the other night you rotton !#@%!!$%!%! :) ) I start looking at my plane skin for the 'kill me' sign.
Anyway that's just my opinions for what they're worth. *shrug*
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Um, hi! I like pie...
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*throws one at you :p
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Originally posted by Grits
The "weak and wimpy" dont bother anybody, they dont throw insults, they dont browbeat other players
They whine and complain and expect everyone to adapt to them as they try to drag us all into their weak wimpy pc happy-talk world.
:furious
I specially like punkin pie
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Why not turn your solution around a bit: If someone wants to mouth off on the text buffer, could he not do it by personal message just as effectively as by posting on 200? Of course he could, but then no one else in the arena would see how clever he is.
It's my self reliant nature. If I don't like what someone is typing my solution allows me to solve my problem. Your solution requires someone else to solve my problem. My way can always be implemented quickly and effectively, and is under my control.
Chocolate pie's pretty good too.
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This discussion would be gripping if only we were talking about a form of government; it seems pretty silly considering what is acutally being argued.
Of course, you're talking to a person who prefers almonds to walnuts in their ice cream.
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Don't take this off track 2X4, were talkin bout pie!
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Originally posted by VWE
Don't take this off track 2X4, were talkin bout pie!
mmmmmm.....floor pie.:p
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Originally posted by VWE
Don't take this off track 2X4, were talkin bout pie!
I vote Key Lime in that case. It is the best of all pies and that fact is not arguable.
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Why does it seem key lime is only offered at sea food places?
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Cherry cheescake :)
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American Pie !
(http://www.offoffoff.com/film/1999/images/americanbeauty.jpg)
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Originally posted by KONG1
American Pie !
(http://www.offoffoff.com/film/1999/images/americanbeauty.jpg)
Now that's pie!:aok
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One email. All issues: >>> support@hitechreations.com
I also do not appreciate any trolling/bashing of the volunteer AvA staff, especially since all of you all know how to contact us.
The rules also state to email HTC support. In the future, the AvA staff would appreciate that all players adhere to the policies and procedures set out by the HTC staff.