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Title: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: Pannono on June 01, 2007, 12:53:02 PM
This would be a nice addition to the Soviet aircraft fleet

The Bell P-63 Kingcobra was an American fighter developed in World War II from the P-39 Airacobra in an attempt to correct that aircraft's deficiencies. Although the aircraft was not accepted for combat use by the USAAF, it was successfully adopted by the Soviet Air Force.

The P-63 had an impressive roll rate, besting the P-47, P-40, N1K2 and P-51 with a rate of 110° at 275 mph.

Manufacturer: Bell Aircraft Corporation
Maiden flight: 7 December 1942
Introduced: October 1943
Primary users: United States Army Air Force, Soviet Air Force ,French Air Force
Produced: 1943-1945
Number built: 3,303
Developed from: P-39 Airacobra

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 32 ft 8 in (10.0 m)
Wingspan: 38 ft 4 in (11.7 m)
Height: 12 ft 7 in (3.8 m)
Wing area: 248 ft² (23 m²)
Empty weight: 6,800 lb (3,100 kg)
Loaded weight: 8,800 lb (4,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 10,700 lb (4,900 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Allison V-1710-117 liquid-cooled V-12, 1,800 hp (1,340 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 410 mph (660 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,620 m)
Range: Combat: 450 mi (725 km)  Ferry: 2,200 mi (3,540 km)
Service ceiling: 43,000 ft (13,100 m)
Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)
Armament
1× 37 mm T9 cannon firing through the propeller hub
4× 0.50 in (12.7mm) machine guns (2 in the nose, 2 in the wings)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-63_Kingcobra
Title: Re: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: Spikes on June 01, 2007, 06:17:52 PM
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Originally posted by Pannono
This would be a nice addition to the Soviet aircraft fleet

The Bell P-63 Kingcobra was an American fighter developed in World War II from the P-39 Airacobra in an attempt to correct that aircraft's deficiencies. Although the aircraft was not accepted for combat use by the USAAF, it was successfully adopted by the Soviet Air Force.

The P-63 had an impressive roll rate, besting the P-47, P-40, N1K2 and P-51 with a rate of 110° at 275 mph.

Manufacturer: Bell Aircraft Corporation
Maiden flight: 7 December 1942
Introduced: October 1943
Primary users: United States Army Air Force, Soviet Air Force ,French Air Force
Produced: 1943-1945
Number built: 3,303
Developed from: P-39 Airacobra

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 32 ft 8 in (10.0 m)
Wingspan: 38 ft 4 in (11.7 m)
Height: 12 ft 7 in (3.8 m)
Wing area: 248 ft² (23 m²)
Empty weight: 6,800 lb (3,100 kg)
Loaded weight: 8,800 lb (4,000 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 10,700 lb (4,900 kg)
Powerplant: 1× Allison V-1710-117 liquid-cooled V-12, 1,800 hp (1,340 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 410 mph (660 km/h) at 25,000 ft (7,620 m)
Range: Combat: 450 mi (725 km)  Ferry: 2,200 mi (3,540 km)
Service ceiling: 43,000 ft (13,100 m)
Rate of climb: 2,500 ft/min (12.7 m/s)
Armament
1× 37 mm T9 cannon firing through the propeller hub
4× 0.50 in (12.7mm) machine guns (2 in the nose, 2 in the wings)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-63_Kingcobra



Yup. we will never get it, but. Yup.
Title: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: nirvana on June 01, 2007, 09:42:35 PM
Yes indeedy, I wouldn't make a habit of quoting articles from wikipedia without double checking 1 or 2 other sites though.
Title: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: Makoyouidiot on June 02, 2007, 02:45:36 PM
Unfortunately, we'd only get the P-63 if we get the P-39 first...and since P-39 lost out to the B-25/Ben Affleck dweebfanboys....

Oh well, I would have loved to see both of them ingame. :(
Title: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: Wes14 on June 02, 2007, 05:05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Makoyouidiot
Unfortunately, we'd only get the P-63 if we get the P-39 first...and since P-39 lost out to the B-25/Ben Affleck dweebfanboys....

Oh well, I would have loved to see both of them ingame. :(


agreed
Title: Re: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: Panzzer on June 02, 2007, 07:43:38 PM
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Originally posted by Pannono
..., it was successfully adopted by the Soviet Air Force.
It wasn't, they didn't get that many to serve against Germany. See Red Stars vol 4 (Lend-Lease) by Geust & Petrov (ISBN 952502623X).

Airacobra, please. :)
Title: Re: Re: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: tedrbr on June 04, 2007, 12:21:35 AM
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Originally posted by Panzzer
It wasn't, they didn't get that many to serve against Germany. See Red Stars vol 4 (Lend-Lease) by Geust & Petrov (ISBN 952502623X).

Airacobra, please. :)


Actually, most of the King Cobras made went to the Soviet Air Force.  There was an agreement with America that the Russians not use the King Cobra along their western front against Germany, but they went and did it unofficially by many accounts.  
As Soviets tended to downplay the Lend Lease airplanes, and hype their home build aircraft, many accounts differ at that time, and the accuracy of those accounts comes into question.

As the Soviets took possession of 2,400 P-63's, chances are good that many ended up over Germany, agreement, or no agreement.
Title: P-63 Kingcobra
Post by: Gulp on June 06, 2007, 02:51:26 PM
Fair enough, when we get it ;) , skin it to resemble a standard Russian P-39 like the Russians probably did.  I want something on my desk in 2 weeks.