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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Jack16 on June 03, 2007, 08:07:03 PM
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(http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1094_1180918894_grandslamamazonorsampson22kbombs3.jpg)[/IMG] :O :O :O :O :O :O
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What??? You've never seen a tallboy???and Grandslam???
The GS at the local museum seemed much fatter....
OG
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The only question I have is???? Is that Barnes Wallace standing with his Masterpieces???
OG
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I'll bet that he had a small weenie, LOL!!!!
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I heard that Tall Boy and Grand Slam were big. But I didn't know that BIG.:eek:
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I think the one on the right is the American versions of the Grand Slam? (T-12?) It has less girth :)
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I thought the british Grand Slam and Fat Boy were more shorter and fatter, can any brit plane (Or any plane) even carry that?
Beat the Dora railroad gun (80 cm shell) The Schwerer Gustav 80cm was used but I am sure we wont get it
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/43215446_39041801b0.jpg)
(http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/images/Railguns/Dora/GUN04.JPG)
Anyways. Wow that bomb is big :O :noid
But I doubt the release of it, "Nothing over 4,000 lb's" according to HTC
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Originally posted by Jack16
(http://[img]http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1094_1180918894_grandslamamazonorsampson22kbombs3.jpg)[/IMG] :O :O :O :O :O :O
NO, NO, NO, and last and not least NO. HTC said no bomb bigger than the 4k bomb will be release. not now, not ever... maybe in 20 years.
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Originally posted by Willfly
I thought the british Grand Slam and Fat Boy were more shorter and fatter, can any brit plane (Or any plane) even carry that?
Beat the Dora railroad gun (80 cm shell)
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/43215446_39041801b0.jpg)
(http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/images/Railguns/Dora/GUN04.JPG)
i'm not sure if it was used in World war two, but in world war 1, heck yes.
but i know we'll NEVER get it. (wishing for the 88mm flak thought)
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Originally posted by titanic3
i'm not sure if it was used in World war two, but in world war 1, heck yes.
but i know we'll NEVER get it. (wishing for the 88mm flak thought)
These railroad guns such as the Dora and Schwerer Gustav werent even built in WWI, but railroad guns were used
PS.: I could use the 88 to
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Originally posted by Willfly
I thought the british Grand Slam and Fat Boy were more shorter and fatter, can any brit plane (Or any plane) even carry that?
You mean Grand Slam and Tallboy.
That one on the left looks like a Grand Slam. Lancasters were the only aircraft to carry them operationally.
(http://www.overpressure.com/gslam.jpg)
(http://www.constable.ca/gsdrop.jpg)
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yes the Lancaster carried the 12k tallboy, and the 24k Grand slam...
Both were used during the war...
There wouldn't be a real "Bang", just an incredible shaking, enough to shake your teeth out!!!! At least thats what they were designed to do....
Have you seen the video of the tallboys that were dropped on the Tirpitz, incredible video... One of the tallboys went right thru the battleship, and exploded deep in th bottom of the fjord, blew the ships seams out... Tirpitz go blub blub blub!!!
And yes the 800cm railgun was used during WW2... I'm not sure which one, I think it was "Dora", was used during the seige of Sevastapol....
There is video of that as well, arial movies taken from a fieseler storch...
Impressive movie... Shell impacts, on the city... WOW, easy 300ft blasts...
And monster craters...
Then there is Vid of tallboys dropped on Uboat pens in Bremen....
Along with damage vids of the 24ft thick roofs.... Geez, I've never seen so much rebar in my life in that concrete...
OG
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Originally posted by titanic3
NO, NO, NO, and last and not least NO. HTC said no bomb bigger than the 4k bomb will be release. not now, not ever... maybe in 20 years.
You say not ever, then why did you say "Maybe in 20 years"?
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lol Denholm.:lol
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Originally posted by Furball
You mean Grand Slam and Tallboy.
:lol Thanks for clearing the mis hap on the names, I just was not to sure about the size of the grand slam/ tall boy
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It would be funny to drop a Tallboy or GrandSlam on a lone Jeep.
Of course that would be overkill, but who doesnt like that?:D
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These bomb were to go deep into the ground and undermine the foundation of buildings right?
Ither way, make the blast more center, and just have it flip any gv's around it :)
Or track them.
yeah..the day we get these is the day im a chinese jet pilot.
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One tallboy on a Shore Battery? I'd be for that.
Oh, and it WOULD be a loud bang.
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I think "Bang" would be a relative term...
For example;
A tallboy would make a bang, as it passed thru the speed of sound as it fell... I suppose it would go Bang, as it penetrated the ground... And I guess the sound of detonation 100+ feet under the ground, could be considered a "Bang" as well....
But compared to;
An 8000lb Brit Blockbuster, which was a pure Blast type weapon... Designed to level residential Apt blocks, made of masonry and wood... As a prelude to the incendiary bombs... Rubble burns better!!!
It was Pretty much just a tin can, filled with 8000lbs of torpex...
Detonated in the open air... Thats A REAL BANG!!!
OG
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Originally posted by OdinGrunherze
I think "Bang" would be a relative term...
For example;
A tallboy would make a bang, as it passed thru the speed of sound as it fell... I suppose it would go Bang, as it penetrated the ground... And I guess the sound of detonation 100+ feet under the ground, could be considered a "Bang" as well....
But compared to;
An 8000lb Brit Blockbuster, which was a pure Blast type weapon... Designed to level residential Apt blocks, made of masonry and wood... As a prelude to the incendiary bombs... Rubble burns better!!!
It was Pretty much just a tin can, filled with 8000lbs of torpex...
Detonated in the open air... Thats A REAL BANG!!!
OG
the all-known-and-hated Nooky makes a Big Bang!!:t
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More like a BOOM and a rumble.
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more like a poot and grumble
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Originally posted by Willfly
(http://www.aopt91.dsl.pipex.com/railgun/images/Railguns/Dora/GUN04.JPG)
I was watching a show on that monster a few weeks ago.
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My local air base, Lossiemouth (current home of 617 Squadron - the Dam Busters) has them on display, along with an Up Keep (bouncing bomb).
(http://www.computing.dundee.ac.uk/staff/irmurray/pictures/617bombs.jpg)
Note that the Grand Slam is quite a bit longer than the Tall Boy, compared to the OP's pic, suggesting there is something odd about the picture.
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This is going to cause some controversy....
If my books are correct, the RAF carried the Big bombs in their inventory until the mid sixties.... They went thru a few modernizations over the years... The Brits didn't have an aircraft that could lift them up to the optimum Alt of 40k, until the Canberra/B57....
If you notice the old photo, of the single bomb in the building.... The scale seems off a little bit, as compared to your's.... Unless they used a midget in the old photo...
And the one I've seen, seemed much larger as well....
Hmmm, worthy of investigation...
I agree that the first photo, of the 2 bombs hanging, seems a little suspect...
OG
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Its called photo shop....look at the shadows and it should become glaring after that.
I still want one tho!!!:D :t :D
CFYA
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My understanding was that in order to reach the proper impact velocity against re enforced concrete structures both the Tall Boy and the Grand Slam had to be released some 18,000 ft above their target.
The grand slam was a rare beast some 48 to 54 being dropped in spoecial raids.
Several hundred Tall boys were dropped.
8000lb cookies were common HE container bombs dropped over "populated industrial targets" by night bombers. They were two "short" 4000lb cookies bolted together. There was also a 12000 lb cookie.
A Tall boy would be an interesting perked ordinance. Without reaching its required terminal velocity it would be somewhat less effective than than 12 x 1000lbs ...............however if it was able to bury its self 40ft under a hanger complex then the resulting crater is well over a 100ft in diameter with fall out beyond that. Making it 2 to 3 times as effective as 12 x 1000lbs
It would be neat if for example destroying the dock yard bearths in a port delayed the re spawning of a fleet plus its obvious use agaianst HQ's
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Originally posted by CFYA
Its called photo shop....look at the shadows and it should become glaring after that.
I still want one tho!!!:D :t :D
CFYA
You reckon they had photo shop back then do you? Hmm...
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I seriously hope your joking.....:noid
No question about it.......that photo is edited. The original was probly on taken with the left. Look at the tail and the lighting and shade differences.
CFYA
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Not to mention the basackard shadows that are all over it.
Wait I got it.......its an alien planet with 2 suns!
CFYA
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Originally posted by Tilt
It would be neat if for example destroying the dock yard bearths in a port delayed the re spawning of a fleet plus its obvious use agaianst HQ's
I would love to put one of those craters in the middle of a runway and reap the reward in proxies :)
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Tank town or heavily defended v base!!:D :t
CFYA
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Originally posted by CFYA
I seriously hope your joking.....:noid
No question about it.......that photo is edited. The original was probly on taken with the left. Look at the tail and the lighting and shade differences.
CFYA
Yes, I was joking. I agree, the photo is edited. Remember what I wrote?
"Note that the Grand Slam is quite a bit longer than the Tall Boy, compared to the OP's pic, suggesting there is something odd about the picture."
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Originally posted by KD303
Yes, I was joking. I agree, the photo is edited. Remember what I wrote?
"Note that the Grand Slam is quite a bit longer than the Tall Boy, compared to the OP's pic, suggesting there is something odd about the picture."
It is not a Tallboy. It is an 25,000 lb Samson bomb.
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how did you get your sig with that font furbie?
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Originally posted by Denholm
You say not ever, then why did you say "Maybe in 20 years"?
well,
when imma outta college imma drive my butt down to HTC and hax their compz and get the b29 and nukie :)
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Originally posted by Furball
I think the one on the right is the American versions of the Grand Slam? (T-12?) It has less girth :)
Can't be British, it's too long. :)
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Originally posted by Spikey
how did you get your sig with that font furbie?
Skuzzy is my mother. I begged and cried and stamped my feet and she relented.
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:rofl
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There is something odd about that picture.
The bomb on the right is lit from the right side, and the rest of the photo is lit from the left side.
TMAW
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Originally posted by Furball
It is not a Tallboy. It is an 25,000 lb Samson bomb.
Now, that would explain the size then.
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Originally posted by OdinGrunherze
yes the Lancaster carried the 12k tallboy, and the 24k Grand slam...
Both were used during the war...
There wouldn't be a real "Bang", just an incredible shaking, enough to shake your teeth out!!!! At least thats what they were designed to do....
Have you seen the video of the tallboys that were dropped on the Tirpitz, incredible video... One of the tallboys went right thru the battleship, and exploded deep in th bottom of the fjord, blew the ships seams out... Tirpitz go blub blub blub!!!
And yes the 800cm railgun was used during WW2... I'm not sure which one, I think it was "Dora", was used during the seige of Sevastapol....
There is video of that as well, arial movies taken from a fieseler storch...
Impressive movie... Shell impacts, on the city... WOW, easy 300ft blasts...
And monster craters...
Then there is Vid of tallboys dropped on Uboat pens in Bremen....
Along with damage vids of the 24ft thick roofs.... Geez, I've never seen so much rebar in my life in that concrete...
OG
:cry :cry :cry Post 'em! NOW. Thanks :p ;)
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This might interest:It's a very well put together History Channel doc about sinking the Tirpitz.
You can watch the whole thing at youtube, but below is a link to the more significant parts. Worth a watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZznIihyO4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_ZznIihyO4)
AND
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpV5XLRjzVk&mode=related&search= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpV5XLRjzVk&mode=related&search=)
The guy who uploaded them to youtube has some excellent documentaries, including a BBC one about RAF Bomber Command and another about the F6F.