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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Boroda on June 07, 2007, 07:54:29 AM
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I see an interesting trend in "democratised" and "liberated" countries.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10441449
Rice farmers turn to poppies
5:00AM Thursday May 24, 2007
BAGHDAD - Farmers in southern Iraq have started for the first time to grow opium poppies in their fields, sparking fears that Iraq might become a serious drugs producer along the lines of Afghanistan.
Rice farmers in the fertile plain along the Euphrates, just to the west of Diwaniyah, south of Baghdad, have stopped cultivating rice and are instead planting poppies, Iraqi sources familiar with the area say.
The shift to opium cultivation is still in its early stages but there is little the Iraqi Government can do about it because rival *****e militias and their surrogates in the security forces control Diwaniyah. There have been clashes between militias, police, Iraqi Army and US forces in the city over the last two months.
The shift to opium production is taking place in the well-irrigated land west and south of Diwaniyah around the towns of Ash Shamiyah, al Ghammas and Ash-Shinafiyah. The farmers are said to be having problems in growing the poppies because of the intense heat and high humidity.
It is too dangerous for foreign journalists to visit Diwaniyah but the start of opium poppy cultivation is attested by two students from there and a source in Basra familiar with the Iraqi drugs trade.
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This isn't a new trend. This is ancient for that region.
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Originally posted by VOR
This isn't a new trend. This is ancient for that region.
I mean - nothing like that happened under Evil Saddam. Afghan opiate production went up several times since "liberation" also.
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Cool. Cash flow is good for the economy.
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Is your point that when people are free they turn to drugs...and when they are oppressed they grow food? So freedom destroys life, and oppression sustanes life?
You would rather see millions live in fear, than to see 1000s of people break laws while millions of others enjoy a good life?
Crime happens even under an iron fist.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Cool. Cash flow is good for the economy.
Just like Global Warming is a good thing too.
:rolleyes:
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Well we are going to have to drastically increase our Iraq budget now, have to start a second war over there...war on drugs, hope it goes better than the one here.
shamus
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"attested by two students from there and a source in Basra familiar with the Iraqi drugs trade."
well, thats all the "proof" i need.
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Originally posted by Boroda
the start of opium poppy cultivation is attested by two students from there and a source in Basra familiar with the Iraqi drugs trade.
...two students...wearing "Free Tibet" wife-beaters, no doubt from denmark or Amsterdam :)
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isn't that against their religion? lol
hopefuly they'll smoke it themselves and calm down..
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good news for the russians now they can add heroin to the growing list of malaise.
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The opium poppy isn't just for growing for illegal drug trade. It is also very important to the pharmaceutical industry. Several different drugs are made from the opium poppy.
The seeds of the poppy are widely used as the popular "poppy seed" found in and on many food items such as bagels, bialys, muffins and cakes. The seeds can be pressed to form poppyseed oil, which can be used in cooking, or as a carrier for oil-based paints.
The opium poppy has many legitimate uses, instead of concentrating on stamping out opium poppy production in Afghanistan and now Iraq, (which is likely an impossible task anyways), why not help those folks find legitimate markets for their crops?
Wikipedia has a pretty good write up on the opium poppy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_poppy
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Originally posted by storch
good news for the russians now they can add heroin to the growing list of malaise.
Or at the least, a more stable supplier.
ack-ack
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Understood Elfie, but I think there was a negative slant on the post.
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Originally posted by Shamus
Well we are going to have to drastically increase our Iraq budget now, have to start a second war over there...war on drugs, hope it goes better than the one here.
shamus
Our so called leaders can't win any "war on", except the "war on" the middle class... Mission accomplished.
But I'm sure our brainless leaders will try to impose Western drug morals on the locals, which I'm sure they'll violently reject like everything else. I do enjoy the irony in all this; once we got rid of the evil Saddam, and all his security, Iraq became a wide open vacuum for "anything goes", drugs, terrorism, puppy porn, murder, kidnapping all things evil do'ers do... because there's nobody watching, no police to call... no authority. Another mission accomplished.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Understood Elfie, but I think there was a negative slant on the post.
Yes I know, that's why I tried to show a way that it could be turned into a positive. ;)
Instead of an illegal drug trade developing, develop a new source for legal pharmaceuticals and food.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I mean - nothing like that happened under Evil Saddam. Afghan opiate production went up several times since "liberation" also.
One other thing you forgot to mention since they've been "liberated". No one has been thrown into a meat grinder feet first while alive.
- Yeah Saddam wasn't evil.
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Originally posted by Curval
Just like Global Warming is a good thing too.
I guess a good fairy tale is better than no fairy tale at all.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Speed55
One other thing you forgot to mention since they've been "liberated". No one has been thrown into a meat grinder feet first while alive.
- Yeah Saddam wasn't evil.
Far easier to blow them up at a market...
Tronsky
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I see an interesting trend in "democratised" and "liberated" countries. - Baroda
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2...jectid=10441449
nothing new about this Baroda. poppies are a very easy plant. they need very little water, and require no skill to grow. its going to happen every single time there is war. poppies financed much of the mujahadeen's war and ultimate victory against your soviet army in afganistan, as I'm sure you will recall.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
I guess a good fairy tale is better than no fairy tale at all.
:rolleyes:
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So you saying poopy production is good for the economy is a fairy tale? I agree with that. You made a funnay...good for you.:aok
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Originally posted by Gunthr
nothing new about this Baroda. poppies are a very easy plant. they need very little water, and require no skill to grow. its going to happen every single time there is war. poppies financed much of the mujahadeen's war and ultimate victory against your soviet army in afganistan, as I'm sure you will recall.
There is something strange in Boroda's story. Rice requires the exact opposite of what Gunthr says poppies require > that is lots of water.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
There is something strange in Boroda's story.
so what else is new?
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Originally posted by Curval
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So you saying poopy production is good for the economy is a fairy tale?
Nope.........and you already know that. Now go put on your pink shorts and ride your scooter sonny. :rofl
Poopy? At least we know where your mind resides. :aok
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Poopy? At least we know where your mind resides. :aok
Freudian slip.
Happens when responding to you because you are so full of it.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Boroda
I see an interesting trend in "democratised" and "liberated" countries.
As opposed to the starvation oppression and persecution that occured in the Soviet absorbed ones?
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DREDIOCK has obviously been brainwashed by capitalist propaganda machine.
The Soviet Union is full of smiling, happy people dedicated to the principle of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, which btw, was a Marxist phrase stolen by the insurgent white wig oppressors of the indigenous Americans directly from the communist playbook.
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Originally posted by Yeager
DREDIOCK has obviously been brainwashed by capitalist propaganda machine.
The Soviet Union is full of smiling, happy people dedicated to the principle of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, which btw, was a Marxist phrase stolen by the insurgent white wig oppressors of the indigenous Americans directly from the communist playbook.
No I happen to know quite a few that left some of those countries for here.
Including a couple that escaped while being shot at.
One still bears the hideous scars suffered by the niceties of the KGB
His family confirms the stories
But prior to that I didnt need his family to beleive him.
The look in his eyes when he told of the stories laid to rest any doubts I might have had long before I met his family