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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SkyRock on June 07, 2007, 05:23:12 PM
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Who uses their keyboard for views and flight controls?
I do. I have always used my keyboard number pad for views and have tried using hat, but old habits are hard to break. This means I have to loose sight of opponent to raise lower flaps or trim. I relly feel I get better views using the number pad though. Your thoughts?:)
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Hat mapped to same things as numpad. In heat of battle will use hat on stick, but otherwise often use numpad. To me they're interchangable. Also have a button on my stick (which has limited buttons!) devoted to "up" view, so I can always have 8-way hat and 8-way+UP at any moment I need.
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IN, I use the number pad on the keyboard too.
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No need to type "IN". Does not apply here.
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Q and W for flaps, numpad to look around, P for wep. Throttle's on the left side of the base of my CH stick though.
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I use my keyboard for views outside. But only because my thumb doesn't reach all the way up to the chinaman's hat. I need to find a kiddie size joystick.
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I have hat veiws(not all but most), but will 90% of time use key pad. Like Krusty said, I only use my hat when I'm to busy to have both hands away from the stick.
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Only commands I use my keyboard for are the Shift F1-F4 clutter views, autopilot commands, and the normal number keys to change aircraft/vehicle stations.
Everything else is mapped between my throttle and joystick.
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key board only used to zoom in and out and landing gear/hook.
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I use num pad for views but have flaps, zoom toggle and of course firing buttons mapped to my stick. Other than that it's the keyboard.
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I have an X-52, so I have my reg. hat switch set to views and my 2nd hat switch set to (UP and DOWN set to flaps) (LEFT and RIGHT is clear atm).
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Who uses their keyboard for views and flight controls?
I do. I have always used my keyboard number pad for views and have tried using hat, but old habits are hard to break. This means I have to loose sight of opponent to raise lower flaps or trim. I relly feel I get better views using the number pad though. Your thoughts?:)
I have full CH Pro gear, I have more toggles, buttons and switches than a dog has fleas. I don't use the keyboard for anything but chatting. People ask what key does what, I have no clue, they are all mapped to various buttons on my gear. ;)
Zazen
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Originally posted by Zazen13
I have full CH Pro gear, I have more toggles, buttons and switches than a dog has fleas. I don't use the keyboard for anything but chatting. People ask what key does what, I have no clue, they are all mapped to various buttons on my gear. ;)
Zazen
ive tried to set my X52 up to do most of the stuff.....I have my Esc. and click buttons set to it, but I never use them.
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views? I just look forward, and fly in circles to see whats behind me.
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Tried the hat switch for views on my cheapie Thrustmaster Fox2 Pro, went back to keyboard. Wife bought me an X52. Tried using a couple setups for views. Tried getting used to X52 altogether. No go. Although Saitek makes great game gear, they seem to overlook short fingers, even after adjustments.
I went back to Thrustmaster, and back to the keypad for views.
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Originally posted by Yeager
views? I just look forward, and fly in circles to see whats behind me.
I really doubt this.
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Use to use the keypad when I was running the old MS stick. Now I've converted to the hat on the Saitek.
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JB21 and Creton had me map my X52 with their View set up wow :aok I never touch the key Board:O :O
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Originally posted by scot12b
JB21 and Creton had me map my X52 with their View set up wow :aok I never touch the key Board:O :O
just your views? I'll have to find them...
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Originally posted by Stang
Q and W for flaps, numpad to look around, P for wep. Throttle's on the left side of the base of my CH stick though.
Bout the same for me. Hat switches for views but keyboard for wep, gear and flaps...Not that my 38G has wep, but on those occasions where I'm in a J :)
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Originally posted by thndregg
Although Saitek makes great game gear, they seem to overlook short fingers, even after adjustments.
...Carnies. Circus folk. Nomads, you know. Smell like cabbage. Small hands.
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I have everything on my throttle and stick. I use microstick for rudders my legs are to long for the pedals. All my views are on my stick and my look up is on throttle.
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I have always and do now use my keyboard for views. A hat doesn't have all the perturbations by itself, and I use my hat switch for toggling zoom on and off and for zooming in and out (hat up for toggle zoom, left for zoom out, right for zoom in).
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Stick for simple views, check six, local radio, and WEP. Keyboard for everything else, including many views.
I never use the buttons on the base of my MS FF2. I can never remember what they are mapped to, and it's inconvenient to move my left hand from the keyboard over to the stick to use them anyway.
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Hat Switch :D
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Man you guys really need to move into the 21st century. I suppose you guys are still using rotary dial telephones too. I use the Joystick for everything imaginable. I can show many of you how to setup an X52 for optimum Keyboardless fighting. Of course for everything else I use a command pad (also saitek) and of course CH rudder pedals. There is almost nothing in the game I don't have setup to some sort of one button control. Salvo's, speeds, autopilots ect. ect.
If you want me to elaborate, just ask.:cool:
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I bet you have a mic button on the stik to quickly yell at everyone fer gettin near "your" kill after they save you...rofl..Woooooooooooooowo ooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol
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Between my Saitek gamer's keypad (27 programmable functions) and a MSFFPro stick with all its buttons, I have been using hat switches for views since I first started playing years ago. I never thought of using the Saitek gamer's keyboard pad for programming views, and then using the hatswitch for other functions, but I may have to. My last MSFFPro stick's hat switch (right position) is deteriorating fast ... hitting it with a hammer to get it to work for a sortie or two is a little extreme, but it works! So far.
I'm impressed by all the great sticks who use the numpad keys for views. I think I will have to try it, or a TrackIR.
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Originally posted by jaxxo
I bet you have a mic button on the stik to quickly yell at everyone fer gettin near "your" kill after they save you...rofl..Woooooooooooooowo ooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:lol
Nope, we never save SHawk! We wait until he dies and THEN we steal his kill! It's a lot easier that way.
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all this talk of sticks?! I use a touch pad for controls and the numbers across the top of my 13 inch laptop to play....
:noid
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keyboard
Oz
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Left hand: Joystick - Fireing, both VOX ch., and Triming
Right Hand: Keyboard - key pad views, chck 6s,gear, flaps, all of that stuff.
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I have the micro stick on my CH throttle set up for views and a 4 way switch on my flight stick set up with dedicated rear views cause sometimes its easier. I don't have to use keyboard very often but I still do.
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Dont need no fancy shmancy big screen laptops or x52's wit the peddals....All i need is my Twisty stick and red cup :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v620/KinGKillaTFD/IMG00280.jpg)
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Same stick that I have.:D
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For my next project I'm considering a Lightweight (maybe aluminum) tube frame Cockpit to mount everything in. Of course it will have to be cut into sections and spliced together with some quick connects for dismantling and moving. I run a toolshop and I know a very good welder.
P.S. Jaxxo my range vox button is the great BIG one on the throttle for easy access:p
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I use my mouse for elevator, aileron, throttle and gun control. I use my keyboard for everything else.
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I use my joystick for al normal flight controls except things like flaps, trim, zoom and landing gears.
So basically I move around and look with the stick but do all adjustments with keyboard.
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hat for quick scans of enemy icons.
Once in combat, i reach over with my left hand, and use the num pad.
Stupid way to fly, but i have been doin' it for..too long.
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SkyCrock, you noob! Get a X52 already! I only use keyboard for bomb runs and vox. If I weren't so lazy, I'd program this thing for that too.
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Platano, what kind of headset is that? And do you read that book while you're shooting people down :huh
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Originally posted by SkyRock
Who uses their keyboard for views and flight controls?
I do. I have always used my keyboard number pad for views and have tried using hat, but old habits are hard to break. This means I have to loose sight of opponent to raise lower flaps or trim. I relly feel I get better views using the number pad though. Your thoughts?:)
I use the number pad as well.
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Originally posted by SHawk
Man you guys really need to move into the 21st century. I suppose you guys are still using rotary dial telephones too. I use the Joystick for everything imaginable. I can show many of you how to setup an X52 for optimum Keyboardless fighting.
Maybe YOU should move into the 21st century. Using clumsy joystick hat switches IS just like using rotary dials and not much better than using the keyboard :D
Seriously, I can't even fly & fight using hatviews. I don't even have them mapped anymore. When I lose my TIR tracking for any reason (happens rarely), I immediately RTB (and use the keyboard during it) and relog.
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HOTAS for everything except text radio, engine (e) and gear (g). Some functions you just don't want to hit in combat by accident! :D
I need to update my TIR software and give it another try - it didn't work well for me when I last tried - but that was in that game that abbreviates to 6 letters.
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I use keypad, seeing I don't use a very good joystick, just can't seem to use the HAT button and fly LOL
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Originally posted by Lusche
Maybe YOU should move into the 21st century. Using clumsy joystick hat switches IS just like using rotary dials and not much better than using the keyboard :D
Seriously, I can't even fly & fight using hatviews. I don't even have them mapped anymore. When I lose my TIR tracking for any reason (happens rarely), I immediately RTB (and use the keyboard during it) and relog.
I was wondering when a TIR user would chime in.
Seriously thinking about it.
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For those of you who have a CH Pro Throttle here is some code that will automatically turn WEP on when you firewall the throttle ... and shut it off when pulled back from full throttle.
In your CMS script file enter this line ...
CMS.B2 = [JS2.A3 < 10]; // Apply WEP when Throttle is firewalled. WEP off when not firewalled
In the Control Manager, click on the CMS Controls Tab. In this example, I have assigned this action to B2.
Click on B2 and enter in the "press" field ... NULL p
If you already have B2 assigned to something else, find an empty CMS control and enter ... NULL p in the "press" field and change the CMS.B2 to whatever Bnumber you have chosen.
This works well for me when knife fighting and using a lot of throttle control. I can work the full spectrum of the throttle and when WEP is needed, I simply push the throttle full forward and bingo ... WEP ON !!!
I also have WEP toggle assigned to another key on the throttle.
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Mouse and keyboard for everything.
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Hat switch during combat to keep my hand free for flaps and such. Number pad just for looking around during flight.
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Originally posted by Krusty
No need to type "IN". Does not apply here.
Sooner or later it will :aok :rofl :D
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Originally posted by Stang
Q and W for flaps, numpad to look around, P for wep. Throttle's on the left side of the base of my CH stick though.
Why don't you just use your mouce instead of the stick and get it over with dweeb :noid WWII pilots did not have a keyboard in their planes did they? :noid
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And they did have a "mouce"??? :confused:
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Originally posted by Ghastly
And they did have a "mouce"??? :confused:
Stupid language. Can't safely make fun of anyone :furious
Lets see, yeah, a "mouce". You can only buy those thingies directly from HT!
How that for a recovery? :furious
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I'm old school skyrock, mouse and keyboard son !
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Originally posted by uptown
Platano, what kind of headset is that? And do you read that book while you're shooting people down :huh
Plantronics....I bought from Circuit City a while back for only 30 bucks....Good investment as it sounds like a Bose Headset with the Bass and sharpness of sound for when I cant be blasting the speakers...
As for the book, I keep it nearby so I can read it on climbout :D
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Keyboard for typing, selecting engines, vis ranges, and arrestor hook. Some of those might actually be programmed, but I can't remember where. Everything else I use is on the stick. Yea Saitek.
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Originally posted by texasmom
I use my keyboard for views outside. But only because my thumb doesn't reach all the way up to the chinaman's hat. I need to find a kiddie size joystick.
Get a 3ft long piece of cord and tie one end to a rafter in your garage while standing on a stool. Tie the other end around your right (or left whichever applies) thumb, kick stool out from under you and hang by your thumb for at least 30 mins. Do this once a day for 30 days, this should s - t - r - e - t - c - h your thumb out at least another inch - OR - your thumb will fall off from lack of circulation (whichever comes first).
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Hi TexasMom
Ironic
Disclaimer: for everyone else, please don't try this at home!
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Originally posted by Platano
Plantronics....I bought from Circuit City a while back for only 30 bucks....Good investment as it sounds like a Bose Headset with the Bass and sharpness of sound for when I cant be blasting the speakers...
As for the book, I keep it nearby so I can read it on climbout :D
Sennheiser headsets are the best IMHO. Thay are spendy but well worth the comfort and sound quality.
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at this point i use the cyborg evo by saitek i have had it for over 3 years worked great untill the other night, {got a load crack out of it} so im going to pickup the X-52 tonight.
other wise i use hat, for views
the only thing i use keyboard for is
typing
map zoom
gun zoom {i set the toggle on stick}
gear
switch secondary weapon
i got it set up so that when im in a fight
nether hand has to leave the stick
although my main trigger is not fire, it is gun zoom toggle
fire is lower butten on left.
my targeting skillz are so bad i had to switch the buttens to help steady the shot.
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Sennheiser headsets are the best IMHO. Thay are spendy but well worth the comfort and sound quality.
Yep, Sennheiser here. Super comfy and great sound. Think mine were 80 bucks American (40,000 Canadian:D )
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Originally posted by SHawk
Yep, Sennheiser here. Super comfy and great sound. Think mine were 80 bucks American (40,000 Canadian:D )
Sennheiser comes from the audiophile market and they also make some fantastic pro audio stuff.
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SpikesX Pm me Bro sometime in MA. I will help you set up your views Bro:aok :aok