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Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: swoop777 on June 07, 2007, 11:12:40 PM
Anyone interested message Swoop777, Latteral, Crossbns, or TonyReese we are about fun and base taking but not to serious that we lose site of fun.  So if you want to be part of some fun furballs and missions then hit one of us up someone is on all the time.


Blut und Ehre   (Blood and Honor)

Swoop777
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Lusche on June 08, 2007, 04:33:02 AM
You guys know you are using a pure Nazi term as you squad name?
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Bruv119 on June 08, 2007, 06:25:19 AM
A big nazi propaganda slogan to convince the good natured German population that the Nazi's ideals were in the best interests of the population.


Personally I think it's out of order in a WW2 simulation game to recreate any part of the Nazi regime.  That is why the swastikas arent allowed on German planes.  

If myself or my squad shoot any of you guys down stick it in your pipe and smoke it.  Call it winners rights.

I'm sure many that got involved in this community did so because of their dads or grandads, uncles or great uncles fought hard for victory.  To have guys come on here and pretend to be wannabe Nazi's isnt on.  

Anyway I wont get too bent out of shape as I know this is a game and we are here to have fun.  I just hope you realise what label your squad CO has given you.

All the best


Bruv
~S~
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Kazaa on June 08, 2007, 07:10:43 AM
I Googled the name, and I'm not impressed :eek:
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Major Biggles on June 08, 2007, 08:28:27 AM
very stupid little children
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: swoop777 on June 08, 2007, 08:37:41 AM
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  We invite all of you to try to deal with us in the sky and I put a strong emphasis on the word TRY.  Do as you must fail you will and remember while you are plummiting to the ground that this is just a game and be thankful your grandaddy gave you the right to be an armchair general!


Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: UdieNow on June 08, 2007, 08:43:48 AM
No offence, but I personally dont like the name, but will enjoy seeing your planes on the receiving end of my Spits hispannos.

Title: Unreal
Post by: Stampf on June 08, 2007, 09:21:23 AM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  We invite all of you to try to deal with us in the sky and I put a strong emphasis on the word TRY.  Do as you must fail you will and remember while you are plummiting to the ground that this is just a game and be thankful your grandaddy gave you the right to be an armchair general!


Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre


Oh my.  Listen.  Not only do you need to change that attitude, you need to find a new name for your squad. Quickly.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Major Biggles on June 08, 2007, 10:18:44 AM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  We invite all of you to try to deal with us in the sky and I put a strong emphasis on the word TRY.  Do as you must fail you will and remember while you are plummiting to the ground that this is just a game and be thankful your grandaddy gave you the right to be an armchair general!


Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre


i will take on anyone in your squad in any fighter and win, guaranteed.

really disgusting. i hope that if you stick with this, you're banned from AH permanently. lose the name and the attitude or get lost
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: UdieNow on June 08, 2007, 10:55:33 AM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  We invite all of you to try to deal with us in the sky and I put a strong emphasis on the word TRY.  Do as you must fail you will and remember while you are plummiting to the ground that this is just a game and be thankful your grandaddy gave you the right to be an armchair general!


Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre



I'm sorry, but TRY as YOU might, you wont be able to deal with the "71st" or "The Few".  
I'm willing to bet that your squad couldnt even take on Biggles, Bruv, and Kazaa.

But really, Please rethink your squad name and either change or disband it.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Guppy35 on June 08, 2007, 11:56:53 AM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  We invite all of you to try to deal with us in the sky and I put a strong emphasis on the word TRY.  Do as you must fail you will and remember while you are plummiting to the ground that this is just a game and be thankful your grandaddy gave you the right to be an armchair general!


Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre


So you are suggesting that jackboots are part of the squadron uniform?  Just a bit on the tactless side swoop.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Lusche on June 08, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  
Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre


So that means you are actively supporting national socialistic ideology? Especially when considering that you deliberately chose to even write it in German. And I can assure you, every native speaker of the German language will associate that phrase only with nazis, and nothing else.

And don't assume anything about our grandaddys. My family lost quite a few members fighting FOR that kind of crap...

Please change your name BECAUSE it is a game.
Title: unreal
Post by: Stampf on June 08, 2007, 12:21:20 PM
What he said.  Now.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: evenhaim on June 08, 2007, 04:09:01 PM
awww hell no u didnt go there, your names have now been downloaded into the 412th fs tracker systmes and you WILL (empahsis) WILL be hunted by all the players i know personally!:mad:
you little nazi skinhead punks
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: evenhaim on June 08, 2007, 04:10:24 PM
better yet
 skuzzy please tear this thread down
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Major Biggles on June 08, 2007, 04:15:47 PM
skuzzy, please permaban this tardling and all his neonazi followers
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: evenhaim on June 08, 2007, 04:21:13 PM
pm sent to skuzz biggles
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Estes on June 08, 2007, 04:32:46 PM
sad thing is, I've heard TonyReese on vox. And unless it's a dad/son account and the son is the fault on this, he is definitely not a little kid.
Title: Ignorance
Post by: Stampf on June 08, 2007, 04:36:49 PM
Millions fell for this, while the real Blood and Honor of Germany was destroyed by the very slobs who coined the phrase.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Major Biggles on June 08, 2007, 05:51:31 PM
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Originally posted by Estes
sad thing is, I've heard TonyReese on vox. And unless it's a dad/son account and the son is the fault on this, he is definitely not a little kid.


:rolleyes:

why people think it's cool/makes them look hard, is beyond me. being a racist **** is about as uncool as it comes
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Trog on June 08, 2007, 06:31:29 PM
Blut und Ehre

Blood and honour were between 1926 and 1945 slogan and greeting formula of the National Socialist youth organization Hitler Youth.

Derived from blood and honour Blood and Honour stands today for a network of neonazistischer skinheads.

I'm sorry Swoop77 you are making a grave error in bringing this into the game.

I cannot and will not support you period.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: swoop777 on June 08, 2007, 07:26:36 PM
OK wow it is just a name and I was attacked for nothing these are only,  ONLY german words I am not a nazi and it is funny you think that just because I chose it as a name what if I were german and took offense to everyone else that had an american squadron,  perhaps one that killed my family members in the war I chose it because I like german planes and it is all part of the roleplay .

as for the attitude I was just telling them to deal with it in the game I am not here to start fights I am here to get more squaddies I am sorry if this offends you but I dont think its right to try to ban me *even if these were my beliefs* which they are not.  Furthermore most of you probably would shoot me down I am only bout 6 months in and you guys have been playin for years.

funny thing is I have gotten compliments on the NAME while in the game, come here to recruit and get flamed.  I think we should evaluate again who the children here are I am not trying to be inflamatory GOD knows that just trying to roleplay in a fun game I enjoy very much so please if you encounter me in the game listen to how I talk and how much it DOES NOT have anything to do with NAZIs or the NAZI PARTY!

Skuzzy,  Sorry for any inconveinence I have caused you!
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: evenhaim on June 08, 2007, 07:56:22 PM
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Originally posted by swoop777
OK wow it is just a name and I was attacked for nothing these are only,  ONLY german words I am not a nazi and it is funny you think that just because I chose it as a name what if I were german and took offense to everyone else that had an american squadron,  perhaps one that killed my family members in the war I chose it because I like german planes and it is all part of the roleplay .

as for the attitude I was just telling them to deal with it in the game I am not here to start fights I am here to get more squaddies I am sorry if this offends you but I dont think its right to try to ban me *even if these were my beliefs* which they are not.  Furthermore most of you probably would shoot me down I am only bout 6 months in and you guys have been playin for years.

funny thing is I have gotten compliments on the NAME while in the game, come here to recruit and get flamed.  I think we should evaluate again who the children here are I am not trying to be inflamatory GOD knows that just trying to roleplay in a fun game I enjoy very much so please if you encounter me in the game listen to how I talk and how much it DOES NOT
have anything to do with NAZIs or the NAZI PARTY!

Skuzzy,  Sorry for any inconveinence I have caused you!


in your last post you acknowledged the amazingly hurtfull meaning of your squads name and said you were proud of it, you knew this was a nazi term and what you call "roleplaying" is going wayyy to far, you missed the mark by a mile.  In germany if you even where to mention a nazi remark in a certain tone you could spend life in jail so dont take it lightly, alot and i mean alot of countries have very strict policies on racism.  You need to read the forums and their rules and then make your post.  You cant just say something then take it back.  IT should definatly not take a warning from skuzzy for you to realize this. as you can tell i personaly tok offense to this considering 50% of my family died in the holocaust and related conflicts.  Thank you all for chiming in;)

seems skuzzy gave you  a major warning or something for this 180 reversal in attitude
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: swoop777 on June 08, 2007, 08:06:04 PM
Skuzzy hasnt said anything to me except that my noseart should work now and I am pretty sure that in the email to him it had the Squad name in it.

and I dont see any posts from him in this thread so it must only be important to you guys sorry for the offense again its just a GAME.

this is the last time I reply unless someone wants to talk about joining our squad for FUN in the game.


Stop taking everything so personally please.



Swoop777
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: evenhaim on June 08, 2007, 08:17:06 PM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Skuzzy hasnt said anything to me except that my noseart should work now and I am pretty sure that in the email to him it had the Squad name in it.

and I dont see any posts from him in this thread so it must only be important to you guys sorry for the offense again its just a GAME.

this is the last time I reply unless someone wants to talk about joining our squad for FUN in the game.


Stop taking everything so personally please.



Swoop777


but your making the same stamtement again saying its just a game,,, exactly it your words arent just a game thier real of course me and others will be offended, it is offensive yet you still seem to be niave to this
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Major Biggles on June 09, 2007, 07:11:32 AM
what a moron...


it's a racist and incredibly offensive term, and i would suggest that you remove it, before HTC does, and removes you too. why on earth would you deliberately want to use a well known nazi term as your 'fun' squad name?

you say you knew exactly what it was, which makes you more of a complete banana. your attitude makes me sick, i dread to think what you're like in real life...
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: tonyrese on June 09, 2007, 06:47:52 PM
WE WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE OFFEND !

Yes it is only a game and it is only a name.  The term is written in history and yes was used by
some very bad people. That you are still allowing to have power over you some 65 years later. We are using it in a game and as for offending someone never entered our minds
 
 WE WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE OFFEND !

 But for you to bash someone in the way that you people are suggesting  is wrong . I am a member of this squad and it was formed for the pleasure of its members and not  for  racist reason or to  incredibly offend anyone as you suggest.   And I will not stand for any slanderous statement by anyone that would place squad member or myself with a group of mass murders. And have a family of  attorneys to back that up.

 CEASE AND DESIST WITH ALL SLANDEROUS STATEMNETS AT ONCE

You do not know who we are so to make open ended statements as you and other have made is wrong.  The planes on AH have nazi signs on them maybe you need to quit the game also. Sounds ridiculous right.
What do you think you sound like.
 AJUSTMENT TO THE SQUAD's  NAME WILL BE voted on by it's members and changed if so voted for .............................
WE WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE OFFEND !


TonyRese
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Lusche on June 09, 2007, 07:17:36 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
 The planes on AH have nazi signs on them maybe you need to quit the game also.  



There is not a single nazi sign on any airplane in game. For a reason.


And what you seem to see as "bashing" started only after your CO declared that he "had reasearched" it and does pretty much know about it. Before that you were just informed. Nobody attacked your squad or its individual members at that time.

And If you change your squadname - I certainly have no further hassle with you :aok
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Major Biggles on June 09, 2007, 07:47:39 PM
we're just asking that you change it to something more tasteful, and preferably less nazi!
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Xargos on June 09, 2007, 08:10:36 PM
There are no Nazi signs on any planes in AH and never will be.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Larry on June 09, 2007, 08:29:15 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
The planes on AH have nazi signs on them maybe you need to quit the game also.



BZZZZZ WRONG try again. THe "Iron Cross" on the sides and wings on german aircraft are GERMAN markings, as they were in WWI, WWII and up till today. The nazi symbol is swastika not the iron cross, get that right. Your squad name is like having the SS symbol in your avatar.

(they just wont put up with it and will make you go bye bye if you dont follow thier rules)
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: tonyrese on June 09, 2007, 08:29:25 PM
Isn't there a no flaming rule for this forum
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: tonyrese on June 09, 2007, 08:31:16 PM
what is on the 109?
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Larry on June 09, 2007, 08:40:23 PM
Please show me one skin in AH that has a nazi symbol. Please!


Try that one.

7- Members should remember this board is aimed at a general audience. Posting pornographic or generally offensive text, images, links, etc. will not be tolerated. This includes attempts to bypass the profanity filter.

Here is a rule from the skinners thread made by Skuzzy


Some basic guidlines:

We will not accept skins containing the swastiska. NOTE: If you are making a skin that originally had a swastiska, just leave the spot blank where the swastiska would have been, or change the swatiska to the Iron Cross. Use your best judgement on this.

We will not accept skins that alter the overall shape of the object.

We will only accept skins that were historically used in World War II.

Only submit the files/skins you actually change from the original.

The text description file must be named by the object name, such as p51d.txt for a P51D skin, for example.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Shifty on June 09, 2007, 09:42:58 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
what is on the 109?


If you're talking about the blue swastika type markings on some of the 109s,,,those are Finnish, not Nazi Germany. Plus they have nothing to do with Nazism. maybe a Finn would be kind enough to post specifics.

Seeing how you don't know the difference you're really out of your league arguing with these guys. Why not just do everybody a favor and come up with another name?
 You can use all kinds of honorable Luftwaffe unit names without going Mien Kampf on us.

Just saying................
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Slash27 on June 09, 2007, 09:46:16 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
what is on the 109?


google Finland
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Larry on June 09, 2007, 10:13:27 PM
aww you guys are no fun. I wanted him to post that the fin. cross is a nazi symbol and make an even bigger bellybutton of himself.:(
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Geary420 on June 10, 2007, 01:47:36 AM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
Isn't there a no flaming rule for this forum


Yes there is, and there hasn't been any in this thread.  I do however think that if Biggles catches any of you in the air there will be flaming (wreckage).

Listen you guys have obviously struck a nerve here.  Just go with a normal JG squad name, it sounds much more proffesional than a Nazi propaganda slogan.  Hell I even have noseart from one of my old squads that I made for "II/JG77 Blackwulf"  JG77 was a real squadron however the Blackwulf part is fictional.  I was saving it for possible reactivation down the line.  If you guys wanna take that one you can, and have the nose art too.  Have a bit of respect.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Trog on June 10, 2007, 03:30:02 AM
Swoop777, tonyrese

If you see in my post there is no flaming, slander or bashing. The post, in it's brief description is meant for education as it appears you needed a history lesson.

You state you were  aware of the meaning of the squad name, but i don't think you truly did. I hope by now you do.

If you are not a nazi and not a skinhead, why on earth would you line yourself with blut und ehre. I know they are "just" words, but i can think of a number of other "just" words that give similair reactions.

A squad name in this game/hobbie should not be associated in any way shape or form involving racism.

Your apology is a start and a name change would show the apology is real.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: TimRas on June 24, 2007, 12:51:51 PM
I noticed this squad is still here.

"Blut und Ehre" ( Blood and Honour) was the motto of the Nazi youth organization Hitler-Jugend (Hitler Youth).

It has since been used by various neo-nazi groups.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Platano on June 24, 2007, 01:05:54 PM
GUYs ChILL OUT!!!


We are All here for one reason, and that is to pretend to be something we are not..If they wanna pretend to be lil nazi skinheads who cares!

Its just a game, Just a name, and as I have heard so many F-in times playing this game, HIS 15 bucks...

If it makes you guys feel better now ya have some1 to take your anger out on.

Until Lord Skuzzy decides to take action or not I think you guys wasting your time Even replying to this thread.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Sweet2th on June 24, 2007, 01:08:46 PM
Wow! Do words bother people this much???????

You better change your squad name cuz they said so BUDDY!!!!!!!And thats an ORDER!!!!!!!


I could care less about a squad name really, it's all fun & games in the end, but if a wittle ol name is gonna get all thier panties in that big of a bunch, then i say go on with it.Matter of fact you should put in CAPS so they can see it better.


It's not like swoop is goin out doin Nazi Stuff or giving speeches or spreading HATE(like everyone else in this thread has done) throughout the LAND.It's just a some words guys.

Swoop i bet you 10$ Vanscrew is out of the squad in a weeks time.


Now i am not supporting Nazi's, Swoop, and anyone else, i am supporting the fact that he wants more people to fly with him and his bunch and everyone came on here HARPING away about this and that like he was suppose to do what you guys said like your word was RULE.


GET YOUR MINDS RIGHT:aok


BTW: t is fun shootin swoop & the others down.:aok
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: killnu on June 24, 2007, 01:41:35 PM
thought swastika wasnt allowed in game due to german law?  Not because of what you guys are making it out as.  Its a name, its a game...doesnt mean they are nazis in anyway shape or form, or that that they support what happened.  Blood and Honor....because somebody puts those words together means they are, or support, nazis?  get a life.  worry about global warming, aids, terrorist attacks...real life stuff.  to get your panties in a wad over this is rediculous.    

We can use american squad names, thats fine?  suppose there should be some japanese people jumping on the bbs here and flipping out over using those?  rediculous.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: RedTop on June 24, 2007, 03:09:50 PM
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Originally posted by swoop777
Well call it what you will I researched the name sir and I know very well what it means as does the squad.  We invite all of you to try to deal with us in the sky and I put a strong emphasis on the word TRY.  Do as you must fail you will and remember while you are plummiting to the ground that this is just a game and be thankful your grandaddy gave you the right to be an armchair general!


Swoop777
CO Blut und Ehre


I huh....well...I served in the Navy...I'ma veteran...and I think I gave myself the right to be an armchair general.:lol

If that name is what you decide to keep , then the target you MAY aquire on your backs will be a tough road in this game I would think. Could be wrong tho. I mean there are some "Different" folks in this game I assure you.

Oh...and 1 last thing....Your squad? Yeah....if you want to put your best 5 or 6 agaisnt my best 5 or 6 in the DA....I'm sure we could arrange that just so you understand that your mouth may be writing checks your butt cant cash. (Always wanted to say that)
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Trog on June 24, 2007, 03:57:17 PM
For Platano, Sweet2th and killinu.

Where i come from your word is the truth. If you want to hide behind the internet that is fine. It is your choice. You can live your life the way you want and live a facade here. Again it is your 15 bucks right?

In my life here or REAL words do matter. And Platano i don't pretend to be something i'm not.

Worry about global warming give me a break. Aids and Terrorism you got something there.

I truly believe if you believe in the lord and do right by him all else fits and that is my 15 bucks worth agree or disagree so be it, i can live with myself.

One thing i might add is why this country is so great. We can have debates like these, not worry about reprocussion on what ideas we may have and discuss openly, no matter how important or insignificant they are.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Guppy35 on June 24, 2007, 05:19:12 PM
This is where I disagree with ya Josh and Plat

"Blut und Ehre" is specific to the Hitler Youth.  There is no other historical connection, certainly not to a Luftwaffe squadron or group.

Regardless of intent,t he name represents the Hitler Youth and in that context is rather tactless and tasteless for Aces High.

I'll agree that in the end it's HTC's call
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Xargos on June 24, 2007, 11:16:26 PM
I worked Gang-Intel for the S.C. Department of Corrections and can tell you that the younger Nazi make up for the lack of females for the older Nazi in prison.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 06:31:27 AM
If they had used the english words, I wouldn't even have raised a eyebrow.

The German words "Blut und Ehre" are NOT just only the two words Blood & Honor. Their meaning is beyond their english counterparts, meaning something different.
(Just like the word "liberal" is the translation of the German word "Liberal" - but it has in reality a completely different political connotation in the USA than in Europe)

It's a fixed term in the German language ONLY used to depict nazi ideology. Actually it's describing it's very most core. It's not only the Hitler Youth motto, but  was introduced as a "judicial "concept" in the Nurenberg Laws in 1935, which denaturalized the German Jews and was the base for any racial discrimination in the Third Reich. Actually the central part was the "Gesetz zum Schutze des deutschen Blutes und der deutschen Ehre" -"The Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honour". There are few terms linked as closely to that ideology as this one. You instantly connect this term with National Socialism & Holocaust.

It's easy for an American to see only two foreign words there - It's about impossible for a German that actually speaks that language.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: TimRas on June 25, 2007, 08:52:53 AM
I think even the English words don't have any other connotation than neo-nazism. Do a Google search with term "blood and honour". As Wikipedia says:
"Blood & Honour is a neo-Nazi music promotion network, founded in 1987, that is comprised of white power skinheads ."
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: TimRas on June 25, 2007, 02:10:16 PM
Just called HTC. They are taking care of this.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: RATTFINK on June 25, 2007, 02:22:46 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
So that means you are actively supporting national socialistic ideology? Especially when considering that you deliberately chose to even write it in German. And I can assure you, every native speaker of the German language will associate that phrase only with nazis, and nothing else.

And don't assume anything about our grandaddys. My family lost quite a few members fighting FOR that kind of crap...

Please change your name BECAUSE it is a game.




I’m w/ Lusche.

If the slogan had anything to do w/ a “German Army” squad then I would say by all means use it.  I am 1/2 German & my Grate Opa was in the “German Army” (Because he had to) & that motto is VERY offensive and it has nothing to do w/ a German Squad.

Get this, they had Hitler Youth knives that had the swastika symbol on the grip.  The motto Blut und Ehre! (Blood and Honor) began to be etched on early knife blades.

I personally would go w/ this squad name III/JG53 “Pik As”  VERY awesome German squad historically correct at that.
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: killnu on June 25, 2007, 02:45:16 PM
We should have all ficticious squad names.  Because somewhere, there is somebody related to somebody shot down by somebody that might get offended by  these historical squad names...or bomber groups that leveled a country...or dropped Atomic bombs...or etc.  Rediculous.
“Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.”



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It's about impossible for a German that actually speaks that language.

Really?  My german wife and her mother did not.  They actually laughed at me.:(
Title: "Blut und Ehre" Recruiting
Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 02:53:28 PM
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Originally posted by killnu
We should have all ficticious squad names.  Because somewhere, there is somebody related to somebody shot down by somebody that might get offended by  these historical squad names...or bomber groups that leveled a country...or dropped Atomic bombs...or etc.  Rediculous.
“Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.”



 
Really?  My german wife and her mother did not.  They actually laughed at me.:(


That is quite sad.
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Post by: Baylor on June 25, 2007, 02:58:20 PM
Whats sad is grown men getting all bent out of shape over a slogan.  There are squad names out there with SS in them, names you cant even type on here, gets the **** treatment, plays on words...but this gets everyones panties in a wad?  Somebody always finds something offensive.

fyi...from time spent near these guys, they are all tools...I just dont see the need to get all up in arms over the name.
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Post by: Platano on June 25, 2007, 03:30:43 PM
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Originally posted by Baylor
Whats sad is grown men getting all bent out of shape over a slogan.  There are squad names out there with SS in them, names you cant even type on here, gets the **** treatment, plays on words...but this gets everyones panties in a wad?  Somebody always finds something offensive.

fyi...from time spent near these guys, they are all tools...I just dont see the need to get all up in arms over the name.


Word.


we have squad names such as

BiG (o)(o) Love

the Big Dicks squad

My Wife is a Biotch

and some others...

but yet Blunt and Air Gets Everyones panties Wet... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Post by: tonyrese on June 25, 2007, 03:33:12 PM
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Originally posted by TimRas
Just called HTC. They are taking care of this.

Give it rest will u .THIS A ROLL PLAY GAME
WRONG AGAIN ANNIE M WE PAY OUR MONEY JUST LIKE YOU
 so stop cry'n. if they tell us to change it, we will.  but not for cry babies
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Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 03:37:46 PM
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Originally posted by Platano
Word.


we have squad names such as

BiG (o)(o) Love

the Big Dicks squad

My Wife is a Biotch

and some others...

but yet Blunt and Air Gets Everyones panties Wet... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


There is a difference...
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Post by: killnu on June 25, 2007, 03:40:37 PM
no...its offensive...distasteful.

how bout Confederate Nation?  bunch of slave drivers they must be.:rolleyes:
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Post by: Platano on June 25, 2007, 04:17:34 PM
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Originally posted by TimRas
Just called HTC. They are taking care of this.


Snitch-

–verb (used without object)
1. to turn informer; tattle.  
–noun
2. Also called snitcher. an informer.


(http://www.yeslizzysloaded.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/stop-snitching.jpg)
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Post by: Shifty on June 25, 2007, 04:20:42 PM
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Originally posted by Platano
Snitch-

–verb (used without object)
1. to turn informer; tattle.  
–noun
2. Also called snitcher. an informer.


(http://www.yeslizzysloaded.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/stop-snitching.jpg)


:rofl
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Post by: tonyrese on June 25, 2007, 05:34:18 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
There is a difference...

hey google your name lusche and this is what i got
 with the pack of cards a spielkarte no eyes counts; see Lu (pack of cards).
devaluing a person, to who inability and incompetence are subordinated
in some areas of Germany a prostitute, a careless person or a Schlampe
in a Niederdeut puddle

you have some nerve using that name you better change it
because prostitution is against the law in most states.
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Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 05:37:18 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
hey google your name lusche and this is what i got
 with the pack of cards a spielkarte no eyes counts; see Lu (pack of cards).
devaluing a person, to who inability and incompetence are subordinated
in some areas of Germany a prostitute, a careless person or a Schlampe
in a Niederdeut puddle

you have some nerve using that name you better change it
because prostitution is against the law in most states.


You see.. it has alot of different meanings.

Besides that, I have yet to find actually an area in Germany were people do use it as a term for a prostitute. It's generally uses for a incompetent person, just like you said. :)

But nice try ;)

But before this thread will finally degrade, Im out of here. I think both sides have presented their arguments.
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Post by: RATTFINK on June 25, 2007, 05:42:42 PM
And I always thought it meant this...

(http://members.aon.at/jkreschi/images/diverses/etiketten/etikette_lusche.jpg)
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Post by: tonyrese on June 25, 2007, 06:14:00 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
You see.. it has alot of different meanings.

Besides that, I have yet to find actually an area in Germany were people do use it as a term for a prostitute. It's generally uses for a incompetent person, just like you said. :)

But nice try ;)

But before this thread will finally degrade, Im out of here. I think both sides have presented their arguments.

 yea ok turntricksman kinda fits see'n you ***** so much with noth'n to back it up
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Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 06:17:09 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
yea ok turntricksman kinda fits see'n you ***** so much with noth'n to back it up


Yep, that's what I was talking about when I said "degrading"...

I just hope you don't expect any adult to take you serious.
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Post by: tonyrese on June 25, 2007, 06:21:07 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Yep, that's what I was talking about when I said "degrading"...

I just hope you don't expect any adult to take you serious.

let me know when you turn into one
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Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 06:22:53 PM
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Originally posted by tonyrese
let me know when you turn into one


<- Gives Tonyrese a hug.
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Post by: SuperDud on June 25, 2007, 07:05:28 PM
I'm offended because everyone else is offended:mad:
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Post by: swoop777 on June 25, 2007, 07:30:40 PM
To whom it may concearn,


      Well the crying should stop now I hope, as I just received the email from "THE SKUZ"  that I have to change the squad name.  So shall it be done, as of this post I am logging on to change the name.  I do hope, however, that this sparks some interest in the other squads names that really are inapropriate for the age levels of people playing this game. For instance, "lesbians in training".  I dont want my thirteen year old coming to me to ask what that means (prolly should get at least a warning). I digress, the new name will be "des Lichtes" meaning "of the light".  Should go along with the 777 nicely I think. There is one thing that really gets me down though, as I have been silent for so long hoping that this thread would die. That is that the blatant attack on my squad members was allowed, and that no matter what the words meant to you or me, it's just the simple fact that the right to use them was taken from me in the "LAND OF THE FREE"(guess you BRITS dont understand that), as you are all about King and Country!  So I am done now, I am just going to start rambling and carrying on so let me be the grown up and stop now. I just wanted to get that off my chest, no harm no foul, it is changed and you the few cryers win as usual in this the "DIVIDED STATES OF EMBARRASSMENT",I mean who was I kidding thinking I could excercise the smallest of rights in this democracy of hipocracy, anyway, thats all. You win. I dont like it, but that is how it is!



One last thing?            ARE WE DONE NOW?!!!:t
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Post by: Lusche on June 25, 2007, 07:37:19 PM
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Originally posted by swoop777

One last thing?            ARE WE DONE NOW?!!!:t


Absolutely. Good luck in the skies of AH2!
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Post by: Mr No Name on June 25, 2007, 08:18:25 PM
Sad that the whiners won this one.
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Post by: Sweet2th on June 25, 2007, 08:19:33 PM
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Originally posted by swoop777
To whom it may concearn,


      Well the crying should stop now I hope, as I just received the email from "THE SKUZ"  that I have to change the squad name.  So shall it be done, as of this post I am logging on to change the name.  I do hope, however, that this sparks some interest in the other squads names that really are inapropriate for the age levels of people playing this game. For instance, "lesbians in training".  I dont want my thirteen year old coming to me to ask what that means (prolly should get at least a warning). I digress, the new name will be "des Lichtes" meaning "of the light".  Should go along with the 777 nicely I think. There is one thing that really gets me down though, as I have been silent for so long hoping that this thread would die. That is that the blatant attack on my squad members was allowed, and that no matter what the words meant to you or me, it's just the simple fact that the right to use them was taken from me in the "LAND OF THE FREE"(guess you BRITS dont understand that), as you are all about King and Country!  So I am done now, I am just going to start rambling and carrying on so let me be the grown up and stop now. I just wanted to get that off my chest, no harm no foul, it is changed and you the few cryers win as usual in this the "DIVIDED STATES OF EMBARRASSMENT",I mean who was I kidding thinking I could excercise the smallest of rights in this democracy of hipocracy, anyway, thats all. You win. I dont like it, but that is how it is!



One last thing?            ARE WE DONE NOW?!!!:t



That is so sad.The Nerds cry cry cry to get what they want like some wittle 6 year old.:rofl :rofl

KillinU was right, Now go make the " Confederate Nation" change thier name, because i am Black and that offends me!
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Post by: Major Biggles on June 25, 2007, 08:48:12 PM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
That is so sad.The Nerds cry cry cry to get what they want like some wittle 6 year old.:rofl :rofl

KillinU was right, Now go make the " Confederate Nation" change thier name, because i am Black and that offends me!



lol, nerds, hahahaha.

it's a purely nazi term. perhaps swoop didn't really understand that, but for anyone that knows, it's about as racist as you can get. i'm sure swoop didn't mean to offend, but it just doesn't belong in aces high.

skuzzy has done the right thing. take it graciously.
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Post by: Platano on June 25, 2007, 09:10:44 PM
Its only freedom of speech if people approve of it. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Post by: VansCrew1 on June 25, 2007, 09:52:53 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Absolutely. Good luck in the skies of AH2!



lol all this over a squad name. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Post by: Bruv119 on June 26, 2007, 04:49:08 AM
Vans the fact you think its funny is a little disheartening.  

Yes this is a game and yes we are over 60 years on and all very good friends with the german people now.

But using an iconic NAZI propaganda slogan for a squad name is takin the piss.


Those brave Few fought for the free world and I say what if they hadnt.  The war would have been very different and personally I believe we would all be very much stuck in the 3rd Reich.


Bruv
~S~
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Post by: lyric1 on June 26, 2007, 06:40:55 AM
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Originally posted by swoop777
To whom it may concearn,


, and that no matter what the words meant to you or me, it's just the simple fact that the right to use them was taken from me in the "LAND OF THE FREE"(guess you BRITS dont understand that), as you are all about King and Country!  


One last thing?            ARE WE DONE NOW?!!!:t
 This game for nearly all of us is just that a game for the few people who run it it's their lively hood & business.  I agree with free speech 100% how ever if your income or business is based off this game & there are laws & regulations in other countrys where you are trying to make a living through this product you are going to have to comply with foreign rules or else no business no jobs no income. So if a indivdual post's something that may be illegal or questionable would it not be prudent to ask for a change instead of all the possible legal actions? Yes it is an American based game but like it or not it is an international business. Oh & I am not English although Australia still is stuck some what on the King & country issue but thats another forum.