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Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: moot on June 09, 2007, 12:48:32 PM: Does anyone have any, or know where to find some?
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Waffle on June 09, 2007, 06:26:09 PM: try here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ta-152-Fw190-Fw-190-Aircraft-Blueprint-s-Plan-s_W0QQitemZ270129574412QQihZ017QQcategoryZ34056QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Geary420 on June 09, 2007, 08:05:17 PM: Sorry it aint much, but it's all I got. Might be helpfull if you are just lookin for panel lines for skinning.

(http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h252/Geary420/random%20shizzle/TA152P.gif)

EDIT - I have it labeled as a 152 from wherever I got it. Now that I look closely the wings don't seem long enough and it has wing mounted guns.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Xasthur on June 09, 2007, 08:11:14 PM: The 152 had wing mounted cannons just as the 190s did, 2 x 20 mounted in the same position as the D-9.

The difference was that the 152 had a hub-mounted MK 108 in addition to the 2 x 151/20s
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Lusche on June 09, 2007, 08:25:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Geary420

EDIT - I have it labeled as a 152 from wherever I got it. Now that I look closely the wings don't seem long enough and it has wing mounted guns.

Well, the Ta152C didnt have the long wings the H had.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: MiloMorai on June 09, 2007, 08:35:33 PM: Try here, http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw_fw.html
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Geary420 on June 09, 2007, 09:44:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Lusche
Well, the Ta152C didnt have the long wings the H had.

Good to know, the pic is labeled ta152p. I assumed the p was just for cataloging purposes but who knows maybe it's for "prototype"

As for the wing cannons I looked through some more of my collection and sure enough. Does the AH 152 have them? I used to really like that plane and fly it quite a bit and I always thought it just had cowl guns and the 108. I don't have a working copy of the game right now so I can't check for myself.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Meyer on June 09, 2007, 10:38:55 PM: Yes that's a Ta-152C, it's got the two Mg151 in the wing root, another pair in the cowling and the Mk108 Motorkanone. And that engine has to be a DB, the Jumo had the compressor in the starboard side.

Another link: http://richard.ferriere.free.fr/3vues/3vues.html
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Xasthur on June 10, 2007, 05:23:14 AM: I must ask......... did the Ta-152C meet the requirements for addition to the game (unit strength etc etc)?

That armament is such a force to be reckoned with..... and with better low-alt performance than the H1..... The 152C would be an absolute ****ing monster.

Gimme gimme gimme!

Failing that, The Fw 190 D-11 would suffice.

:aok
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: moot on June 10, 2007, 06:51:29 PM: I want to model at least one of them in CAD, down to the smallest details, inside and out.

Waffle, it's been taken down, what was it?

Milo, Geary, Meyer, thanks!
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Lusche on June 10, 2007, 06:52:14 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Xasthur
I must ask......... did the Ta-152C meet the requirements for addition to the game (unit strength etc etc)?

Sadly, it does not :cry
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Lusche on June 10, 2007, 07:03:57 PM: This drawing shows the various armament options the Ta 152C series could have had:

(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8039/ta152waffenfq2.jpg)

I don't know if it really would have been feasible, but note that the maximum would have been 3x 3cm AND 4x 2cm cannons ;)
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Waffle on June 10, 2007, 09:14:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by moot
I want to model at least one of them in CAD, down to the smallest details, inside and out.

Waffle, it's been taken down, what was it?

Milo, Geary, Meyer, thanks!

they were factory drawings of the ta152. The guy closed his store down due to a dispute with ebay over other people selling his copyrighted scans.

anyway, I believe there were 12-16 drawings and he wanted around $40 us for them. they're very high resolution scans.

he's still selling them, and I have his email if interested. just pm me.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Geary420 on June 10, 2007, 09:27:12 PM: Thinking of tinkering around with skinning and I might try a 152. I realize options are limited due to low numbers but if anyone has ANY profiles I would like them please.

Also, Moot be sure to post up the results whenever you get her done.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Krusty on June 12, 2007, 12:22:03 PM: What you see in-game is pretty much what they had. There were only 12 or so in service.

The 152C-0 might have had room for outboard guns, and the frame for holding the gunpods, but it wouldn't have if I recall. It was a throwback from earlier designs, I think. It was meant to just have the 4x MG151/20s and the hub gun. Hell, even that'd be sweet!

Pity it wasn't a production plane. I read that 2 of the C-0s served alongside the 152Hs, but more as a desperate measure than a planned service.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Waffle on June 18, 2007, 11:34:30 PM: any luck with that guy with the plans moot?
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: moot on June 20, 2007, 08:15:42 AM: I've had too much work to remember this and a bunch of other things... I'll write him in a few hours and let you know how it went.
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Makoyouidiot on June 22, 2007, 01:27:22 PM: I have this, it's the H-1 variant of the Ta-152

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/Makoyouidiot/01_wallpaper_Ta152H-1-1.jpg)
Title: Dora/152 schematics
Post by: Makoyouidiot on June 22, 2007, 01:28:46 PM: Also, I have a book that states the planned armament for the Ta-152 was 4x 20mm cannon in the wings, and the hub 30mm cannon. Dunno if it's accurate or not.