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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Squire on June 09, 2007, 07:34:36 PM
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I noticed we dont have a RAF/RCAF Spit VIII in MED colors? was wondering if it was something on the horizon, we could use one. Lots of RAAF ones, and a USAAF one but thats it, save the Spit VII from 131 Sqn.
Thx! ;)
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I can do a med Spit 8 for you Squire. Had a quick look for schemes and found this. The second aircraft down is from 92 Squadron based in Italy in 1944. Pilot was Flt Lt Eddie Edwards.
I haven't managed to find any good photos of this or a similar aircraft yet, but I'll have a proper look tonight.
(http://www.hannants.co.uk/pics/ESP48059_1.jpg)
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Thanks Greebo, any good skin you can come up with would be fine by me. Just seemed like a shame we didnt have a MED Spit VIII, seeing that was its main region outside of Burma.
Maybe a 92 Sqn or a 417 Sqn, whatever you can find a good source on.
QJ-F would be my 1st choice since it was F/L "Eddie" Edwards ride. Come to think of it, an online squadmate of mine Bill Wall, who was "Firewall" in AH, who passed away last year, was fond of that one I think, his father in law flew with him in the war.
:aok
Just trying to find some images:
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tricatus.co.uk/Images09/31924b.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tricatus.co.uk/spitfire.htm&h=84&w=120&sz=7&hl=en&start=64&tbnid=WJpZyvKy_TkN2M:&tbnh=62&tbnw=88&prev=/%20images%3Fq%3Dspitfire%2Bedwards%2Bmodel%26start%3D%3Cbr%20/%3E%2060%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26%3Cbr%20/%3Esafe%3Doff%26sa%3DN
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417 squadron please! :)
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We need an MTO Spit VIII in standard RAF colors too so if you are out tooling around with a 16 and 9 driver you've got the same basic scheme.
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Guppy can make sense when those counter rotating props dont scramble his head too badly. ;)
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417 Spit VIII
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43 Squadron Spit VIII in more standard paint with the MTO red nose
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I'm going to start with the 92 Squadron Spit as I've found a photo of a Spit 8 from that squadron and also a 3 view of the colour scheme.
I'm happy to do the 43 and 417 Squadron Spits too unless Kev or someone else wants to do them. Photos of either would be handy.
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Greebo, how about something from the Polish Fighting Team. Six weeks, 25 confirmed kills. They flew the Spit Vb and the IX.
websites;
http://ww2-aviation.net/polavhist/circus.html (http://ww2-aviation.net/polavhist/circus.html)
and
http://www.geocities.com/skrzydla2/PFT/index.html
(The first website was how I found Aces High 2):aok
Obie
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I thought Kev had already done a Polish Fighting Team Spit 9, or am I thinking of the old Spit skins?
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Thx Greebo.
Reply to above, I dont see any MED RAF skins for the IX either, musta been the old ones.
Fencer and Rogerdee did some nices ones too :aok
...looks like we need some VIIIs and IXs in MED RAF schemes. I would also agree that the 145 Sqn PFT IXs would be an excellent choice, as well as what Guppy said re a "euro camoflage" VIII ala the one he illustrated (FT-F), I think its from 43 Sqn? I know they had some in Southern France in 44 supporting the invasion (Dragoon).
http://www.modelairplaneinternational.com/images/Shows/ipms%20us%20nats%202006/usnats_spitfire_viii.jpg
Where is Kev btw? I see no leave authorisation...im sending the RAF Police, damn skinners!!! :D
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I can skin a PFT Spit 9, but I'll wait and see if Kev wants to redo it first. Got a few Spits to be going on with anyway. Maybe he's away on holiday or something.
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I thought Kev had already done a Polish Fighting Team Spit 9, or am I thinking of the old Spit skins?
I checked again. The only Polish skin is the Hurri MkI, 303 Squadron. A couple Polish aces flew with the 609 and 602 Squadrons as well, but we have those skins. The 303 is the only all-Polish squadron represented here.
Obie
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The 92 Squadron Spit 8 is pretty much done, I might play around with the weathering a bit more. Can't make up my mind whether its too dirty or too clean.
This aircraft was flown by the Canadian ace James "Eddie" Edwards. Edwards scored 15.5 kills in P-40s in the desert campaign and a further 3 in Spits in Italy. He rose through the ranks from Sergeant to Wing Commander commanding 127 Wing RCAF in France. A full bio can be found here (http://www.constable.ca/edwards.htm).
(http://www.gfg06.dial.pipex.com/screenshots2/92SQN_SPIT8.jpg)
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WOW:aok
Very good!
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Originally posted by Greebo
Can't make up my mind whether its too dirty or too clean.
(http://www.gfg06.dial.pipex.com/screenshots2/92SQN_SPIT8.jpg)
Mo dirty :)
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Oh very nice. :aok
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You da man Greebo, thx.
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Don't dirty it anymore. It's great
Oops! Where's the MTO red nose color?
Hmm, found another profile of it and it shows white too. Wish I could find a photo to support it though. Red was the standard ID color for Allied fighter spinners in the MTO.
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I've got a few conflicting sources on this aircraft. A profile in Osprey's Spitfire Aces book, a Corgi diecast and a decal sheet profile all show it as I've got it here. Of course, they could all be copying each other.....
Then there's a Hasegawa plastic kit with the same airframe number but the squadron code "QJ-4" and a red spinner. I suppose it is possible they repainted the markings on the real plane at some point.
There's also a photo of a 92 Squadron Spit in the Osprey book with what looks like a red spinner, but the only ID code visible is the "QJ" so it could be a different plane. Maybe the white spinner was a personal or flight marking.
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Originally posted by Greebo
Then there's a Hasegawa plastic kit with the same airframe number but the squadron code "QJ-4" and a red spinner. I suppose it is possible they repainted the markings on the real plane at some point.
Agreed, its entirely possible, I've got photos of the same P-51B in 2 or 3 different markings, several times over. Granted thats USAAF not RAF, but it was probably pretty common to just paint on a new identifier when it was reassigned.
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Odds are it was a replacement spinner, and they didnt bother painting it red. Did it have a red spinner at some point? probably. I guess either would be accurate. Remember, its a real life scheme, and a/c didnt always have everything as "regulation" especaially operation fighter and bomber units in combat zones.
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It's a question of what makes sense i think. The red ID nose color was for a reason and someone without it was apt to get shot first and asked about it later
The USAAF birds all had it as did the RAF stuff.
Sure wish there was something photo wise to show it NOT being red. I can't find anything in my stuff either. Clearly you can always find exceptions to the rule too.
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Looking again at the profile, I noticed its not "sky" colored but actually "white", makes me think it was deliberately that color, for whatever reason. F/L Edwards was a flight commander in 92 Sqn, could it be a unit profile for flight commanders only? I dunno, but its possible...
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Found a picture of Edwards posing by what his presumably his Spitfire. The spinner looks red to me.
(http://www.acesofww2.com/Canada/aces/edwards/edwards_spitfire.jpg)
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Originally posted by Greebo
Found a picture of Edwards posing by what his presumably his Spitfire. The spinner looks red to me.
(http://www.acesofww2.com/Canada/aces/edwards/edwards_spitfire.jpg)
Problem is that's a IXe or XVIe. I'm guessing that photo was taken near the end of the war and potentially thats a black spinner on an RCAF Spit 16 in the ETO.
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Ah yes, looking again I can see the inboard cannon stubs....good spot Guppy.
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Greebo - Don't know if it helps.
I did an VIII with the FT-F codes, no idea why I didn't send it in.
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OK Kev, I should have checked that. I'll scrap the FT-F Spit and make it into a 417 Sqn one.
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"I did an VIII with the FT-F codes, no idea why I didn't send it in."
Ohhh, your teasing us. Send it in!
Please. :)