Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ForrestS on June 11, 2007, 04:03:30 PM
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What would your grades have to be to enter the Airforce or Navy.
I still have 2 years of High School left, is there still time to improve my grades to get accepted into the airforce.
Im not doing so good right now but im gonna try to improve them alot.
I dont think i want to fly FA 18, i would rather fly someting like the Hawkeye.
(http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/e-2c-tr-hawkeye.jpg)
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Your high school grades mean nothing if you are applying for a commission and a slot for flight school. Aside from the US Army's Warrant Officer Flight Training program, all of the other branches pilot's must be a RLO, which requires a four year college degree. It isn't too late, don't worry. Just maintain at least a 3.0 GPA in college, do a lot of out of class room volunteer work, and try and get some leadership experience. Maybe even entertain the idea of your getting your ppl, and i'd say you have as good of a shot as anyone else.
Right now you are at a perfect position to turn your high school grades around. That should be your primary focus. Kick butt the next two years, get into a good school, have fun, stay out of trouble, and put in for a commission and a pilot slot. Whats the worst they can say? No?
PS - For most of the branches you have roughly until age 29 to enter flight school, so even if you dont get picked up right out of college, know you still have nearly a decade to become competitive.
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Thanks dude. This means everything to me. Im really happy you replyed. I was getting worried i wouldent be able to join. :)
O ya what do you mean by collage degree. Are there different types. Are there ones just for flying?
(http://www.dennynoto.com/images/E2C_Hawkeye.jpg)
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Have you taken the ASVAB test yet?
That's something they'll be looking at.
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Im looking at the Air Force too, but I just failed my first class EVER. P.E. (Yeah, im serious.)
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No i havent failed PE. Im not fat, but im not really fit either.
Hey watch this video i just found its funny.
E-2 Hawkeye Navy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqaWdkdFb3Y)
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Originally posted by ForrestS
No i havent failed PE. Im not fat, but im not really fit either.
Hey watch this video i just found its funny.
E-2 Hawkeye Navy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqaWdkdFb3Y)
Neither am I. Im like 5'11 and 120lb, but my teacher had a very lose grading system and hated me. So she failed me.
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You failed PE????? Geez what did you not do? Did you not go to class or something? If you need to get in a sport and do PE that way. Run track or something and they will never fail you.
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Originally posted by Reschke
You failed PE????? Geez what did you not do? Did you not go to class or something? If you need to get in a sport and do PE that way. Run track or something and they will never fail you.
lol. Yeah, I missed a week of school due to the flu. All my other teachers LOVE me and let me make up everything except that one teacher. Actually, im not 100% sure I failed, I havnt got my final grade yet, but im 99.999% sure.
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How can you fail an enterance PT Test? I max'd mine at 17 years old back in 1975 and we had 5 events.
Stay outta McDonalds and all the other fast food places. Get out and run, practice situps, pushups and pullups.
Good luck to you.
Mac
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Originally posted by AWMac
How can you fail an enterance PT Test? I max'd mine at 17 years old back in 1975 and we had 5 events.
Stay outta McDonalds and all the other fast food places. Get out and run, practice situps, pushups and pullups.
Good luck to you.
Mac
I didnt fail an entrance PT test. I Havnt TAKEN an entrance PT test. Im a freshman in highschool. I failed my 3rd quarter PE (And possibly 4th quarter) due to the flu and the fact that my teacher REALLY doesnt like me.
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Back to the subject.
:rolleyes:
what kind of Collage Degree???:huh
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Doesn't matter. Recruiters will tell you to specialize in something special (aviation/engineering), however, I have met guys with Communications, English and Political Science degrees all flying jets.
If I were you I would get a degree in A- Something that interest you, and B- Something you can fall back on. Even if you do get selected and fly in the military for a decade, what happens when you get out and for some reason or another lose your medical? You need something to fall back on outside of aviation. And dont get your panties in a bunch. Your so young right now. Just focus on good grades, staying out of trouble, keeping in shape, and having fun along the way.
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If your in the high school's ROTC program that can help a bunch
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Thanks guys/gals it REALLY helps alot. :aok :D
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High School grades matter primarily if you want to get the military to pay for your college. If you want to go to one of the service academies, you need to have done rather well in high school. ROTC entrance requirements aren't as tough but it's still a competitive scholarship process so good grades in high school would help get the scholarship.
That said, I got a 1.8 gpa in 10th grade, and still ended up going to the USAF Academy because I got my butt in gear and patched things up. I got a 3.8 or better for my last 2 years of HS, lettered in 2 sports in my last 2 years of HS, got most of my pilots license done, successfully completed one year of college, and was recruited by one of the Academy sports teams.
So it's possible to recover from bad HS grades if you want to go to the academy or to have the military pay for your school, but you have to really want it.
If you can afford college by yourself, then there isn't anything wrong with going to school, getting a degree in almost anything (engineering or sciences probably helps), and then applying for officer training school and a pilot slot. Just remember that flying slots are very competitive no matter how you get your comission so you need to be the best, or you probably ought to have a plan B handy in case you don't get exactly what you want.
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Thanx:aok If i do go to collage and make it in will i still get to fly?
Nice avatar by the way. :rofl
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someone should tell him that choosing the navy or airforce will not keep him out of Iraq or should we say Iran by the time he gets in ...
stay in school. do community work NOW. document it. unless you want the service to pay your college, it is best to get your 4 year degree first, then join the service ( at leat a 2 year degree). things like community service and the loans/grants it helps you qualify for with a 3.0 average (Bright Futures Scholarship) will give anyone enough money here in FL to attend college at very little out of pocket expense, if you want it bad enough..
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The military looks at alot of stuff like Boy Scouts, Civil Air Patrol, anything that showed you applied yourself above the rest.
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Forrest,
I hope this doesn't sound too negative because military flying is awesome, but I really don't want you being suprised by stuff your recruiter won't tell you. Also, remember that this is stuff that is happening "now" and "tomorrow", not "next year" or "a few years from now". The whole personnel and manpower situation has changed several times in the last few years and it will probably keep changing in the forseeable future.
First though, getting in as an officer does not guarantee becoming a pilot. When I say that becoming a pilot is "competitive", that means that for every 1 pilot training slot, there may be 20 people who all want that slot and are reasonably well qualified. The screening will include things like how good your grades are, how good your eyesight and physical condition is, your natural hand-eye coordination, and any talent you may have in understanding spatial relationships. So you will have to be better than a whole lot of other people who also want to be pilots. If you want it bad enough, go for it. But if you don't make it, you could just as easily end up patrolling the streets of Baghdad or handing out ketchup packets at the chow hall in Iceland.
Also, the outlook is getting worse for pilots from a personnel management perspective. The USAF recently released a bunch of notices that basically say that although the USAF doesn't have enough pilots to do staff work that requires a flying background, it has more pilots than it needs to fly the aircraft in the inventory. The initial look is that they'll reduce pilot production in the short term and hope that existing pilots will stick around the USAF in non-flying jobs.
That has opened up a huge personnel management problem. They intend to fly new pilots for a few years to get them experience, then shuffle them to non-flying jobs. But many will simply get out if they can't fly. They can't increase the number of new pilots because they already have too many, but with a lot of mid-level experienced pilots leaving they'll end up with a bunch of old pilots who haven't flown in years and a bunch of new pilots who don't know anything. It's a mess, and plans to add a lot more UAVs into the mix makes it even more difficult to manage the personnel.
After saying all that, if I had to do it again I would still go for it. I would have made a few different decisions along the way as far as individual assignment preferences, but I never wanted to be anything but a fighter pilot so it was an easy choice for me to go for it. But along the way, I also made sure I had a backup plan because there are no guarantees.
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U got a good point. I think i might just get a 4 year degree then get a good nice stable and well paying job.
Please dont think you crushed my dreams or anything. U acctally helped me by telling me what i should or shouldent do. And how i could get it.
If i get a good enough job ill get one of these.
(http://www.controller.com/images/Controller/fullsize/75535399.jpg)
Yes u can really buy one of these
F-5 (http://www.controller.com/listings/detail.aspx?OHID=1119651&guid=1063E77FEF25428A8CAACE4E1F3F5286)