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Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: NOT on June 13, 2007, 10:37:54 AM
was in the MA this mornin, and witnessed a player accusing another player of cheating. player 1 was in his UBER LA7, when he was apparently overtaken by player 2, who happened to be in a spit9. after inquireing about his rant on 200, i decided to prove a point.:D  a spit 9 dives really well, so just cuz you in HTCs version of the BFG 9000, and get killed, dont mean the other player was cheating.
(http://[url=http://www.imagecoast.com/][img]http://www.imagecoast.com/images/NOT/spitdive2.jpg)[/url][/IMG]
this pic shows me at bottom of dive in a spit9, in the MA BTW. reached 574 IAS.

 
(http://[url=http://www.imagecoast.com/][img]http://www.imagecoast.com/images/NOT/spitdive3.jpg)[/url][/IMG]
this pic shows the climb out.

that concludes this public service announcement.:aok


NOT
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: jhookt on June 13, 2007, 11:47:52 AM
i fail to see your point. this is typical of most spits.  whats even better is take a spit16 to 10k and then dive straight down, and then watch the plane nose itself up at about 600kias. typh and temp both do the samething.

alas  my poor ki84's elevators fall off at 400kias, so i never get to drive in the left lane.
Title: Re: Diving In A Spit
Post by: MstWntd on June 13, 2007, 11:51:16 AM
Quote
Originally posted by NOT
was in the MA this mornin, and witnessed a player accusing another player of cheating. player 1 was in his UBER LA7, when he was apparently overtaken by player 2, who happened to be in a spit9. after inquireing about his rant on 200, i decided to prove a point.:D  a spit 9 dives really well, so just cuz you in HTCs version of the BFG 9000, and get killed, dont mean the other player was cheating.
(http://[url=http://www.imagecoast.com/][img]http://www.imagecoast.com/images/NOT/spitdive2.jpg)[/url][/IMG]
this pic shows me at bottom of dive in a spit9, in the MA BTW. reached 574 IAS.

 
(http://[url=http://www.imagecoast.com/][img]http://www.imagecoast.com/images/NOT/spitdive3.jpg)[/url][/IMG]
this pic shows the climb out.

that concludes this public service announcement.:aok


NOT



gotta love the background pic
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: LYNX on June 13, 2007, 12:02:21 PM
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Originally posted by jhookt
i fail to see your point.


Yes you are correct you failed to see the point....which is in the above post.  Here......read it this time.

was in the MA this mornin, and witnessed a player accusing another player of cheating. player 1 was in his UBER LA7, when he was apparently overtaken by player 2,

So.....without further confusion the LA7 gezza was caught up by a spitfire that dived on him.  The LA7 gezza was some what vexed that a spit was faster than his Lgay.  Although the lgay can do four hundred and plenty in level flight, it seems a diving spit9 can do five hundred and plenty more.

Here endeth the piss take   :D
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: BaldEagl on June 13, 2007, 12:04:46 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jhookt
i fail to see your point. this is typical of most spits.  whats even better is take a spit16 to 10k and then dive straight down, and then watch the plane nose itself up at about 600kias. typh and temp both do the samething.

alas  my poor ki84's elevators fall off at 400kias, so i never get to drive in the left lane.


You can push the yoke forward or use manual elevator trim to go well beyond 600 ias but you have to be very gentle pulling out or the wings snap off (at least in the Spits).
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: jhookt on June 13, 2007, 12:05:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by LYNX
Yes you are correct you failed to see the point....which is in the above post.  Here......read it this time.

B]was in the MA this mornin, and witnessed a player accusing another player of cheating. player 1 was in his UBER LA7, when he was apparently overtaken by player 2,


So.....without further confusion the LA7 gezza was caught up by a spitfire that dived on him.  The LA7 gezza was some what vexed that a spit was faster than his Lgay.  Although the lgay can do four hundred and plenty in level flight, it seems a diving spit9 can do five hundred and plenty more.

Here endeth the piss take   :D [/B]



ah thank you for the clarification. when put that way the answer is simple. gravity has a larger play in things than your aircrafts performance NOT. and please stop accusing everyone of cheating just becuase you dont think it should be possible.
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: MstWntd on June 13, 2007, 12:09:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by LYNX
Yes you are correct you failed to see the point....which is in the above post.  Here......read it this time.

was in the MA this mornin, and witnessed a player accusing another player of cheating. player 1 was in his UBER LA7, when he was apparently overtaken by player 2,

So.....without further confusion the LA7 gezza was caught up by a spitfire that dived on him.  The LA7 gezza was some what vexed that a spit was faster than his Lgay.  Although the lgay can do four hundred and plenty in level flight, it seems a diving spit9 can do five hundred and plenty more.

Here endeth the piss take   :D


lol lynx
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: Karnak on June 13, 2007, 12:18:02 PM
Spits don't accelerate all that well in a dive, but their terminal dive speed is about the highest of any WWII aircraft.
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: parin on June 13, 2007, 12:19:10 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I have the same desktop background:aok
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: Saxman on June 13, 2007, 12:35:06 PM
My big problem with the Spits is how long they hold on to all that E AFTER a dive. I've seen them maintain distance on heavier birds with higher max level speeds far longer than they should after levelling out.
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: Kev367th on June 13, 2007, 12:42:25 PM
Pic of a Spit used in high speed dive trials 27th April 1944.

Dive resulted in loss of reduction gear and prop.
A previous succesful dive resulted in a speed of 606mph, mach 0.891.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/94/Spitfire_XI_EN_409.jpg/677px-)

Another claim, generally thought to be inaccurate due to the measuring equipment was a Spit F.19 in 1952.
Climbed to 51,550ft (highest ever for a Spit), but the cabin pressure fell below safe levels.
In his haste to reduce alt the pilot lost control, finally regainig control around 3000ft.
Evaluation of the equipment onboard suggested he reached 690mph or mach 0.94.
But as I said at the start, generally thought to be inacurrate.
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: wetrat on June 13, 2007, 12:49:37 PM
Just make sure that when you dive in really fast in a spit, you pull back on your stick REALLY hard to get your shot. The wings can handle it. Trust me on this one :aok
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: wooly15 on June 13, 2007, 01:16:39 PM
Quote
Originally posted by parin
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I have the same desktop background:aok


Me too!
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: CFYA on June 13, 2007, 01:37:41 PM
I too was apart of the conversation on 200. AKNOT was not a part of accusing ANYONE!

AKNot



CFYA
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: B@tfinkV on June 13, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jhookt
ah thank you for the clarification. when put that way the answer is simple. gravity has a larger play in things than your aircrafts performance NOT. and please stop accusing everyone of cheating just becuase you dont think it should be possible.



lol, youre not serious? you must be trolling :)
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: Sketch on June 13, 2007, 04:27:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by jhookt
ah thank you for the clarification. when put that way the answer is simple. gravity has a larger play in things than your aircrafts performance NOT. and please stop accusing everyone of cheating just becuase you dont think it should be possible.

Did he accuse anyone of cheating?  No....   maybe read the post again and it might sink in:
Quote
was in the MA this mornin, and witnessed a player accusing another player of cheating. player 1 was in his UBER LA7, when he was apparently overtaken by player 2, who happened to be in a spit9. after inquireing about his rant on 200, i decided to prove a point. a spit 9 dives really well, so just cuz you in HTCs version of the BFG 9000, and get killed, dont mean the other player was cheating.
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: SkyRock on June 13, 2007, 05:15:06 PM
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Originally posted by wetrat
Just make sure that when you dive in really fast in a spit, you pull back on your stick REALLY hard to get your shot. The wings can handle it. Trust me on this one :aok
LMAO!  :rofl
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: SkyRock on June 13, 2007, 05:15:37 PM
Quote
Originally posted by parin
:rofl :rofl :rofl
I have the same desktop background:aok
Me 3!
Title: Diving In A Spit
Post by: Angry Samoan on June 13, 2007, 06:43:04 PM
(http://www.imagecoast.com/images/NOT/spitdive3.jpg)


wtg mangy!!