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Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Guppy35 on June 15, 2007, 02:17:35 AM
Had some good scraps with the 109s.  Kinda liked this lucky shot I got after dancing for a bit.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Snap2.jpg)


But then there were a couple of HO guys who folks were grumbling about and I took the brunt of it from one of them.  Somehow I got the wreck down on the ground deadstick and in flames, but the guy then shot me on the ground :)

Ahh but they gave me a new plane and I got em back a couple times
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Snap4-2.jpg)
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 15, 2007, 07:46:13 AM
I had a good time until I lost my UDP, right after Duke slapped me down for the second time. I figured that was a sign that my night was over.

One thing I'd like point out. There was a lot of complaining going on last night. Everybody needs to take a deep breath and relax.

HO's I see very few, I saw only two attempts at pure HOing on me last night. Hurri IIs both occasions. I was able to avoid both. There are always shots on me I'm tempted to call HO's, but actually just more high angle manuvers, where they get their nose around before I do. Also if I'm chasing a manuvering enemy and somebody comes in to clear him and in my manuvers his angle of attack is straight in my face............... That's the cost of doing business, I should had dispatched his friend quicker.

Ganging, vultching, and other bad behavior. I saw a lot of complaining about this last night as well. When I logged on around 10:00 PM EST it was 13 allied against 8 axis. I went straight to the axis side. The field we were using was being vultched. Nobody complained, the regulars just figured it was a new guy and soon somebody drove him away.  The point i'm making is........ Nobody raised hell on 200 and i never saw that again.

The real complaining was people making accusations of ganging. Every fight I participated in last night started with rougly equal sides, one side or the other would start getting the upper hand. Sometimes the axis ended up winning the battle, sometimes the allies. The last few survivors on  etheir losing side would end up totally outnumbered............ At one point I felt all alone in the world as my C202 was surrounded by red. I did the best I could, but I knew my situation was the result of the other axis around me being shot down, not an overt attempt of ganging. I was the last piece of chicken on the platter in a room full of hungry people. Deal with it, no need to complain.

We have a good thing starting here, if everybody will worry about their own conduct and not look for every little reason to cry foul on 200, this place will continue to improve.

This isn't MA, there just are not that many noobs that fly in the AVA. So when you get shot down, you can pretty well bet it was by a guy that's been flying in AH for a while. He doesn't need to HO, Gang, or Vultch to get kills. You probably made a mistake, or were in a bad position to begin with.

Getting on 200 and accusing people of breaking this rule or that rule is not going to help. Now that rules are posted in the MOTD, that seems to be producing a lot of Sky Lawyers who want to hold court everytime they get shot down. If they are going to post standards of behavior #1 should be Don't scream the sky is falling.

Theres just not a room full of NOOBS that you can wade through and dispatch with no effort like in the big arenas. You have to work for your kills here, and you have to work to survive to land them. There's no easy button folks. That's the beauty of this arena. So let's concentrate on the positive aspects and leave the whines in kiddie pool.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Oldman731 on June 15, 2007, 07:59:40 AM
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Originally posted by Shifty
We have a good thing starting here, if everybody will worry about their own conduct and not look for every little reason to cry foul on 200, this place will continue to improve.

Good explanation of how the ganging most often occurs, Shifty, and, of course, wonderful advice on how to respond.

This setup is a particularly good test of self-restraint.  Spit 9s and Hurri IICs - especially in combination, and even more so when flown in groups - take extra effort to view as a challenges rather than irritants.  

Because of kids' graduation events I haven't made it on as much as I'd like this week, but it's good to hear that people are generally trying to keep their heads up!

- oldman
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: TheBug on June 15, 2007, 10:03:22 AM
Wow another great post!  Well put Shifty :aok


P.S. I also lost UDP at the same time (something went screwy).  And yes I think it was 1Duke1's fault too.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: gusman on June 15, 2007, 10:52:22 AM
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Originally posted by TheBug
Wow another great post!  Well put Shifty :aok


P.S. I also lost UDP at the same time (something went screwy).  And yes I think it was 1Duke1's fault too.


:rofl :rofl :lol

I think it might be your AV software. I turn it off now before signing in and haven't had that problem since:)

Cheers,
gusman44
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 15, 2007, 10:54:45 AM
That was the first time I've lost UDP in moths. I took s a sign from God, that Duke was going to kick my *** the rest of the night, and I might as well go see what Frau Shifty was watching on TV........................... .....

So I could change the channel of course.:D
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Slash27 on June 15, 2007, 11:04:07 AM
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Originally posted by Shifty
Getting on 200 and accusing people of breaking this rule or that rule is not going to help. Now that rules are posted in the MOTD, that seems to be producing a lot of Sky Lawyers who want to hold court everytime they get shot down. If they are going to post standards of behavior #1 should be Don't scream the sky is falling.



  I felt the MOTD was pretty easily understood a suggestion on game play. Not "Do not HO" "Do not gang". Bit  I have already seen a post in the general whining about people "breaking the rules". Maybe a new draft of what we are trying to get across is needed.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Sweet2th on June 15, 2007, 11:10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Shifty


This isn't MA, there just are not that many noobs that fly in the AVA. So when you get shot down, you can pretty well bet it was by a guy that's been flying in AH for a while. He doesn't need to HO, Gang, or Vultch to get kills. You probably made a mistake, or were in a bad position to begin with.

 


Tell that to Slash27 in his Bf-110-G

Tell that to 1Duke1 in his Bf-109


I was involved in a 3 Vs.1 and Got HO'ed by all three of them.If a person is jumped by 3 enemy planes the one plane will HO shoot, any shoot to get out of the 3 Vs. 1 situation.The 3 enemy planes take that as it's OK for us to do it as well since the 1 plane is.

I mean hey everybody it's a GAME all day long, but if yer gonna say how you don't HO and gang and vulch and are a gentlemen in the AvA, and abide by whats written on the MOTD then at least have the sense to act like it.

On another note we have been promoting game play in this arena all week long starting on sunday and have had 20 + players in there every nite all complaining of the good fights they have been having and how long they have been looking for a good fight.This arena can make a comeback but not if everyone talks  about fair gameplay then does the opposite.


:aok
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 15, 2007, 11:13:16 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
I felt the MOTD was pretty easily understood a suggestion on game play. Not "Do not HO" "Do not gang". Bit  I have already seen a post in the general whining about people "breaking the rules". Maybe a new draft of what we are trying to get across is needed.


I don't know how much more you guys can do. There has to be effort by the AVA community for this to work. I'm not talking about some great big lumbering strain on anybody, just a little self discipline. Sometimes we need to just squelch ourselve's
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: 1Duke1 on June 15, 2007, 11:15:50 AM
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Tell that to 1Duke1 in his Bf-109


Huh?:confused:
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Guppy35 on June 15, 2007, 11:22:18 AM
What shouldn't happen, but does, is that once someone gets HO'd or ganged in their opinion, the general response is to do it right back which gets the cycle going again.

It's still my choice not to engage in that kind of flying.  

If there is one guy pushing the HO's or whatever, it doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

The fights were still great fun
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 15, 2007, 11:23:33 AM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
Tell that to Slash27 in his Bf-110-G

Tell that to 1Duke1 in his Bf-109


I was involved in a 3 Vs.1 and Got HO'ed by all three of them.If a person is jumped by 3 enemy planes the one plane will HO shoot, any shoot to get out of the 3 Vs. 1 situation.The 3 enemy planes take that as it's OK for us to do it as well since the 1 plane is.

I mean hey everybody it's a GAME all day long, but if yer gonna say how you don't HO and gang and vulch and are a gentlemen in the AvA, and abide by whats written on the MOTD then at least have the sense to act like it.

On another note we have been promoting game play in this arena all week long starting on sunday and have had 20 + players in there every nite all complaining of the good fights they have been having and how long they have been looking for a good fight.This arena can make a comeback but not if everyone talks  about fair gameplay then does the opposite.


:aok

 I'm not saying they never have, but I have never been HO'd by Slash or Duke.  They don't need to. Throwing out names and accusations is exactly what we don't need on 200, or in the forums.

Look at Guppys screenshot.

Great high angle kill on that 109. Reverse positions of the camera looking from the 109 pilots vantage point, it very well could look like a HO.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: JimBeam on June 15, 2007, 11:29:30 AM
i had alot of fun in the AvA also last night every fight we stubbled into was a good fight. all though i am one who cried wolf once but it did kind of seem like alittle over kill using 10 109s on 3 low p40's but it turn out to be a fun little fight i last alot longer than i expected overall game play was very enjoyable none of the usual "dweebie" things you see in the MA's i think im going to start flying in there more was really alot of fun
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 15, 2007, 11:35:06 AM
Glad to see you'll be in more Jim.:aok
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: JimBeam on June 15, 2007, 11:41:48 AM
yeah ill have to check the roster to see if your on each time so ill know to keep an eye on my 6 for that sneaky 202 of yours :D
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 15, 2007, 11:48:26 AM
I do recall I didn't geta chance to gloat over it. You evened the score the following sortie. In fact you must have shot my mojo off. :lol

 After you killed me everybody started killing me.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: JimBeam on June 15, 2007, 11:54:17 AM
lol i was wondering what that strange looking object was that i shot off your plane :)
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Slash27 on June 15, 2007, 02:41:30 PM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
Tell that to Slash27 in his Bf-110-G

Tell that to 1Duke1 in his Bf-109


I was involved in a 3 Vs.1 and Got HO'ed by all three of them.If a person is jumped by 3 enemy planes the one plane will HO shoot, any shoot to get out of the 3 Vs. 1 situation.The 3 enemy planes take that as it's OK for us to do it as well since the 1 plane is.

I mean hey everybody it's a GAME all day long, but if yer gonna say how you don't HO and gang and vulch and are a gentlemen in the AvA, and abide by whats written on the MOTD then at least have the sense to act like it.

On another note we have been promoting game play in this arena all week long starting on sunday and have had 20 + players in there every nite all complaining of the good fights they have been having and how long they have been looking for a good fight.This arena can make a comeback but not if everyone talks  about fair gameplay then does the opposite.


:aok
 


Clarify. I ho'd you in a 3 vs 1 or I have to ho you to kill you?  What did I miss?
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: JimBeam on June 15, 2007, 02:51:57 PM
yeah i couldnt make much sense of that either
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Sweet2th on June 15, 2007, 07:05:22 PM
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Originally posted by 1Duke1
Huh?:confused:



1Duke1 Vs. VF4nik8r, he went round with you 3 times 1 Vs. 1 and you HO'd him all 3  times.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Sweet2th on June 15, 2007, 07:08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Clarify. I ho'd you in a 3 vs 1 or I have to ho you to kill you?  What did I miss?



You were HO'ing everyone you came into contact with in a 110.


I agree the MOTD is helping just a little, but if your gonna talk the talk, then walk the walk and try to spread this around.I mean dang i had 3 squaddies askin for permission to HO so as not to be labled in a bad way.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Gulp on June 15, 2007, 07:10:04 PM
Having fun in AvA.   There was some ganging and a few Hos last night but I think if guys stick around a bit and get some friendly advice from the vets on their team they will back off the unwanted stuff.

Not HOing is easy enough but it is easy to go from a fair fight to ganging if 1 side loses a few guys in a furball quickly.  When ganged badly I may make a lighthearted comment with a  .  I don't engage in any 200 arguing or insulting but I think it's ok to politely let the new guys know whats different about AvA.

I notice the new scenario msg doesn't get specific about HOing, ect.  Would it be better or worse to list a few unwanted tactics?

Anyway, lots of fun and looking forward to flying the 109F tonight (flew allies due to # this afternoon).   Had some good fights today.

Aspen
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Dichotomy on June 15, 2007, 07:58:44 PM
I had a funny night last night.. 1st sortie land 3 kills next 4 I fell into a sea of red and they all seemed really angry at me for some reason :D

As I see it let the community police themselves and see how it comes out.  I stated in a post a couple of months ago that my first night in ava I vulched a guy coming off a field.  A reg pm'd me and explained the 'rules' politely and I've followed them to the best of my ability since.  

PM is a great way AFTER you've taken a deep breath to explain the situation where you're not publicly calling out someone.  

I will say this.  I'd rather fly with and against the core group than anywhere else in the game and I get excited when I log on and see any of them in the arena.  I don't care how many times I kill or get killed it's just fun to play the game with them.

Just my .02.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Grits on June 15, 2007, 08:14:50 PM
Just to clarify, Duke and Slash are my Hoes.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: TheBug on June 15, 2007, 08:23:53 PM
I think the message should be removed... seems to do more harm than good.  IMO of course.

I also think Sweet2th should be removed.  Why are people so dense?  All these efforts to treat the symptoms instead of the disease.  With the treatments truly just a contribution to the disease.  Community, Community Community!!  How many times does it have to be said?  Being respectful, polite, constructive, instructing and good sports is the cure.  No matter what the Staffers put in that MOTD will have any positive effect, it all comes down on the shoulders of all the guys flying in the AvA.  

The people that just can't seem to grasp this, imo, should just leave.  Their presence to "boost" the population is exponentially countered by their bad will, mouthy attitudes and disrespect. Positive actions create positive responses.  Negative actions and soon you you will have bugs crawling in your head. :aok
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Slash27 on June 15, 2007, 09:53:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
You were HO'ing everyone you came into contact with in a 110.


I agree the MOTD is helping just a little, but if your gonna talk the talk, then walk the walk and try to spread this around.I mean dang i had 3 squaddies askin for permission to HO so as not to be labled in a bad way.




You are an odd one. Act one way in the arena and then come on the BBS with this stuff. Intresting.


 As far as the "HO'ing everyone you came into contact with in a 110". I explained to you after you PM'd me what was up. After the 5 vs 1 gang I told you watch out for the 110 because he is going to ho. (me being the 110) I was going to eradicate all people in red any way possible due to the constant ganging at the time. This was a brief window when this occured. Should I have done it? Some would agree, some wont. After things settled down I went back to business as usual. 99.9%  of the time I will not take the head on shot in the AvA unless my opponent takes it first. And even then its just a judgement call on whether to return it on avoid. Hos are not against the rules in the AvA.

 My take on how I fly is this.I dont care for mindless jousting. To me the fun is outflying the guy for the kill. Not cherry picking the furball,  not ganging up on a lone con ,not taking the HO and then running, and not taking a half hearted BnZ pass and then climbing for the moon. Thats my way.

You and your squaddies do as you like. Fly by your code and have fun. You bring numbers to the AvA , enhance the fights, and I have seen zero abuse on 200 from you guys. I think thats great

 You have something to discuss with me or questions shoot me a PM. Its would probably be more productive the calling me out on the BBS. This forum is full of that stuff and it never amounted to a damn thing.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Grits on June 15, 2007, 11:30:16 PM
Not getting HO'd is like getting a check6, they are both a gift and you should not assume that will always happen. If you have an opponent that does not HO, fine, if you have one that does, fine too just prepare for it.

I the big scheme of things what difference does it make? Just up another plane and fight again.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: 1Duke1 on June 16, 2007, 01:28:08 AM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
1Duke1 Vs. VF4nik8r, he went round with you 3 times 1 Vs. 1 and you HO'd him all 3  times.


Ya know...I wasn't gonna get into this, but I just spent the better part of an hour that I could have been flying reviewing the film of my online time last night.....just to make sure the beer I had hadn't impaired my recollection of the events.  Nope, remembered it pretty much like it happened (just one of the things that was pounded into us during ACM training).

First off, before you go posting something like this on the BBS, you might wanna make sure you have your facts straight, or you could wind up looking like a complete imbecile.  

Second...like slash has stated, if you have a problem with the way I fly, then either PM me in the game, PM me here on the boards, or send me an email (linky is at the bottom).  Whichever way, I will be more than happy to explain what/why/how (if I can) I did what I did.

Now as for last night, it is true that I fought against your squadmate, but we met only twice, and not three times.   The first encounter I found him engaged in a multiple vs. single (uh...he wasn't the single) fight, and jumped into the fracas.  As things evened out a bit, it was just us, and I wound up taking him out with a high angle deflection shot that killed the pilot.  I can see where this may have *looked* like a HO to him, but was not.

Second encounter, we started out 1v1 and I quickly gained his six.  He headed towards a friendly P40e, who entered the fight.  Tbarone, who had been staying high and out of the fight, came down to make a 2v2.  The 40 was buky something, and between Tbarone and me, we dispatched both planes.  Buky whined on 200 that he was leaving until things "got cleaned up" and was gone.  Never in that fight did I take anything that could even resemble a HO.  

There was only one guy that I intentionally hoed last night, and that was brogy....we came to a merge, and he started firing, I avoided and on the second merge took him out.  If it's a 1v1, and you attempt to HO me on the first merge, you better make sure you kill me.

Thank you



BTW...Grits.....you told me you dumped Slash:confused: :(
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: TheBug on June 16, 2007, 07:10:18 AM
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Originally posted by 1Duke1


First off, before you go posting something like this on the BBS, you might wanna make sure you have your facts straight, or you could wind up looking like a complete imbecile.  

 


Hehe, apparently you don't know sweet2th.  Past history shows that is the least of his worries.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Sweet2th on June 16, 2007, 08:28:02 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
You are an odd one. Act one way in the arena and then come on the BBS with this stuff. Intresting.


 As far as the "HO'ing everyone you came into contact with in a 110". I explained to you after you PM'd me what was up. After the 5 vs 1 gang I told you watch out for the 110 because he is going to ho. (me being the 110) I was going to eradicate all people in red any way possible due to the constant ganging at the time. This was a brief window when this occured. Should I have done it? Some would agree, some wont. After things settled down I went back to business as usual. 99.9%  of the time I will not take the head on shot in the AvA unless my opponent takes it first. And even then its just a judgement call on whether to return it on avoid. Hos are not against the rules in the AvA.

 My take on how I fly is this.I dont care for mindless jousting. To me the fun is outflying the guy for the kill. Not cherry picking the furball,  not ganging up on a lone con ,not taking the HO and then running, and not taking a half hearted BnZ pass and then climbing for the moon. Thats my way.

You and your squaddies do as you like. Fly by your code and have fun. You bring numbers to the AvA , enhance the fights, and I have seen zero abuse on 200 from you guys. I think thats great

 You have something to discuss with me or questions shoot me a PM. Its would probably be more productive the calling me out on the BBS. This forum is full of that stuff and it never amounted to a damn thing.


I choose not to say anything in GAME.I am actually surprised that it was you doing that to be totally honest.

As for the rest of these Dee Da Dee's i never really cared what any of them think, never have and i never will.My main goal has always been to fill the arena with players.

I feel if your gonna post a MOTD sayin that the AvA STAFF SUGGESTS THAT YOU DO NOT HO < GANG< AND OR VULCH then the AvA STAFF members should not fly around HOing Vulching and or GANGING.:aok


Does alot of good to promote this arena to new players on the selling point that it isn't the MA same same, this is what mostly draws them in and the 1 Vs. 1 action what keeps them in.But when they see the MOTD and then see people totally ignoring it oh yea that makes the NEW PLAYERS wanna stay all right

Dee

Da

Dee

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Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 16, 2007, 09:37:59 AM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th



Does alot of good to promote this arena to new players on the selling point that it isn't the MA same same, this is what mostly draws them in and the 1 Vs. 1 action what keeps them in.But when they see the MOTD and then see people totally ignoring it oh yea that makes the NEW PLAYERS wanna stay all right

Dee

Da

Dee

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The idea is not to intefere with a 1v1 unless a guy asks for help.
Nowhere in the MOTD does it gaurantee 1v1's. Plus very few new guys are looking for pure 1v1's and you know that.  Many new guys have never flown in an arena with limited planesets. The first time they get their 109 blasted by a Hurri IIC, and can't up a Hurri IIc of their own to retaliate is probably a bit of an eye opener. That's what this arena offers is the historical plane matchup. That's the draw, not 1v1's, I don't understand where you get the opinion AVA is for 1v1's.

 The nature of the AVA at the present time is that it usually boils down to a single furball between two bases. Anybody who has flown in here more than a couple of times knows the pattern. Anybody in here for the first time should be able to see the patteren immediatly. It's always a single furball between two bases.

To engage in the furball, then whine when you get shot down, or to whine because your side is whittled away to the point where your outnumbered for a couple of minutes is lame. It happens to everybody that flys in here, probably everytime they fly in here.

It's not one side beating up on the other, it's a few people thinking that whining is going to somehow eliminate the fact they got shot down. It doesn't, if nothing else it just highlights their lack maturity. Everybody gets shot down sooner or later, everybody gets outnumbered sooner or later. I'll go 4 or 5 sorties getting spanked each one sometimes before I get into the flow of the fight.

Again worry about your own conduct and the rest will take care of it'self.

Posting negative crap here, or spouting negative crap on 200 doesn't help the arena. If you can't see that, or can't refrain from it, it's obvious your own ego and self promotion come before what people are trying to do to bring the AVA back up.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Mighty01 on June 16, 2007, 10:14:07 AM
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Originally posted by Grits
Just to clarify, Duke and Slash are my Hoes.
and just to remind you, penny-pinching scroundel. You need to pay up for the services I provided you with my best two honeybunnies! Or I will have to send Superdud after you to collect it out of your backside, SAVEY!
I provide you with the best crop of hoes this side of the FL/GA line and you think you can skimp out on paying your debt. Boy, you better be glad I am not sending Amos Moses down to get you, you know who I'm talkin bout!

Amos Moses (http://www.lyricsdownload.com/jerry-reed-amos-moses-lyrics.html)

Mighty01
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Slash27 on June 16, 2007, 10:37:23 AM
Amos Moses:rofl
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Grits on June 16, 2007, 11:16:47 AM
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Originally posted by Mighty01
and just to remind you, penny-pinching scroundel. You need to pay up for the services I provided you with my best two honeybunnies! Or I will have to send Superdud after you to collect it out of your backside, SAVEY!
I provide you with the best crop of hoes this side of the FL/GA line and you think you can skimp out on paying your debt. Boy, you better be glad I am not sending Amos Moses down to get you, you know who I'm talkin bout!

Amos Moses (http://www.lyricsdownload.com/jerry-reed-amos-moses-lyrics.html)

Mighty01


Just to re-clarify,

Supertard couldnt collect his arse if he was sitting on his hands,

and anyone who knows Duke and Slash know they are CHEAP Hoes.


LOL @ Amos Moses
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Mighty01 on June 16, 2007, 12:14:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Grits
Just to re-clarify,

Supertard couldnt collect his arse if he was sitting on his hands,

and anyone who knows Duke and Slash know they are CHEAP Hoes.


LOL @ Amos Moses


laughing at Amos Moses are ya, in that case then Im a gonna senda the DOG, SAVEY?

"In Dog We Trust" (http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/) :lol

Mighty01
ps_  I need that 50 cents to buy my hoes some breathe mints
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: plank on June 16, 2007, 02:17:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mighty01
laughing at Amos Moses are ya, in that case then Im a gonna senda the DOG, SAVEY?

"In Dog We Trust" (http://www.dogthebountyhunter.com/) :lol

Mighty01
ps_  I need that 50 cents to buy my hoes some breathe mints



Bear mace, gah!
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Platano on June 16, 2007, 02:47:25 PM
I just log off whenever I feel the need to B*tch bout somthing(as I did thursday Night)...I save that for the MA's :D
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Sweet2th on June 16, 2007, 04:42:46 PM
I just wish everyone would abide by the MOTD then it would be a whole lot more fun.


Seems some of you don't like being called out on your HO shootin.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Dichotomy on June 16, 2007, 07:30:18 PM
*sighs*

tooth I respect your skill but have you missed the point of the pm?  Nobody likes to be called out publicly especially on message boards and in game.  It accomplishes absolutely NOTHING.  Never has and, in my very vast experience on online communities, it never will.  If you think I HO you, gang you, vulch you, kick your dog, steal your wallet, etc.., by all means fire away.  I've had worse online and I'll either say a) sorry dude or b) I disagree with your point of view but understand your frustration.  But IN MY OPINION it's better served to keep it out of public view and discuss any situation behind the scenes.  Who knows you might make a new friend out of an old enemy.  

Fighting on the internet accomplishes nothing more than making the participants look like a bunch of angst ridden teenagers with emo themed myspace profiles.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Grits on June 16, 2007, 08:55:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
I just wish everyone would abide by the MOTD then it would be a whole lot more fun.


Seems some of you don't like being called out on your HO shootin.


I will HO you and not even flinch, nor feel a twinge of guilt about it. You need to lighten up.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Slash27 on June 16, 2007, 09:12:57 PM
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
I just wish everyone would abide by the MOTD then it would be a whole lot more fun.


Seems some of you don't like being called out on your HO shootin.


Seems you are the same guy you have always been despite your claims otherwise.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Oldman731 on June 16, 2007, 10:40:55 PM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Seems you are the same guy you have always been despite your claims otherwise.

Is this the place where I can say "I know what you are, but what am I?"

Geez, stop it, both of you.  The kids will hear you.

- oldman
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: kilz on June 21, 2007, 04:34:10 PM
ok heres my take. I have known Slash and Duke a long time and have fought them for a long time. Slash has yet to ho me (in the AvA), i think he hos in in the MA for laughter LOL but still not many in the MA. Duke has never hoed me, he has helped me when i get ganged (like 3,4,5 v 1) he offers it when its 2 v 1 but i say no cause i love those fights. both of these gents are good sticks (Slash needs some more training tho hehehe). If you are set on saying the peopled hoed you then send in a film or snap shot showing they hoed you to their email or PM it to them. enough is enough on this board. wasting space with this stuff. if you think they have to ho you to win the fight then do a 1v1 in a distant spot in the AvA and have someone trust worthy to watch it. :aok
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Slash27 on June 21, 2007, 06:06:53 PM
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
(Slash needs some more training tho hehehe



GV training for sure. I cant remember the last time I died that many times in such a short span. You guys should be mindful of my fragile ego.:(
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 21, 2007, 08:00:16 PM
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
ok heres my take. I have known Slash and Duke a long time and have fought them for a long time. Slash has yet to ho me (in the AvA), i think he hos in in the MA for laughter LOL but still not many in the MA. Duke has never hoed me, he has helped me when i get ganged (like 3,4,5 v 1) he offers it when its 2 v 1 but i say no cause i love those fights. both of these gents are good sticks (Slash needs some more training tho hehehe). If you are set on saying the peopled hoed you then send in a film or snap shot showing they hoed you to their email or PM it to them. enough is enough on this board. wasting space with this stuff. if you think they have to ho you to win the fight then do a 1v1 in a distant spot in the AvA and have someone trust worthy to watch it. :aok


:aok   spot on....... could say the same myself.......

also like to add, I am not much for giving any trust to a screen shot, they can be manipulated to where it looks like a HO or it looks like a High Angle Deflection.best and only way to prove a true HO incident is to offer up the film for proof....

just saying.........
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: B@tfinkV on June 22, 2007, 12:56:46 AM
flew last night (thurs) and it was great fun.  there was one guy who hoed me but think he was a newb.

had a great fight 5 on 1 in my spit5, enemy all in 190s. none of them Hoed and in the end i got ripped apart.

was really enjoyable and everyone was having fun.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: kilz on June 22, 2007, 03:57:26 AM
i hear ya TC i just not smart enough to change the pictures like that heck i cant even take the names off of them
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Shifty on June 22, 2007, 08:17:16 AM
Good fun last night Bat.

I had a great 1v1 on my last sortie against Tankman.  One of the funnest fights I've had in a while. It ended though when I didn't see his turn signal and collided into the back of him.
Sorry Tank good flying!
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Dichotomy on June 22, 2007, 07:49:28 PM
I haven't been able to fly since MONDAY!!!! :cry

And tonight isn't looking so good either :(

Somebody go crash my plane into a mountain a few times for me so my score looks right ;)
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Mighty01 on June 22, 2007, 09:30:04 PM
last night was wonderful in the beginning, was 1 vs 1's,  2vs 1's, 1 vs 2's, 3 vs 3's, and hardly any single HOing or gang banging at all. When I logged on jamusta asked to not crowd the field where the luftys were liftin.

and it went on that way for a good hour or more. right about that time though, when Shifty logged and then Batfink logged things began to swing the other way. TCFKas switched to try and even the sides, he moved from Lufty to alliedy.

but the Luftys had went into horde with alt mentality I do declare, yes sir. I had took off from I think it was A17 and low and behold there were 8 High alt 109s and 190s I was at 4k alt and the counter showed them 3k higher, so they were at what is that yes 13,000 feet and right at the towns edge.

I went to rev and was quickly dispatched by no less than 5 zooming birds of dolts. So I says to myself, I says Mighty, you need to do this another way, yes sir. So's I take of from A4 and grab alt toward A17.  when I arrived at A17, I was almost to 8k alt coming by the field. and what do you think I ran in to? You guessed it, it was 10 109s~190s and they were roughly 12 to 15k alt.  so me in this little hurri1 dove toward the deck, yes I did. and I counted 8 of them turning and whirling and burning with me. as I was on my way down. ended up being 4 or 5 down low scraping the terraferma off the tiles. at that point i called it a night.

TCF, CFYA, you 2 were the only 2 true gentlemen flying at the time until  TCF switched over to allied. am unsure what caused the sudden change in gameplay, but it reminded me of the rooks hitting the bish or knits in 1 of them LW arenas. grab to 20k above your own base then fly to 30K before they get to the base they gonna attack.

I did get a few proxie kills though. them dolts do not realize that dropping oon a plane 100 foot off the ground when they are 7k alt does not leave much room to jockey from being compressed ROFL.

for most part though, fun fights and entertainment last night til the pendolum swung off the horde meter.

Mighty01
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: Mighty01 on June 22, 2007, 09:38:20 PM
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Originally posted by Grits
I will HO you and not even flinch,  

well I do declare my Grits. If I knew you went both ways like that I would of asked if you wanted me to set you up with some fine southern gentlemen. you know the ones, they like ham and eggs and sure would love some nice buttered up Grits that like to HO around ;)

let me know, and I'll let Sweet2th be ya first customer. unless you still really are interested in that Bug character.  :cool:
I be sure to give you everything but my 20% commissioning fee for doing the legwork for ya though.
Title: Symbolic of my night in AvA Thursday
Post by: scottydawg on June 29, 2007, 09:16:17 AM
One thing that has taken me a long time to really understand is this:

If I get ganged, it's usually my own fault for letting it happen.