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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on June 15, 2007, 10:40:12 AM
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They are saying that if these computers dont reboot, the station could lose its attitude for converting solar energy, and lose all power. Once the Shuttle has to uncage, and it has to uncage eventually, the Space Staion will start to tumble as a result of the shuttle seperation, and the Space Station will have to be abandoned, and will disintegrate as it falls back to earth.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/06/15/space.shuttle.ap/index.html
I will be Pissed if your RUSSIAN COMPUTERS TANK THE SPACE STATION :mad:
Just wait, the russians will blame it on Bush :rolleyes:
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They are actually German computers.
shamus
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Better coverage than CNN:
http://uplink.space.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=missions
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These computers are in the Russian sphere of ISS control, these computers are the reponsibility of Russian engineers, these computers are controlled by Russian ground controllers......
Therefore, for all intents and puposes, these computers, whether manufactured in Taiwan or Germany, are RUSSIAN!
Thanks for your little bit of inconsequential information shamus
:rolleyes:
PS Interesting stuff moot, will review.
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No problem Yeager glad to help, I guess that makes my German car maintained by an American dealer an American car.
shamus
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Depends on whether your hispanic or asian?
Can I help you with anything else?
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It only matters if your grounds keeper is Hispanic, that will make your house Mexican Shamus :)
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I cant find a link to the german computers........wheres the info?
Cant find anything that refers to them other than "three computers in the russian sphere of control" onboard ISS.
So, give me some proof and Ill modify the subject header, otherwise it stands :rolleyes: and we get to saddle up Boroda for a ride :D
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Originally posted by Yeager
and we get to saddle up Boroda for a ride :D
:lol
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Sorry guys, was too busy recently, didn't watch the news, last thing I have heard was about a fake fire-alarm that came from a computer in a US zone on ISS.
Browsing through Russian news sites now...
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Hmm, so they again lied to us on TV!!! :D
http://lenta.ru/articles/2007/06/15/iss/ (link in Russian)
They say that probable cause of the malfunction is a "noise" in power lines caused by new solar panels.
Funny that "Russian" computers are so sensitive to such things. Soviet designes produced after 1972 are Elbrus super-computers used in defence and some special digital systems mostly also used in defence (submarines, planes, radars etc). In 1970 our beloved Party and Government desided to abandon our own general-purpose designs and start cloning IBM/360 and DEC PDP machines...
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Maybe convert to Macintosh?
:D
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Im suprized you Russians never designed your own computer language!
You know...Ones and Zeros :aok
Seriously, I hope this gets worked out. To lose the ISS would be a very unpleasant event.
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Originally posted by Yeager
Im suprized you Russians never designed your own computer language!
You know...Ones and Zeros :aok
You are happy not to know any programming languages based on Cyrillic ABC :rolleyes: I hope you never used a Cyrillic-based "phonetic" keyboard layout: "YCUKENG" instead of "QWERTYU".
IIRC even EL'-76 used on Elbrus supers used Latin letters.
There were some languages in Cyrillic, mostly for kids, but even school PC classes (BK-001Sh) used Focal language in Latin.
Seriously, I hope this gets worked out. To lose the ISS would be a very unpleasant event.
I think they'll find some solution using soldering iron, spare parts from a coffe-machine they'll steal from Shuttle, crowbar and someone's mother ;) I only hope they'll not have to use aspirin instead of killed spirit (soldering acid) :D
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One of the Control Center specialists, said in interview, that the problem arised from poor technical training of an american crew. They made en error durind solar panels mounting, wich caused an extreme static electricity discharge. This discharge became the origin of the backup electrecity lines fault.
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This isn't a time for blaming. This is a time for prayer (if your religious) or hope (that they correct the problem). Cold war is over guys, let's not point fingers.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Cold war is over guys, let's not point fingers.
Why, what else we gonna do with them? :confused:
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that the problem arised from poor technical training of an american crew.
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Yes, but the got their training at star city so dont blame the ameri'afri'asi'euro'latino'cans.
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Originally posted by Estel
One of the Control Center specialists, said in interview, that the problem arised from poor technical training of an american crew. They made en error durind solar panels mounting, wich caused an extreme static electricity discharge. This discharge became the origin of the backup electrecity lines fault.
True, -- it blew the Russian power supply in all three computers.
It turns out the Russians forgot to bring surge suppressors into space. Now, they have to order some from Radio Shack (along with power supplies) and get them into orbit before our space shuttle can safely undock (without tilting the space station out of orbit).
;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
....Cold war is over guys, let's not point fingers.
I was just going to say, it's unfortunate that the press I've seen so far continues to refer to them as 'Russian computers'. Do they do it on purpose, so a Mindless John Q. Public American Citizen (such as myself) can scan the headline and blame the Evil Russians for incompetance and once again feel Superior to the rest of the world? A computer is a computer, and on an 'International' Space Station it shouldn't matter who's doing what or who's responsible for what. I'd like to think the press would be quick to headline 'U.S. computers' if that were the case......finger pointing is one of the great American Pastimes, as long as we're not pointing at ourselves.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
This isn't a time for blaming. This is a time for prayer (if your religious) or hope (that they correct the problem). Cold war is over guys, let's not point fingers.
Really, it's not a big problem. The flywheels (gyrodin) can be stopped and station orientation will be kept in old way, with RCS. So, the whole situation is not danger, but just annoying.
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finger pointing is one of the great American Pastimes, as long as we're not pointing at ourselves.
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Dont be so dense fer chrysakes. Show me a nationality, and Ill show you a finger pointing RIGHT BACK at you :rolleyes:
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it's all americas fault, german/russian computers would never fail, they are perfect.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
True, -- it blew the Russian power supply in all three computers.
It turns out the Russians forgot to bring surge suppressors into space. Now, they have to order some from Radio Shack (along with power supplies) and get them into orbit before our space shuttle can safely undock (without tilting the space station out of orbit).
;)
Imagine what static charges can build up in vacuum in such a complicated system with a dozen of solar panels. Guys simply forgot to "ground themselves" (remember all that 1980s expansion card manuals?) and sent many kiloVolts into station's electrical grid. This may be a ground control fault as well... Sorry, but Americans still can't maintain a 24/7 ground control communication, that Soviet space stations had since mid-1980s via Looch (Ray) sattelites. IIRC since Salyut-7, but I may be mistaken, at that time we had two manned space stations orbiting.
Now it's no use finding who's to blame, it's time to give some spare parts to Russians and try to survive without coffee-makers until landing :D
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Originally posted by Yeager
that the problem arised from poor technical training of an american crew.
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Yes, but the got their training at star city so dont blame the ameri'afri'asi'euro'latino'cans.
Star City = "Zvezdniy Gorodok"? LOL "Gorodok" means more like a "small town". I thought that guys doing an EVA job were from American Shuttle crew, it's quite reasonable, they are right from below and didn't suffer from long-time zero-G, so they can definetly perform better in space-suits then guys who stayed up there for months. And girls... AAA!!! it's all because of a woman on board!!!! :D
About all that "cans" - we had a Mongolian cosmonaut at Salyut-6. As well as Cubans, Canadians, etc, we only didn't have Africans up there (or was there an Ethiopian guy?), and they all did their job. The first guy from the US who stayed at Mir for several months was a real trouble :( People say that Russian crew members had to massage his face and lock him away for some time - he behaved like a freshmen girl, always scared, hating the food (that was selected according to his own choice), hysterical and crying like "let me out of here!!!".... :(
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Boroda, you should move to america, you will have great career as comedy man, make many laughs.
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Originally posted by john9001
Boroda, you should move to america, you will have great career as comedy man, make many laughs.
Well, do you have a decent agent who will work for me for some decent money, so i'll not have to live in a ****hole with a "roommate", but have at least a 3-room flat for myself 25min from center of a megapolis like I what i got here in our big village called Moscow?
If facts make you guys laugh - I can only pity you.
Here in this thread I am answering your questions. In fact - Estel is answering them. he's closer to the sources, I am just reasoning.
What made you so happy in my posts? That USSR had two manned space stations in 1986-87? That we had a relay-sattelite to provide 24/7 ground control communication?
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Exaggeration, hysteria, and blowing all bad news out of proportion are also of the great American Pastimes. Oh noes! We crashed the computers, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
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Originally posted by Viking
Exaggeration, hysteria, and blowing all bad news out of proportion are also of the great American Pastimes. Oh noes! We crashed the computers, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!
Same **** here in "democratic" Russia now :(
When in late-90s Russian Mir crew crashed a cargo ship into one of the docked modules during manual docking, unpressurising the station, they only afforded one short "unprintable" word. This guys have no nerves.
Russian approach: "don't worry, we'll fix it" (razberyomsya!)
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Well, I got a 1.5L bubble of strong beer from a fridge, opened a pack of smoked Armenian cheese, brought a pack of small cigars, lighter and an ash-tray, prepared for fun, and NOONE else wants to persuade me into working as a clown in the US!?
I am disappointed :( You guys ruin my friday night! For the first time in several weeks I am alone and can afford a good, encouraging flame-war!
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Originally posted by Boroda
Well, I got a 1.5L bubble of strong beer from a fridge, opened a pack of smoked Armenian cheese, brought a pack of small cigars, lighter and an ash-tray, prepared for fun, and NOONE else wants to persuade me into working as a clown in the US!?
I am disappointed :( You guys ruin my friday night! For the first time in several weeks I am alone and can afford a good, encouraging flame-war!
OK - your mother wears Army boots :)
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the whole thread is lead by amateurs who dont know jack about
what they are talking, yet they yell so loud, LOL.
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Originally posted by Shamus
No problem Yeager glad to help, I guess that makes my German car maintained by an American dealer an American car.
shamus
It is silly to equalate a space agent and a car dealer, there is a lot more responsiblity of the russians to use proper equipment and not cut cheaply corners.
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Originally posted by culero
OK - your mother wears Army boots :)
My Mother lives in Queensland, Australia, and wears slippers. I do wear boots 6 months in a year, and now I wear American desert boots, they are damn good in Russian winter.
Next please :)
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Oh sure, we believe your story :)
OK, then - your mother is ugly and she dresses you funny. Take that!
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Originally posted by culero
Oh sure, we believe your story :)
OK, then - your mother is ugly and she dresses you funny. Take that!
How old are you? Does your mother still dress you?
How about some common sense? How do you think a mother can dress her 34 year old kid when she lives in Australia and he lives in Russia?!
:D
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how could your mother leave the workers paradise of Russia and move to the capitalistic country of Australia ?
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Originally posted by john9001
how could your mother leave the workers paradise of Russia and move to the capitalistic country of Australia ?
Capitalistic?!
Australia is a country of Victorious Socialism!
One day they, mates, will conquer every other country. I wish I'll live until that day. A whole continent of people who are like born in SPb, like me. "Who cares, mate?"
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I find reading Boroda's posts more comedic if I insert the "Baghdad Bob" voice.
They fixed the computer, faulty power cable. But Im sure Comrade Baroda will find a way to fault the Americans.
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Originally posted by LePaul
I find reading Boroda's posts more comedic if I insert the "Baghdad Bob" voice.
I cannot not read his posts without that voice in my head.
Seriously, I've tried.
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the whole thread is lead by amateurs who dont know jack
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Leave Jack out of this.
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Originally posted by LePaul
I find reading Boroda's posts more comedic if I insert the "Baghdad Bob" voice.
They fixed the computer, faulty power cable. But Im sure Comrade Baroda will find a way to fault the Americans.
Did they fix it already?
I am just sitting here getting drunk...
About Americans to blame: imagine yourself working in a space-suit, standard pressure - 7km, special pressure (so you can bend your hands) is 12km, go try doing something under such conditions.
Guys were probably too exausted and noone to tell them to "ground themselves". **** happens.
As I said before: no use blaming each other, they have to deal with the problem, and I am sure they'll fix it. They have two Russian engineers aboard! ;)
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Originally posted by Boroda
Guys were probably too exausted and noone to tell them to "ground themselves". **** happens.
Perhaps grounding (earthing to our English friends) anything on ISS would be either difficult or disasterous.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Perhaps grounding (earthing to our English friends) anything on ISS would be either difficult or disasterous.
I only quoted manuals from some ooold PC expansion boards: "Before inserting the board - ground yourself". Maybe it's Chinese English? They have some kind of a bus used as "ground" in electrical grid on ISS, don;t they?...
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I was being more literal than you are taking it.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I was being more literal than you are taking it.
Thanks for explaining.
English is a foreign language for me, so don't expect me to understand everything you mean.
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Originally posted by Boroda
Thanks for explaining.
English is a foreign language for me, so don't expect me to understand everything you mean.
Fair enough
We dont understand anything you say :)
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You guys sit there behind your desk's belittling someone who is from another country, like he has all the answers for your questions, then he responds politely and you return the favor with witty little comebacks.
Pathetic you truely all are, hope it makes you guys feel real good.
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Pathetic you truely all are, hope it makes you guys feel real good.
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Am I the only one here thats getting the distinct feeling that a great human tragedy has just occurred?
:rofl
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He doesn't really know Bor's past posting history, does he?
lolz
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Originally posted by Yeager
Pathetic you truely all are, hope it makes you guys feel real good.
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Am I the only one here thats getting the distinct feeling that a great human tragedy has just occurred?
:rofl
No not a great human tragedy, just ignorance on your part.
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Originally posted by Boroda
They have two Russian engineers aboard! ;)
-2 and problem solved.:D
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Originally posted by Boroda
Did they fix it already?
I am just sitting here getting drunk...
About Americans to blame: imagine yourself working in a space-suit, standard pressure - 7km, special pressure (so you can bend your hands) is 12km, go try doing something under such conditions.
Guys were probably too exausted and noone to tell them to "ground themselves". **** happens.
As I said before: no use blaming each other, they have to deal with the problem, and I am sure they'll fix it. They have two Russian engineers aboard! ;)
This guy one of 'em? :aok
(http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1998_Armageddon/998AMG_Peter_Stormare_001.jpg)
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Don't you folks know that Yeager and Boroda are a ventriliquist/dummy act?
I just don't know which is which.
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Originally posted by 68ZooM
You guys sit there behind your desk's belittling someone who is from another country, like he has all the answers for your questions, then he responds politely and you return the favor with witty little comebacks.
Pathetic you truely all are, hope it makes you guys feel real good.
n00b-e to the boards/Boroda.
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just ignorance on your part.
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Well that sure beats a great human tragedy :)
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Please don't stop me from making fun about American Patriots.
They are sooo jealous about some Asian barbarians who are doing better then they. "Roommate" - an American word. And we are better in long-time space exploration.
Simply leave them to be proud of their Star - Sprangled banner, especially when they have no other reasons to be proud of.
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Originally posted by Boroda
My Mother lives in Queensland, Australia, and wears slippers.
Well whadayaknow...mine too! :)
Clearly, there is some strange slipper wearing mother attractant type force at work here.
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Simply leave them to be proud of their Star - Sprangled banner, especially when they have no other reasons to be proud of.
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Man thats harsh. I am feeling about as dejected as I ever have right this very moment :cry
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Originally posted by Boroda
Asian barbarians
thats the first true thing boroda (bagdad bob) has said.
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Originally posted by john9001
thats the first true thing boroda (bagdad bob) has said.
Yes! "Asian hordes of Jewish Bolsheviks", that's who we really are, dr. Goebbels couldn't be mistaken!
I have to insert matches into my narrow Asian eyes so I can read this forum.
It's scary: some people really understand our real nature, Putin could fool only Western leaders, while ordinary people still have the wisdom! Forrestall was damn right when he jumped out of the window screaming "Russians are coming!"....
Now I'll wait for KGB knocking at my door to get me for revealing all our vital secrets here! :D
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Well whadayaknow...mine too! :)
Clearly, there is some strange slipper wearing mother attractant type force at work here.
Its Queensland...strange people are the norm!
Maybe just uninstall the Russian language version of Vista to fix the problem?
Tronsky