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Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Bubbajj on June 16, 2007, 08:03:00 PM
I suspect my logitec is taking a dump. I was wondering if the cost of the X52pro over the plain X52 is worth it. I can't seem to hit Poop any more and my K/D went from 1.6 to .7. Anyone want to recomend a particular setup other than the Saitek?
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: DustyR on June 16, 2007, 08:50:22 PM
I'ave a X52 that I bought refirbished from Saitek @ saitek.com.  I have not had any problems with this unit.  I believe for the buck that it is a good investment.:aok :noid
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: airspro on June 16, 2007, 09:32:10 PM
go all CH gear if you like flight simming . Last years of use .

Good place to get them .

http://www.provantage.com/ch~110CHPU.htm
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Damionte on June 17, 2007, 05:51:40 AM
Definately pro. Many of the non pro sticks are defective. you won't know what you're getting so why take the chance of having to hassle with what's probably a busted product. Go with the pro, on the pro they've fixed most of the manufacturing mistakes they made with the standard stick.
Title: Re: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Wayout on June 17, 2007, 06:19:47 AM
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Originally posted by Bubbajj
I suspect my logitec is taking a dump. I was wondering if the cost of the X52pro over the plain X52 is worth it. I can't seem to hit Poop any more and my K/D went from 1.6 to .7. Anyone want to recomend a particular setup other than the Saitek?


I have the X52 Pro and I'm real happy with it.  I'm a long time CH user and when it came time to upgrade I went with the X52 and find the quality is on par with CH at about half the price. The only problem, and it's not much of a problem, I can't figure out what the 'clutch' button is for.
Title: Re: Re: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Max on June 17, 2007, 07:32:59 AM
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Originally posted by Wayout
The only problem, and it's not much of a problem, I can't figure out what the 'clutch' button is for.


Clutch shifts MODES when using SST software.
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Max on June 17, 2007, 07:33:40 AM
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Originally posted by airspro
go all CH gear if you like flight simming . Last years of use .

Good place to get them .

http://www.provantage.com/ch~110CHPU.htm



What he ^ said!
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: TUXC on June 17, 2007, 09:09:40 AM
Wow, that is a good place to get them.

Quck question about the CH sticks:
What's the difference between the Fighterstick and Combatstick besides price and the number of hat switches? Any difference in the size of the stick or the components used?
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Spikes on June 17, 2007, 09:32:33 AM
I have an X52...I don't think they are that much difference...
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Max on June 17, 2007, 10:17:58 AM
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Originally posted by TUXC
Wow, that is a good place to get them.

Quck question about the CH sticks:
What's the difference between the Fighterstick and Combatstick besides price and the number of hat switches? Any difference in the size of the stick or the components used?


Size is the same...just extra bells and whistles on the Fighterstick. Just got a FS a few weeks back and am lovin it!!
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: airspro on June 17, 2007, 12:21:48 PM
I like my combat stick because I wanted only one button for my cannon thumb button . If that don't matter to you get the FStick IMO .
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: clerick on June 17, 2007, 01:48:54 PM
I have an X52 and so far no issues.  I bought it for $120 with a two year replacement warrenty.  I hope i never need it but IF i do i'll be glad to have it.  From what i understand the only major difference in the 52pro is the metal construction, should be more durable but i havent noticed any issues with the plastic.
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Ghosth on June 18, 2007, 05:56:38 AM
Its my understanding that the X52 Pro has Hall sensors. Uses magnetic sensors basicly to see movement on a rotary or linear shaft with no actual contact.

Hence, no pots to spike, not likely to wear out this decade.
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: T99LMG on June 20, 2007, 02:01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Max
Size is the same...just extra bells and whistles on the Fighterstick. Just got a FS a few weeks back and am lovin it!!


Not da post, but you took my avatar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks. I can make a better one if you want. Not trying to hijack!
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: MstWntd on June 20, 2007, 02:11:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ghosth

Hence, no pots to spike, not likely to wear out this decade.


:)
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: THOR01 on June 20, 2007, 04:08:34 PM
Got  a refurb X52 from Saitek. $69.00 is hard to beat considering a pro is 190-200. I think it has a 30 day warr. Wouldn't screw with Ebay, they were more expensive there.
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Krusty on June 20, 2007, 04:54:18 PM
Are you sure the PRO has hall sensors? From what I heard, they're far far more expensive... The price on the PRO isn't too much more than the "normal" -- I'd imagine the price makes up for the metal components, rather than the hall sensors.

If it does have them, then they're a step ahead of EVERYbody else out there, and kudos to them! (and I might have to save up to get a X52 Pro then)
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: 2bighorn on June 20, 2007, 05:48:42 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Are you sure the PRO has hall sensors? From what I heard, they're far far more expensive... The price on the PRO isn't too much more than the "normal" -- I'd imagine the price makes up for the metal components, rather than the hall sensors.

If it does have them, then they're a step ahead of EVERYbody else out there, and kudos to them! (and I might have to save up to get a X52 Pro then)
Both, X-52 and X-52 Pro have sensors on X and Y axis and regular pot on Z (twisty).

I was rather disappointed with Pro, especially with how the second spring is implemented. There's noticeable transition at about half the throw which is  a pain in the rear for all those who pulled in outer deadzone sliders to about half  (as I did).

Even with all the added "metal" bling, it feels same cheap as regular x-52, because the Pro stick and throttle weigh less.

The only positive is removal of hardware center deadzone for X and Y which makes stick very precise in the center. Probably great for cherry pickers.

Pro is not worth the extra $75 unless your style is pimped up stuff...
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Krusty on June 20, 2007, 11:52:33 PM
Hrm.... I shall save my $$ for bills then...
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: DustyR on June 21, 2007, 06:57:26 AM
I saw the X52 stick not the 'PRO' but the regular 52 in "Best Buy" & Comp USA" in Pittsburgh PA within the last 2 weeks.:cool: :noid
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Max on June 21, 2007, 07:24:44 AM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Hrm.... I shall save my $$ for bills then...


Save your $$ for a CH Fighterstick. It's far & above more precise and smoother than an X52. I have no issues with the X52 throttle or peds, in fact I married the CH stick into the set-up and I'm now happy as a clam  :D

Provantage.com sells the CH Fighterstick for $86
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Krusty on June 21, 2007, 08:56:20 AM
I just can't force myself to spend that much moola on something that has minimal buttons and ***no throttle***. :cry


CH quality may be top notch, but their design, ergonomics, and layouts are crap
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Max on June 21, 2007, 04:03:35 PM
The CH Fighterstick and Combatstick both have a throttle wheel on the base. The Fighterstick has an 8-way view hat, 3 4-way hat buttons and 4 buttons on the handle, along with a pitch and aileron trim wheel. Sheesh, how many inputs do ya need? :D
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: airspro on June 22, 2007, 04:38:41 PM
Don't bother Max . If he wanted one he would have gotten it already .

It's good , just not for everyone IMO . Some don't just like good , they want and need different  :P
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: DustyR on June 22, 2007, 05:04:35 PM
The stick may not be for everybody, but it gives you a clear choice, spend $75 @ Siatek for a refurbished 'flight control system'.  Shop around and possibly fine a new one at one of the mass merchandisers.  Continue to spend $20 to $40 for a inexpensive one & replace it every 3 to 6 months.  Or bite the bullet & shake the moths out of your wallet or wipe off the Visa card etc. & make your choice....
Myself I usually recommend a Saitek EVO or equiv. for a new player, this gives them a chance to decide.:aok :noid
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Bubbajj on June 23, 2007, 01:08:10 AM
well, I went for the X52. They had refurbed ones on the site for 69 bucks. I figure if I want to upgrade later this stick can move to my second computer. Thanks for the input fellas.
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Domin on June 26, 2007, 03:01:26 AM
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Originally posted by 2bighorn

Pro is not worth the extra $75 unless your style is pimped up stuff...


Yea, and that's the way Bighorn rolls ...
Title: X52 or X52PRO????
Post by: Bubbajj on June 29, 2007, 06:54:26 PM
Got it up and running last night and all I can say is WOW! What a difference. I was racking up kills in a P40 like nobody's business. Much smoother roll in and the nose wasn't all froggy. I was hitting high deflection and passing snap shots cause the nose was staying where I pointed it. And the potato launching 109s seemed a bit easier to kill with too. It seems that it has a lot more adaptability in the location of the controls with all the buttons. Now I can go to wep, lower/raise flaps, control engine speed, and control views much easier and without taking my hands off the stick to screw with the keyboard. I'm still gettting use to it and trying to decide what button will do what but I am super pleased with the way it's working out.