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Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Larry on June 17, 2007, 03:14:51 AM
I don't know if this should be in the hardware forum or here.

I just started playing AH again about three months ago. Before I lived in the city and played AH on cable and DSL, but now that I moved out to the sticks I can only get dialup. Up untill about a week ago I had problems with discoing. It would happen every three or so hours and my connection to the internet would be cut. A few people told me it might be spyware or adware, so last week I bought a spyware remover and downloaded three more just incase the one I bought didnt find them all. Iv ran all of them a few times and have since removed all of the spy/adware from my coumper. I have an old version of Norton and one more antivirus scanner that I run every week but they dont find anything.

I have pingplotter and have ran it to see if I could find a problem there, but I havent. Thing is before last week I could play for hours before I got discod, but now I can only play for about five minutes before I lose UDP. Only thing now is I dont disco I can keep playing but everything is all warpy. Anyone have any idea what it could be?
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Xasthur on June 17, 2007, 03:38:55 AM
Periodic disconnection could be at your ISP's fault.

A lot of of ISPs who do not enforce a download limit have an x-hour time limit in order to stop users from AFK downloading gigs and gigs of information.

As for the other issues, I'm not sure mate. Sorry.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: NHawk on June 17, 2007, 07:05:08 AM
It's been so long since I used dial-up that I can't remember exactly where it is, but there is a setting in the dialer that automatically disconnects you. I do know it's in preferences for the dialer and you might need to set that to "Never disconnect".
Title: Symantec?
Post by: TalonX on June 17, 2007, 07:24:47 AM
I had symantec virus protection...it ran a "redir" function that killed my UDP everytime.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Max on June 17, 2007, 07:37:57 AM
I had similar  "lost UDP" issues yesterday (6/16)  The disco came after 4-6 minutes of play. Happened about 10x before I gave up.

I never run spyware stuff when connected to AH and I'm religious about running Ad-aware + Spybot weekly.

Ping plots showed multiple PL's almost all the way down the line, though they were very sporadic. ATT was pinging the most PL

Sure is maddening.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Blooz on June 17, 2007, 07:46:41 AM
I can't believe you can't get a DSL hookup. All you need is a phone line.

Even in the boonies you should be able to get DSL.

Your telephone company should have a DSL plan. Unless you're on a satellite hookup or something of course.

It's not cable but it has similar connection speed and data volume.

It's a much better way to go than normal phone dialup but you already know that.

I wouldn't go back to dialup, never, ever in a million years!
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: bj229r on June 17, 2007, 08:07:35 AM
I live in the boonies and I got NUTHIN--they ran cable to within a mile of my house and STOPPED (from 2 directions, no less) Cox refuses to put their cable on a pole that doesn't have power AND phone, and that last mile is set up that way, and not likely to change any time soon. Although we are within 3 miles of one of those cute little buildings, Verizon says dsl isn't in the offing any time soon EITHER, so I've been on dialup since aol-hell in 1995--game is playable as long as it smooth (I'm usually about 200ms)..I lose udp about every time online, hold breath, and then the world comes back....eh, it's tolerable
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Larry on June 17, 2007, 08:30:19 AM
Im not getting booted every few hours now. I just loose UDP within five minutes of logging in.

Only thing I can get out here is dialup or satellite. I get between 200-250 ping. The game runs great right up untill everyone disappears then starts doing mini warps. Iv tryed staying on to see if it clears up but even 15-20mins later it still is jumpy.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Hungry on June 17, 2007, 08:33:09 AM
After your sure theres no more adware spyware and youve checked the ISP disconnect part, when I had dialup there were several programs MaxMTu  i think is one that helped speed up and smooth out my dialup you might look into it and make sure your max packet transmission and I forget the other setting is correct.  The only other thing that I can think of off the top of my head is your modem, make sure its a good one.  I know you mentioned that this started only recently but thats what I would start with.  

Good Luck
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: ColKLink on June 17, 2007, 09:05:55 AM
Blooz, their really are spots in the united states that neither dsl, nor cable is avalible,...only option in these remote places is to get the sattlelite connection, for the one time phenominal fee of 500.00 or so. I lived in a remote tiny town  and the choices were, dial-up, or sattlelite. I dialed.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Spikes on June 17, 2007, 09:26:24 AM
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Originally posted by bj229r
I live in the boonies and I got NUTHIN--they ran cable to within a mile of my house and STOPPED (from 2 directions, no less)



me too...time warner stopped right down the road...1/4 mile...and we have 4 people willing to pay for it...but that think it will cost too much $$$...
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: doc1kelley on June 17, 2007, 09:35:29 AM
Another thing to check is under system/hardware/device manager/modems/properties/power management/ make sure you have the let computer power down the device unchecked.  This also applies for your NIC if you are running cable or DSL.  

DSL is only widespread available in areas that are running fiber optic cables instead of copper phone lines.  If you are in an area that has copper phone lines, you have to be so much distance from the junction or you can't get it.  I ran into this years ago when DSL was available up to two houses down from my house.  But that was when cable modems weren't available over by the airport in Indianapolis and DSL had a max download rate of 128K.

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: bj229r on June 17, 2007, 09:51:09 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
Im not getting booted every few hours now. I just loose UDP within five minutes of logging in.

Only thing I can get out here is dialup or satellite. I get between 200-250 ping. The game runs great right up untill everyone disappears then starts doing mini warps. Iv tryed staying on to see if it clears up but even 15-20mins later it still is jumpy.


Satellite isnt an option for playing this game---upwards of 800ms variance--trying to remember the name of the guy who warps like a mofo, while bragging about his satellite conn. I might get satellite, and keep 2nd dialup line for AH...the Shrew prolly would balk though:cry
Title: Re: Lost UDP
Post by: Sweet2th on June 17, 2007, 10:24:13 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
I don't know if this should be in the hardware forum or here.

I just started playing AH again about three months ago. Before I lived in the city and played AH on cable and DSL, but now that I moved out to the sticks I can only get dialup. Up untill about a week ago I had problems with discoing. It would happen every three or so hours and my connection to the internet would be cut. A few people told me it might be spyware or adware, so last week I bought a spyware remover and downloaded three more just incase the one I bought didnt find them all. Iv ran all of them a few times and have since removed all of the spy/adware from my coumper. I have an old version of Norton and one more antivirus scanner that I run every week but they dont find anything.

I have pingplotter and have ran it to see if I could find a problem there, but I havent. Thing is before last week I could play for hours before I got discod, but now I can only play for about five minutes before I lose UDP. Only thing now is I dont disco I can keep playing but everything is all warpy. Anyone have any idea what it could be?


Alot of people are saying the same thing TK.I think it's the Servers, it was really bad in the AvA all week.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: thndregg on June 17, 2007, 12:32:02 PM
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Originally posted by Blooz
I can't believe you can't get a DSL hookup. All you need is a phone line.

Even in the boonies you should be able to get DSL.

Your telephone company should have a DSL plan. Unless you're on a satellite hookup or something of course.

It's not cable but it has similar connection speed and data volume.

It's a much better way to go than normal phone dialup but you already know that.

I wouldn't go back to dialup, never, ever in a million years!


I can believe it. Out here in the extreme eastern edge of Oregon, 4 miles from one town, 8 miles from the other, and 6 miles from Idaho. and WE don't have DSL at Owyhee Junction. (The pink blotch on the map.)

http://www.malheurbell.net/images/nyssa.gif

They've been saying "available soon" for over the past year.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Blooz on June 17, 2007, 01:15:23 PM
Yeah but TK is just outside Houston.

It's not like he's living in the middle of the Sahara Desert.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Larry on June 17, 2007, 09:10:34 PM
Yep just west of houston and about 10miles away from a town that has DSL.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: LTARstud on June 18, 2007, 02:37:37 PM
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Originally posted by bj229r
Satellite isnt an option for playing this game---upwards of 800ms variance--trying to remember the name of the guy who warps like a mofo, while bragging about his satellite conn. I might get satellite, and keep 2nd dialup line for AH...the Shrew prolly would balk though:cry



Sorry but I have used Sateliite for two years now and Aces High plays just fine.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: whiteman on June 18, 2007, 02:58:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Larry
Yep just west of houston and about 10miles away from a town that has DSL.


i'm in NW Sugar Land using DSL and have this problem as of late. 4 or 5 this week, think some of it might have been the storms coming through.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: DiabloTX on June 18, 2007, 03:05:12 PM
I'm on Comcast in south Houston and I have to reboot my modem and router when I have this problem.  Flying lastnight in the TA was a pain in the prettythang.  Good thing is I don't have to do this but once every couple of weeks or so.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Xargos on June 18, 2007, 03:24:23 PM
How old is the phone line running to the house?  If water has gotten into the box, the connectors could be corroded.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Larry on June 19, 2007, 12:06:42 AM
Xargos, phone line is just over a year old, but I think I found the problem. It was the modem I swaped it out and everything is working fine for now.
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: doc1kelley on June 19, 2007, 09:28:06 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
Xargos, phone line is just over a year old, but I think I found the problem. It was the modem I swaped it out and everything is working fine for now.


It must have been a winmodem.  One thing about dialup modems is that you need to seek out a modem that is hardware and not software oriented as a software flavor uses your cpu to do all the work and that will cause bunches of trouble on a system that is less than tweaked.

All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1

ps... Best hardware modems are old US robotics
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Larry on June 19, 2007, 09:29:15 AM
Dont know what kind it was. It came wiht my old computer that I bought about 10years ago.:aok
Title: Lost UDP
Post by: Traveler on June 19, 2007, 10:12:21 AM
I'd look to the connections in the house and from the house to the pole.  Also do you have any wireless phone on the line.  Old phone line in the house that do not dead end are also a problem.  All can cause noise on the line and cause lost data packets.  

There are a lot of AH players that use dial up connections and have few problems.    I live on the Jersey Shore in an old sea shore town, phone line problems are part of the life here.  over the years I've completly rewired my home.  That resolved poor line problems.