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Title: Graphics
Post by: Movie on June 18, 2007, 07:11:43 PM
Check this video out and tell me why can't HTC put these wonderful graphics and add-ons to the airplanes.... such as when doing carrier landings there's an "air traffic controller", steam coming out of the carriers and supporting ships, landings lights, real looking sky and water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86pdItSJOnM
Title: Graphics
Post by: Hornet33 on June 18, 2007, 07:31:40 PM
Can you say "Frame Rate Killer"

Eye candy is nice, but unless you have a top end machine it wont do you any good when your in a furball. There has to be a balance between playability and eye candy. I think HTC is doing the best they can right now maintaining that balance.

All those other game with the super graphics don't have upwards of 400 people logged on in a MMP arena.
Title: Graphics
Post by: detch01 on June 18, 2007, 07:31:58 PM
frame rates.




asw
Title: Graphics
Post by: Movie on June 18, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
damn ok how about the "ATC"
Title: Graphics
Post by: TheCage on June 18, 2007, 08:31:42 PM
How about water that looks like this.................

(http://wikipedia.ketsujin.com/images/7/79/FA_Screenshot_61.jpg)

This is not a frame rate killer on line and is not a box game either.
Title: Graphics
Post by: DiabloTX on June 18, 2007, 09:54:57 PM
Water looks great!


Battleship's skin looks like prettythang.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Bruv119 on June 19, 2007, 09:04:31 AM
That pic is from Fighter Ace.

A game that after having 4 years of water looking like that still haven't incorporated ship usage in their equivalent of the MA.  You can't man the guns on the ships and you can't change the pre-programmed waypoints.

The water is the only thing that looks better than in the current version of AH.

The buggers also banned me from their forum for 6 months because I put a guy straight who was flaming AH after trying it for a couple of days.  I wasn't promoting nothing just stating FACTS!!!

Sooner the game dies and the rest of my beloved squad come here with me the better....


Bruv119  aka   1.  FM   _Bruv_  50*
~S~
Title: Graphics
Post by: wooly15 on June 19, 2007, 09:44:50 AM
Pacific Fighters has really nice eye candy and is and older game in today's standard.  It doesn't take much of a machine to run it.  I ran it with setting cranked on a low end PC with very little problems.  If you are having frame rate problems just turn down the settings.  I am not dissatisfied with AH, but it would be nice to have a more realistic terrain.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Xasthur on June 19, 2007, 10:45:42 AM
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Originally posted by Movie
damn ok how about the "ATC"


Who would do this?

More importantly, who would pay any attention?

With friendly collisions off, ATC has no relevance.

When you can all land at once, it doesn't matter how orderly it is.
Title: Re: Graphics
Post by: Hap on June 19, 2007, 11:01:00 AM
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Originally posted by Movie
Check this video out and tell me why can't HTC put these wonderful graphics and add-ons to the airplanes.... such as when doing carrier landings there's an "air traffic controller", steam coming out of the carriers and supporting ships, landings lights, real looking sky and water

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86pdItSJOnM


Wow.  That is nice, isn't it?
Title: Graphics
Post by: Krusty on June 19, 2007, 11:21:01 AM
On a rig with 2x Ge8800 GTX in SLI, any game looks nice (as with the original link).

I was taking some screenshots once of some of my skins, so I went into my vid card settings. Maxed FSAA, quality set to max, enabled EVERYTHING the card could do... Pretty much if it sounded nice, I turned it up.

Went into the game and upped the plane I needed to get screenshots of, and wow! I was surprised. The only way of describing it was "Everything Just Looked Better"! I actually thought to myself "This isn't the AH I know..."

Noticably better looking terrain, everything.

Only problem is the FPS in the gutter. It let me get my screenshots, but I couldn't fly like that.

So if you want AH to look better invest the money in a killer rig and just enable the frak out of your video settings. The guy in the above video had 2 of the most POWERFUL video cards in the world today, working in SLI. Pshaw! Of COURSE he's going to make it look nice.

Anyways, while I agree that AH could use some primping and preening in the graphics department, I hope they don't take anything from any of UbiSoft's IL2 incarnations as inspiration. I hope they come up with their own, because for the most part this game has a lot better production values than "some others".
Title: Graphics
Post by: Movie on June 19, 2007, 02:56:29 PM
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Originally posted by Xasthur
Who would do this?

More importantly, who would pay any attention?

With friendly collisions off, ATC has no relevance.

When you can all land at once, it doesn't matter how orderly it is.


this is wat makes this so unrealistic but thats true too with these children I think noone is going to pay attention
Title: Graphics
Post by: NateWolf on June 19, 2007, 03:13:21 PM
I don't get it. I have settings maximized and I get a consistent 60-75 FPS. I am not running some top end machine either. Cost me 600 bucks. I have a 1.6 gHz processor, a gig of RAM, and a nVidia GeForce 6600. A lower-mid end machine by todays standard. I don't know what everyone else is running, but smoke and landing lights won't kill FPS, although the water could do it.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Bruv119 on June 19, 2007, 03:30:16 PM
Also I forgot to mention that the above screenie has a game size of 500+mb download  and has been since January 2002.

AH does all that and more for under 100mb  (sound packs/hi res obviously push it over that)
Title: Graphics
Post by: Speed55 on June 19, 2007, 04:52:59 PM
The water does look really nice..  i bet htc is remodeling the water now, since they turned off animated water after the last update.

Well, i won't bet, but how about a theory?
Title: Graphics
Post by: Movie on June 19, 2007, 07:14:27 PM
this game would be bad bellybutton if they had the following things,  detailed cockpits and terrain and/if they can include the atc
Title: Graphics
Post by: TheCage on June 19, 2007, 08:13:54 PM
LOL Bruv, I only posted that picture to show what water should look like, not like the swampy water we have now.  :)  Even the old water of AH1 looked better then what we have now.   The animated water when came out looked great from altitude, but lost it when you got up close and smacked into it.  :(   If the current water had more color depth it would be great, just the swampy look just doesn't cut it very well IMHO.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Meatwad on June 19, 2007, 08:49:42 PM
That was a BB? Looked like an old rusted tanker to me
Title: Graphics
Post by: DiabloTX on June 19, 2007, 09:16:59 PM
Yeah, looked like a South Dakota-class BB looking like a rust bucket.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Movie on June 20, 2007, 01:23:59 PM
wat was AH1 about? World War 1 dogfighting?
Title: Graphics
Post by: Meatwad on June 20, 2007, 07:55:11 PM
AH1 was Korean based :D
Title: Graphics
Post by: Xasthur on June 20, 2007, 11:28:10 PM
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Originally posted by Movie
this is wat makes this so unrealistic but thats true too with these children I think noone is going to pay attention


I'm not sure if this game would work so well if friendly collisions were activated.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Krusty on June 20, 2007, 11:54:45 PM
Friendly collisions are fine in OFFLINE play, where you get ONE life... You can simulate everything from the historical aspect and that includes taxiing.

Online play requires the constant ability of anybody to take off at any time. Unless you do retarded air spawns (and even then there's a chance you'll spawn into some random guy!) you can't have friendly collisions on.

It's just part of online play. I don't think WB or AW had friendly collisions either and nobody was griping about it (much) then, either.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Larry on June 21, 2007, 12:40:54 AM
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Originally posted by Movie
wat was AH1 about? World War 1 dogfighting?


This kid is funny.:lol


You cant have uber eye candy with 400+ people in the same arena. Unless you want to buy everyone that plays AH a $5K+ system.
Title: Graphics
Post by: DiabloTX on June 21, 2007, 01:42:45 AM
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Originally posted by Meatwad
AH1 was Korean based :D


Yes, but at least it had the B-29.
Title: Graphics
Post by: Larry on June 21, 2007, 01:55:39 AM
When AH3 aka ToD/CT comes out next year we are going to get modern jets. I cant wait to fly my F16, F117, A-10, and AH-1 cobra. I just hope the SAMs arent over modeled.

Anyone know if the M1A2 will be in it when its released or will we have to wait a few patches?
Title: Graphics
Post by: Hazard69 on June 21, 2007, 10:29:01 AM
Nah! The first tanks gonna be the T-72MBT. Thats to make up for the lack of any heavy ruski tanks in AH2!....lol

I hope they gimme my F14/F18......:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Graphics
Post by: Larry on June 21, 2007, 10:55:39 AM
My falcon will pwn your tomcat and hornet!


Challenger 2 & Leopard 2 vs T-72 its going to be fun. I cant wait till it comes out.:aok