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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Movie on June 19, 2007, 07:17:38 PM
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why do I feel invincible when flying F6F? I feel it has more firepower than a Corsair or any plane like that even tho they have the same 6 50 cal
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Big. Armor. Speed. Big wings. Small cockpit. Pretty gunsight holder. Decent turn.
Or, maybe yer just in love with it.
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it's my new favorite, been taking it up any flight i know i have to climb to atleast 10k
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F6F is far from invincible. Good plane yes, invincible no. Slow, turning can be beat by corsairs (among others), poor climb, same guns, six 50 cal, as other american planes.
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Originally posted by trotter
F6F is far from invincible. Good plane yes, invincible no. Slow, turning can be beat by corsairs (among others), poor climb, same guns, six 50 cal, as other american planes.
He said "FEEL" invincible....
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if its bad why did it have success against the zeros excluding the fact they have poor armor
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Originally posted by Movie
if its bad why did it have success against the zeros excluding the fact they have poor armor
Nobody in this thread said the F6F is bad...
And concerning your question:
- better armor
- team tactics
- better average pilot skill (remember the Hellcat was introduced in 1943)
- much higher speed. Don't playing by the better turning Zero's rules. BnZ instead of TnB whenever possible
- better dive performance
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10x ammo...h2h...
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Don't forget F6F's in air combat usually outnumbered the enemy.
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I've reached a state secureness in this plane that i'm not worried about cons having any ALT or E advantage. Even the KI-84 and Nikki that gives me fits in other rides is no big deal. Always been my favorite Navy bird and glad I've been able to really learn ths one.
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It's not the plane. It's you. You've reached a stage in your development where you're now a good pilot.
It'll pass and disappear for the longest, most frustrating time. Then, one day you'll realize it's come back. You'll think you're pretty good. And, then, it goes away again.
HONK!
Gooss
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I love the F6F, It just seems a little slower than it should be(I'm no expert or do I have any technical knowledge whatsoever). It turns very well at high speeds and can take a beating. I flew a full sector back to base missing half a wing on each side flying with just a rudder and landed it on the runway. I don't think many planes in the game can pull that of. It Is a big fat target though so you gotta keep it fast(I should follow my own advice there). Some days I feel like I can beat anybody in the game with that bird(highly delusional there) Until I meet someone better that just destroys me(usually the first con that comes along). My favorite ride by far
(if any good F6F pilots wanna help me at any time feel free)
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my SBD can PWN yer stinkin F6F hellcat!
gonna regret postin' this soon, but hey I'll have no lack of duel challenges! WAHOO!! love that DA most fun arena AH has im my opinion, keep challenging me to duels folks I cant get enough of it!!!!! (sorry ADHD moment, meds wearing off lol)
Spaztastically yours,
~Balance1
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Originally posted by balance1
my SBD can PWN yer stinkin F6F hellcat!
you'll get blown out of the sky b4 u can launch ur att
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the F6F in this game isnt realistic
F6F-5s in real life had a choice of 6x .50cals OR 4x .50cals and 2x 20mm cannons
look it up
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Originally posted by Pannono
the F6F in this game isnt realistic
F6F-5s in real life had a choice of 6x .50cals OR 4x .50cals and 2x 20mm cannons
look it up
If you had looked it up by yourself, you could have found this information:
"Another improvement in the F6F-5 was the availability of more potent armament than the standard six .50 caliber (12.7 mm) machine guns. Trials with cannon-armed Hellcats were not followed up by a production version, although the armament mix of a pair of Hispano 20 mm (0.79 in.) cannon carrying a minimum effective load of 220 rounds each, along with two pairs of .50 caliber (12.7 mm) machine guns; each armed with 400 rounds was later used on many F6F-5N night fighters. All production F6F-5s had the ability to be fitted with the different armament configurations, but only F6F-5N night-fighters, equipped with radar, ever used the latter gun fit."
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in my game it has 2x 20mms and 4x .50cals as the F6F-5
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Originally posted by Pannono
in my game it has 2x 20mms and 4x .50cals as the F6F-5
You werent talking about "your game". You said "real life".
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ROFL
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check wikipedia, it says 6x .50cals or 4x .50cals and 2x 20mm cannons
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Originally posted by Pannono
check wikipedia, it says 6x .50cals or 4x .50cals and 2x 20mm cannons
Read it again. Carefully.
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Originally posted by Pannono
check wikipedia, it says 6x .50cals or 4x .50cals and 2x 20mm cannons
IIRC, other than the F6F-5N and the F6F-5P (photo recce version), regular front line F6F-5s had the standard .50 cals. Though some units probably did do some field test with the 20mm gun package.
FYI- Just because the design specs said a plane could carry such and such guns, doesn't mean they were produced that way. An example is the P-38D, which shows on the plane specs having a 30mm cannon when in fact it was never produced with said 30mm cannon.
ack-ack
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Specifications (F6F-5 Hellcat)
Armament
Guns:
6× 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns, 400 rounds/gun, OR
2× 20 mm cannon, 225 rounds/gun
4× 0.50 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns 400 rounds/gun
what can u say now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F6F_Hellcat
read it urself
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Cut and paste from the wiki....
Trials with cannon-armed Hellcats were not followed up by a production version,
and later...
All production F6F-5s had the ability to be fitted with the different armament configurations, but only F6F-5N night-fighters, equipped with radar, ever used the latter gun fit
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Originally posted by Pannono
Specifications (F6F-5 Hellcat)
Armament
Guns:
6× 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns, 400 rounds/gun, OR
2× 20 mm cannon, 225 rounds/gun
4× 0.50 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns 400 rounds/gun
what can u say now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F6F_Hellcat
read it urself
Since you're obviously slow, I'm posting this part of a previous reply I made.
FYI- Just because the design specs said a plane could carry such and such guns, doesn't mean they were produced that way. An example is the P-38D, which shows on the plane specs having a 30mm cannon when in fact it was never produced with said 30mm cannon.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Pannono
Specifications (F6F-5 Hellcat)
Armament
Guns:
6× 0.50 in (12.7 mm) M2 Browning machine guns, 400 rounds/gun, OR
2× 20 mm cannon, 225 rounds/gun
4× 0.50 in (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns 400 rounds/gun
what can u say now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F6F_Hellcat
read it urself
:rofl :rofl :rofl
You should work on your reading comprehension because that article also says:
Trials with cannon-armed Hellcats were not followed up by a production version
Actually my posting a few days ago (see above) quoted that very wiki article....
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I NEVER fear a f6f in a ki84, unless I'm up higher.
However, the f6f shines with armor...and is irritating to kill. It just can't seem to turn with my vs a ki.
now when I was in love with the f6f, it's because I was sick of my controls needing babysitting and possibly ripping off plane parts when diving to help fellow knights.
I also notice that the ammo doesn't seem to 'drop' as much during deflection shots vs a p51 or 47 etc...dunno why...as I have my conv set the same on all planes....400m.
It's a sweet plane, but it has weaknesses. Keep it fast I say, and always have the E advantage and you'll have tons of ammo and fuel to spend in the air causing pain!
Oh, and it can carry some nice ord too. :)
What else can you ask for? I guess a faster plane? :)
BTW - the ki84 and f6f stats wise, clearly shows that the only reason why they are patched in cost (15) is because the f6f has alot more ammo...but with this game nerfing 50cal, this plane SHOULD BE a 20 not a 15..
S
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Originally posted by trotter
F6F is far from invincible. Good plane yes, invincible no. Slow, turning can be beat by corsairs (among others), poor climb, same guns, six 50 cal, as other american planes.
According to DoKGonZo http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=f6f5&p2=f4u1&p3=f4u1d&p4=f4u1c the F6F turns better than a F4U (no flaps) and only slightly worse with flaps, and it climbs better than an F4U up to 20K. IMHO it also has better stall characteristics, making it easier to fly.
It's also a great JABO platform...
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Standard armament on the F6F consisted of six .50 caliber (12.7 mm) Browning machine guns with 400 rounds each;
Trials with cannon-armed Hellcats were not followed up by a production version,
Learn to comprehend what you are reading.
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Originally posted by Sincraft
but with this game nerfing 50cal, this plane SHOULD BE a 20 not a 15..
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Where is the proof that the .50 cals are nerfed? 9 out of 10 times those that claim the .50 cal is nerfed are the ones that aren't hitting at the convergence point. The other 1 is the guy that can't hit the side of a mountain.
ack-ack
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< has no problems killing A/C w/ an f6f
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Originally posted by Scca
According to DoKGonZo http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=f6f5&p2=f4u1&p3=f4u1d&p4=f4u1c the F6F turns better than a F4U (no flaps) and only slightly worse with flaps, and it climbs better than an F4U up to 20K. IMHO it also has better stall characteristics, making it easier to fly.
Pretty sure WW's latest testing results (probably almost a year old now, but newer than the info I think is on gonzoville) indicated the flap turning radius of the F6F was now essentially equal to the F4U. Difference under the range of error.
I fly both the F4U and F6F pretty regularly, the F6F does turn essentially identically to the F4U. Seems to hold on to speed more though, you can get the hog slower a lot faster (without popping gear) which tends to make the hog better in a knife fight. At very slow speeds the F6F is a fair amount easier to handle and keep out of trouble but it also doesn't have the huge rudder to ride stalls in the vertical.
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Hey I'll tell you, I shot 3 of these bastages down today, and it took ALOT of ammo to do so , so there's another reason why they are so E.
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
........The other 1 is the guy that can't hit the side of a mountain.
ack-ack
That would be me, dagnab it............:mad:
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Talking about F6F - I admit, I actually enjoy flying that thing quite a bit
- Good guns (6. 50s = 2400 rounds total)
-Tough plane
-Cockpit view is good
just to name a few
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Anyone who uses Wikipedia as an authoritative source for anything is borderline retarded.
I feel bad for English Lit teachers.
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LMFAO!!:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl