Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Fencer51 on June 20, 2007, 06:28:09 PM
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Found a single picture I could go off of, in the most interesting place. Still need some dirt and a few more wear and tears, but its about 98% done.
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/G14_JG11_1.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/G14_JG11_2.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/G14_JG11_3.jpg)
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vey good it looks good Id use it
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Red gear struts signified C3 fuel, which would seem to indicate the performance was close to that of our K-4 (maybe).
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Can I offer 1 gripe?
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Originally posted by Krusty
Can I offer 1 gripe?
Of course.
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Those colors look a tad too... bright to me. Need to be dulled/darkened a bit IMHO.
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My gripe is the uniformity of the "nur heir betretten" areas (the walk areas). It's perfect, and stops perfectly at the lines, no less. I think it would look more like some of Kev's spitfires (but not so worn off), where it's heaviest around the root where people stand most, then less so out on the edge.
The traffic area would extend forward of the cockpit, though, because ground crew stood on the wings hugging the fuselage and leaning forward to service the engine quite often.
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Thanks again Fencer.
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Darn Krusty got his point in before I did. Way to sharp fencer, I just dont think it would look like that in RL. No offence. Another great skin BTW and thats the only gripe Ive got against it!
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But does the wear and schuffing look ok on the wings in the walk areas. Not the amount and location but the effect.
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Originally posted by Fencer51
But does the wear and schuffing look ok on the wings in the walk areas. Not the amount and location but the effect.
no
ditch the effects and do it by hand. in fact ditch all effects you are using. I dont use any "special defects" except basic layer properties like opacity fill linear burn dodge or normal pass through etc.
yes its slow and tedious but its not that bad taking the time to do it when it ends up looking ok after your done
agree on the colors i ordered the big 80 dollar german aircraft color swatch book but its not here yet so cant make a comment on hue or saturation but it might do well to lower this to give it a bit more realism.
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Well the effect consisted of using two different brushes and 3 different colors and changing the opacity along with a pass at 20% of a blur brush, not anything fancy.
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aye sorry trying to help
i just use a 1 pixel brush for the walkway scratches and erase it with a small eraser brush.
the fancy brushes are not very useful in my opinion
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Right-O I will rework the area, and I appreciate the help truly.
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The chips look a little too random to me. I like the chips to conform to the structure below the skin to a degree. The skin is supported by the ribs, spars and bulkheads it is riveted to, but not in the gaps between. The supported areas should get chipped more creating a hint of what lies beneath. You can see this effect in some WW2 photos.
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I have completely reworked the entire skin. Different base colors, different camo pattern on the fusalage.
I found a profile of the plane in question that changed my mind on the camo layout.
Once I rework the wear/tear/chips/dirt I will post for final evaluation.
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Ok revised and finalized. Anything wrong, let me hear about it.
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/JG11G14_A.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/JG11G14_B.jpg)
(http://www.4thfg.org/Fencer/JG11G14_C.jpg)
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Looks great. Green seems about right, but im still not sure about the brown... im no expert though. Anyone else think something looks out of place?
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Nice job Fencer. The camouflage, weathering and paint chips all look a lot more realistic now. :aok
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Thanks Greebo, I am pretty darn pleased with it myself. :aok
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Way to go Fencer! Love it. All the squad looks forward to flying it. :aok As always Thank you and
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That definitely looks better than it used to
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Very Nice! :aok
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I need to check this board more often...
Looks terrific Fencer.
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fencer, if i could make one suggestion for all of your skins, try anti-aliasing the diagonal lines. right now they're doing the staircase jagged effect. the panels look far nicer if the lines are anti-aliased :aok
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To each their own. I prefer un-aliased lines myself (because aliased lines appear thicker, they bulge in and out as they overlap, etc).
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Wow, very good Fencer. Much improvement since the first post. Great work. Looks very good.
:aok :aok
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Looks good Fencer!! job well done...:aok
~S~
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Originally posted by Krusty
To each their own. I prefer un-aliased lines myself (because aliased lines appear thicker, they bulge in and out as they overlap, etc).
Gotta agree with the painted one here. I personally cannot get them to look as good as the jagged lines.
And TY all.
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I prefer the antialiased lines.
the jagged ones look very unrealistic to me.
besides line width is a function of transparency when the line is needed to be less than 1 pixel
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Ok I will try them on my next skin. :aok
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I dont use any fancy techniques I just rotate or skew 1 pixel horizontal or vertical lines
or if its a curved line I use the polygonal lasso and fill it with black then move it over or down in the direction I need and delete the rest.
for circles i use the antialiased circle and delete the middle or use the subtract circle from the origional circle thingy then fill it with black paintbucket.
really basic methods I dont like doing things with fancy computer methods because I think people get to caught up in that effects BS and forget that they just need to draw and recreate what they see with their eyes and the rest takes care of itself more or less.
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Submitted, and I will do your (JG11's) OTHER G14 skin next.. Stampf has seen the basis for it.
Also still looking for a JG11 Bf-109-K4.
Cheers
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Wow, another skin for us. This is like Christmas! Thanks a bunch!