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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Troy21 on June 25, 2007, 11:47:01 PM
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First: I'm sorry by my badly english. ok?
You can believe to me, because I am sure that to more than a person has happened the same.
It begins to be very boring and annoying, that a M4, for example, damaged in addition, kills my Tiger, to the first shot, from the head of runaway to the VH and in front.
I have approximately been in AH in different seasons from a year and means and it has never lacked guy (of a way that never I have understood) kills to me with a really impossible shot.
Of equal way, I have had to 60 yards to a Pnzer and I aim 10, 12 , 15 direct-fire shots with AP ammo to him, and it brings forth a little to him smoke not even. Then he reaches to turn his turret and to the first shot he kills to me. TO FIRST SHOT.
This is not new, has happened to me in diverse occasions, the different seasons that there are been in AH.
Somebody can explain me this, before it finishes boring to me and going to look for another place to me for air combat?
I have loved AH, in the seasons that I have come here. I have known people valuable and I always try to correspoder in the same way.
But of people like whom I have commented, of them, I do not want to know nothing. (Except, obvious if it is that they can explain how they make those things so preposterous).
TROY21
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The Damage model is messed up.
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Since you've been playing a while I'm sure you already know this but let's just make sure.
Before you ever get in a GV set your ground detail to max and your object detail to min in the video settings. This gives you 3 miles of visibility to spot the dot of an enemy tank and gets rid of all the tree/shrub/object clutter.
When you spot the dot get in your turrret, aim to it and zoom in. Now the object clutter will come into view. Keep zooming in and out until there's no objects left between you and your target.
Zoom in as close as you can while ranging.
Once ranged aim for (in approximate order and depending on orientation):
The turret
The point where the turret meets the hull
The tracks
The back/engine area
The drivers view opening in the hull
Now that that's out of the way the Sherman armour is overmodeled in it's current state and with it's big gun the Sherman can easily take out a Tiger in one shot.
At the same time the Tiger has difficulty with the Sherman's armour. Particularily with the high slope of the front armour and the armour around where the cannon meets the turret.
If I were you I'd quit taking Tigers out when there's Shermans around. The risk of loss is currently too high. The only time I'd risk it is if I had to also try to survive ariel attack as a lone base defender or on the maps where the Shermans are disabled.
Hopefully they'll look at this in the next patch.
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:cry Spikes stole my avatar.
and i hate shermans. The armor needs toned down a bit. At this point its easier to pop a Panzer with a Hurricane 2d than the Zippo. (i know where to hit them to kill them though, its just not happening). But i must say, they make a great target for rockets.
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I have to admit. The damage model is BS. Everyone knows that the Germans lost only 1 Tiger during WWII and that was not to a Panzer or M4.
They just forgot were they parked it :O
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Talk about impossible shots is it just me or tanks of late seem very good at taking out aircraft with their main gun? Even though I have been as much as 2k away & at high speed in fighters I have been killed 5 times this month so far in this manner.
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Originally posted by lyric1
Talk about impossible shots is it just me or tanks of late seem very good at taking out aircraft with their main gun? Even though I have been as much as 2k away & at high speed in fighters I have been killed 5 times this month so far in this manner.
I have noticed the same thing but I cant say if it was GVs or a manned ack, but flying VERY fast and turning a bit as well, no NME planes in area-Boom Tower...... WTF?
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Originally posted by lyric1
Talk about impossible shots is it just me or tanks of late seem very good at taking out aircraft with their main gun? Even though I have been as much as 2k away & at high speed in fighters I have been killed 5 times this month so far in this manner.
I agree. I got a Lanc at 4k out about a month ago from a panzers main gun. Then got another from the same set at 2K when he was looping (yes looping) back around for another drop.
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Originally posted by lyric1
Talk about impossible shots is it just me or tanks of late seem very good at taking out aircraft with their main gun? Even though I have been as much as 2k away & at high speed in fighters I have been killed 5 times this month so far in this manner.
I was parked on an enemy airfield just inside a hanger one night in a Panzer and got 2 fighters with my main gun, both in the air crossing in front of me just after take off, sort of like a gunslinger hip shot. Low buffs are easy.
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Originally posted by lyric1
Talk about impossible shots is it just me or tanks of late seem very good at taking out aircraft with their main gun? Even though I have been as much as 2k away & at high speed in fighters I have been killed 5 times this month so far in this manner.
There are quite a few people who are capable of knocking airplanes down. I finally gave it a shot, and after some practice, got 4 or 5 planes with the Firefly's cannon in one sortie. I lawld. It's just like every other weapon- once you figure out the lead and timing, you start killing more. Just remember to exercise caution on those strafing runs- if you can see down the barrel, you're doing something wrong.
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AIMBOT
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According to which it says to BaldEagl in his first answer: I know well where to strike to a tank to eliminate it.
The problem is not there. Also I have graphical resolutions that allow to see it me the maximum distances possible. That is not the problem either.
But, if you say to me to me that there is a fault of design in the Sherman, now then why continues costing very expensive to be able to use a Tiger? (an average of 50 perk points).
In The History Channel, I saw a program where a soldier of the WWII commented about the Sherman that made its own country, and he said that was like a "Ronson" (talking about to the lighter for its cigarettes). The Sherman ignited then their armor very easily was very poor compared with the Panzer. We do not say then against a Tiger.
If on the one hand I agree upon which the development of a game as Aces High is an arduous work (I have seen how the scenes for compatible MSFS 2004 are elaborated, for example) and that the employees of the company very are perhaps occupied always working in benefit of all and his clients, I do not let ask myself: and perhaps they cannot see that I am not the only user who is complaining this malfunction?
To be able perk points to buy a Tiger or a bomber AR 234B, "a simple" but very effective FU-IC even costs its own work and time. And that any player, without to have invested nor single perk point in acquiring a Sherman kills to you with impunity, I believe that he puts very badly of humor to anyone.
To wait for the following patch of the program? Still I am waiting for the winning B25 of the aid in whom we participated all...
Thanks all by your answers.
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This has been complained about and debated in several forums. I think I've seen posts in the bug reports forum, this forum and the aircraft and vehicles forum.
Suggestions have ranged from re-modeling the armor to reducing the perk price on the Tiger to adding a perk price to the Sherman.
Do a search for Sherman Armor. You'll find you're not alone.
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THANKS TO YOU. VERY MUCH.
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Originally posted by toadkill
:cry Spikes stole my avatar.
no, I got this from another forum...
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Originally posted by Troy21
In The History Channel, I saw a program where a soldier of the WWII commented about the Sherman that made its own country, and he said that was like a "Ronson" (talking about to the lighter for its cigarettes). The Sherman ignited then their armor very easily was very poor compared with the Panzer. We do not say then against a Tiger.
Actually, the Sherman's armor stacks up well against the Panzer IV we have in the game. One place it is thicker is on top of the tank, which is why it is harder to kill from a Hurri IID or IL2 than a Panzer.
The "Ronson" nickname was because of the earlier Shermans' propensity to burn, which was due to inadequate ammunition storage, not the armor. This flaw was largely corrected in later versions.
In Normandy and after, the 30 ton Sherman was often up against the 45 ton Panther (Pzkw V, which is not in AH) that had a better tank-killing gun than even the Tiger I. It isn't surprising the armor didn't hold up. Guess what -- the History Channel's "Best tank ever", the T-34, was just as much mincemeat as the Sherman by that time when compared to the Panther.
The Sherman acquired a bad reputation because by 1944 it was outclassed by the opposition. The T-34 somehow maintained a good reputation that was built up when it was superior to PzkwIIs, IIIs and early IVs. But it was still outclassed by 1944. I bring this up to demonstrate that reputation does not always neatly mesh with reality.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
if you can see down the barrel, you're doing something wrong. [/B]
Didn't even count those times. lol
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Originally posted by SpikesX
no, I got this from another forum...
Wow. speak of coincidence. I'd rate the percentage of us picking the same avatar on the same day as about a .005% chance.
(no sarcasm, not calling you a liar, just astonished that it happened.)
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Originally posted by toadkill
:cry Spikes stole my avatar.
:cry :cry he stole mine aswell :cry :cry
:noid :noid :noid :noid
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
There are quite a few people who are capable of knocking airplanes down. I finally gave it a shot, and after some practice, got 4 or 5 planes with the Firefly's cannon in one sortie. I lawld. It's just like every other weapon- once you figure out the lead and timing, you start killing more. Just remember to exercise caution on those strafing runs- if you can see down the barrel, you're doing something wrong.
AKDream from 2k. I was in an IL2 egressing with a right hand turn, looking back in F3 mode. Watched the tracer go over and to the outside of my left wing, heaved a sigh of relief, then the wing came off. He had, of course, already shot me down once with the main gun.
I just HATE those heat seeking HE rounds. Dream seems to have a pretty good supplier.
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Originally posted by AApache
AIMBOT
:noid