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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SkyRock on June 26, 2007, 12:44:40 PM
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of the luftwaffe attacking like I said, mostly from high 6 with a ton of speed. There are at least 2 HO passes, but mostly they are coming in on 6, hitting tail gunner first, then ruddering from side to side to hit all engines. One of the 110's was actually one helluva shot as he went from each engine on the bomber making sure he put a tater in each one. Also they have 190's killing a pony, a lightning, and an La5!
Here's the link:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8oA9zy-qtxA
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THe opening footage where it showed the 190 going Head on with the liberator looked painful...The cockpit of the liberator was filled with cannon shells..there had to be at least 1 casuaty in there..
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I cant stream video. Can one of you send me a downloadable link in my PMs.?
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Originally posted by Platano
THe opening footage where it showed the 190 going Head on with the liberator looked painful...The cockpit of the liberator was filled with cannon shells..there had to be at least 1 casuaty in there..
That was an amazing shot. It is interesting watching this video. Because most of us are from the US, we are always shown footage of our pilots shooting down german and japanese planes. This short video was different to watch because it is opposite to anything we are usually shown.
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Sobering like all gun camera footage. Thanks for posting.
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Painful to watch regardless of who filmed it cause someone is more then likely really dying in those shots.
I did note however that despite LW protests about the AKAKosphere 38s, that it was the LW birds trying to pick the low alt 38s and that the 38s cut inside the turn and the pickers missed!
In the AH world I can kinda relate:)
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thx for posting. i agree with hamfist in that i had never seen footage from the german perspective.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Painful to watch regardless of who filmed it cause someone is more then likely really dying in those shots.
I did note however that despite LW protests about the AKAKosphere 38s, that it was the LW birds trying to pick the low alt 38s and that the 38s cut inside the turn and the pickers missed!
In the AH world I can kinda relate:)
Yeah Dan, I was thinking about how people say, good pilots never got low on the deck, but many of the fights ended there! It was a nice manuver, seeing as how the FW was going to fast to pull up in that direction without snaprolling into those fields! :aok
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to all the guys no matter what side they were on, whom served and gave their lives for their country.
as a side note..
Real life seems to be missing all that bomber lazer ack we have here in AH. Try sitting behind a bomber here in AH and see how long that luftwaffe lasts.
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Originally posted by crockett
to all the guys no matter what side they were on, whom served and gave their lives for their country.
as a side note..
Real life seems to be missing all that bomber lazer ack we have here in AH. Try sitting behind a bomber here in AH and see how long that luftwaffe lasts.
1st ping relieves you of engine or engine oil every time.
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Originally posted by crockett
to all the guys no matter what side they were on, whom served and gave their lives for their country.
I second this,
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Originally posted by crockett
to all the guys no matter what side they were on, whom served and gave their lives for their country.
as a side note..
Real life seems to be missing all that bomber lazer ack we have here in AH. Try sitting behind a bomber here in AH and see how long that luftwaffe lasts.
If you look close, you can see on many of the tail shots that the ball turret guns are pointed down. That generally means the gunner has been told to get out of the turret as they are abandoning the aircraft.
Chances are the tail gunner is headed for the hatch if he isn't already dead from an earlier pass.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
If you look close, you can see on many of the tail shots that the ball turret guns are pointed down. That generally means the gunner has been told to get out of the turret as they are abandoning the aircraft.
Chances are the tail gunner is headed for the hatch if he isn't already dead from an earlier pass.
Usually when LW planes used to saddled up on bombers like that it was either because of 2 things:
Because the tail gunner had already bailed or because he was alredy dead.
An immobolized rear gun meant open season on a bombers tail section.
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If you notice a clip at the end a B17's gear starts to lower as a me110 rakes it with cannon.That meant the 110 just shot out the hydraulics.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
If you notice a clip at the end a B17's gear starts to lower as a me110 rakes it with cannon.That meant the 110 just shot out the hydraulics.
Maybe it was the sign for "surrender"
:D
:noid
:D
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I DO have a WMv of this footage, without the youtube posters added flairs,
it is 8 + minutes, and 6.99 MB if anyone wants to host it.
Pm me for hosting info
oh yeah that 190 shooting down an La5.... that an A8 for cripes sake.....
let's see an A8 in AH hang with an La5 let alone any other "turny" plane :rofl :cry
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Originally posted by Guppy35
If you look close, you can see on many of the tail shots that the ball turret guns are pointed down. That generally means the gunner has been told to get out of the turret as they are abandoning the aircraft.
I believe I saw comments on this footage in the past that some of the videos versus B-17s were test flights where captured B-17s were flown out and rigged with something to make them stay level as the pilot bailed, then the fighter had at it.
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Nice find SkyRock.. good film except for the cheezy music that was added.
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What most should take away from this, is how damn tough the b17s/b24s were, taking MULTIPLE 30mm and 20mm rounds and just continuing on there merry way.
Also big difference between the 30mm splashes and the 20mm stuff. Wow!
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Originally posted by SirLoin
If you notice a clip at the end a B17's gear starts to lower as a me110 rakes it with cannon.That meant the 110 just shot out the hydraulics.
notice the lack of return fire from the bomber's defensive positions indicating injured or dead crewmen. very sobering indeed.
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*i need a gunner* takes on a whole new meaning
"funny thing" is that many of those guys on both sides were not much older than the squakers in the game
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Originally posted by Platano
THe opening footage where it showed the 190 going Head on with the liberator looked painful...The cockpit of the liberator was filled with cannon shells..there had to be at least 1 casuaty in there..
Exactly my thought.
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I have watched a couple hundred hours of these types of videos and alway a few things come to mind.
For every fighter or bomber you see shot down another 100 were shot up so bad they had to abort the mission(they didnt die but they didnt drop there bombs either)
And while i am thinking of it can anyone show me just 1 video of a bomber doing a BARRLE ROLL or LOOP and or a SPLIT-S while being shot at or
can anyone show me just 1 video of a fighter with an enemy on his 6 jinking the hell out of his plane without **** falling off it
ALL GOOD PEOPLE OF AH
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That was very sobering. It was actually kind of chilling to see the cockpit shot. That feeling of being helpless.
All Countries who fought in the skies of WWII. Good Point: It shows that a B17/B24 cannot do areobatics.
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Originally posted by 5PointOh
Good Point: It shows that a B17/B24 cannot do areobatics.
It shows that large bombers didn't do aerobatics. Take into account that your life would be put in more danger by doing such things in real life, where that's a nonfactor in a game. Also, bombers in real life were 2-5x higher than you'll generally find them in this game.
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bombers at 100k ooz?
i typically will never find bombers under17-22k in game, unless i get lucky...
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Originally posted by evenhaim
bombers at 100k ooz?
Boy your math bites. I see bombers between 3k and 10k all the time.
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Originally posted by evenhaim
bombers at 100k ooz?
i typically will never find bombers under17-22k in game, unless i get lucky...
90% of the buffs I kill are below 12K
(And 90% of the buffs that kill ME are above 20 ;) )
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What most should take away from this, is how damn tough the b17s/b24s were, taking MULTIPLE 30mm and 20mm rounds and just continuing on there merry way.
Actually, it only feels that way because guncam footage plays at approx. 1/3rd the speed of real life, and is detailed enough for people to get a clear impression on every cannon round impacting.
What happens is, the rounds connecting to the bombers happen slower with a very clear picture on the powerful HE impact. Naturally the dramtic, slow multiple HE impact leaves a much clearer impression on the person watching - whereas in AH, in most cases the shooting moment just flashes by quickly with teensey-weensey white glob hit sprites flashing on the target (30mms do produce better HE effect, but not quite as clearly dramatic as in the guncam footages).
For example, if someone would film an AH Typhoon or a CHog attacking a buff in a single pass and blowing it up, and then somehow make it look like a real life guncam footage with all them explosions, the footage would look like the Typh or the Chog is saddled up behind a buff at slow speed and leisurely lobbing couple hundred of 20mms rounds which explodes all over the buff in a spectacular-but-horrifying length of time - bascially like that LW footage, which in reality, all happened in a few second's time.
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I tend to shoot the same way in AH, using rudder to hose across wingtip to wingtip. Its a bad habit in here because its better to just waste one spot than to fan out the fire.