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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dichotomy on June 27, 2007, 09:35:20 PM
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Most men dream of being able to show the bravery that this young man is in this photograph. May the good lord and time heal his soul and give him peace.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/dichotomy/christian.jpg)
“Dear Tennessean:
The Tennessean's April 5 photograph of young Christian Golczynski accepting the American flag from Marine Lt. Col. Ric Thompson is one of the most moving and emotion provoking images I have ever seen.
My wife and I attended funeral services for Christian's father, Staff Sergeant Marcus Golczynski, on April 4, along with our six year-old son, dozens of Marines, and several hundred others who came to pay tribute to this fallen hero.
As one would expect, many of your readers were touched by this incredible picture. Staff Sergeant Golczynski had previously served one full tour in Iraq. Shortly before his death on March 27 he wrote to his family that he had volunteered to do this a second time due to our deep desire to finish the job we started. In his letter he said, "We fight and sometimes die so that our families don't have to." Tragically, Staff Sergeant Golczynski had only two weeks remaining on his second tour. We look at the photograph of Christian every day. It is displayed prominently in our home. Our hearts ache for Christian and for all those who have lost loved ones in this controversial conflict.
Our nation is at a historical crossroads. Do we call an end to the struggle in Iraq or press on? Staff Sergeant Golczynski eloquently told his son how he felt about not giving up. Perhaps there is a lesson for all of us in this man's life and the choices he made. He was undeniably a man of tremendous courage and conviction. America must now choose whether to complete the job.
When looking at the face of Christian Golczynski I am reminded that doing what is right is not always easy and doing what is easy is not always right. Christian's dad knew that too.
James Drescher
Franklin, TN “
Christian Golczynski
SSGT Golczynski
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Sempre Fi Marine.
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Thanks for posting that.
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Salute!
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Amen Dichotomy.
Courage is something I think everyone is born with the potential for. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have parents who can show them how to draw on that potential. That young man is one of the fortunate.
Christian and SSGT Golczynski.
asw
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Very touching, and speaking from a photographer's point of view, a very difficult shot to take, from the emotional aspect and respect of family point of view.
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God bless him.
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Incredible photography and display of bravery. If I could get my hands on a high resolution copy of that picture I would have it framed and displayed in my living room.
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Originally posted by Viking
Incredible photography and display of bravery. If I could get my hands on a high resolution copy of that picture I would have it framed and displayed in my living room.
HEAR! HEAR!
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Originally posted by detch01
Amen Dichotomy.
Courage is something I think everyone is born with the potential for. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have parents who can show them how to draw on that potential. That young man is one of the fortunate.
Christian and SSGT Golczynski.
asw
You've gotta be kidding.
Fortunate???
His Dad wont ever be coming home.
Personally I think fortune has taken the most important man in that boy's world from him just when he is needed the most.
A more unfortunate set of circumstances than are pictured there is hard to imagine.
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Sorry, but WHAT??? His father was a marine who took the decision to serve a 2nd time in Iraq.....and you call him a murderer? Jebus fella, waaaaay harsh, totally uncalled for. Feel free to disagree with the war, but leave personal attacks out please.
Wurzel
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Vad
I think that was very uncalled for. I'd appreciate it if you respected the theme of my thread and left your personal political feelings out of it. I'd be happy to debate your point of view with you elsewhere.
Viking I'll try to make time to contact the Tennesseean tomorrow and see if a hi res copy is available.
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Originally posted by Vad
I'm a loser and don't know when i should keep my mouth shut.
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Rule 4
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
Vad
I think that was very uncalled for. I'd appreciate it if you respected the theme of my thread and left your personal political feelings out of it. I'd be happy to debate your point of view with you elsewhere.
Viking I'll try to make time to contact the Tennesseean tomorrow and see if a hi res copy is available.
Ok, I've done.
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Rule #4
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Liked it? Trust me, nobody likes being in a war, but some things are worth doing. If you disagree with that, fair enough, thats your right, but calling any serving forces member a murderer - way past the point of reasonable disagreement. Given english isnt your first language, I'm hoping you just had a poor choice of words.
Wurzel
Oh, and before you ask, yes, I've been under fire, and fired back!
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
Viking I'll try to make time to contact the Tennesseean tomorrow and see if a hi res copy is available.
Thank you!
Vad ... totally uncalled for.
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Originally posted by Vad
Rule #4
wow. do really feel that way or are you trolling?
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Originally posted by Bluedog
You've gotta be kidding.
Fortunate???
His Dad wont ever be coming home.
Personally I think fortune has taken the most important man in that boy's world from him just when he is needed the most.
A more unfortunate set of circumstances than are pictured there is hard to imagine.
BlueDog the "fortunate" is in reference to having had the chance to learn what courage is by seeing it first hand (his father's). Just to spell out exactly what I mean by that, seeing as you seem so prone to misunderstanding: SSGT Golcdynski was on his second tour. He knew what he was up against and he was willing to take the risk to do a job that needed to be done. That's courage. When you run into someone who has it you see it in the way they live their lives every single minute your around them. And you can see the courage of the father in the face of the son - well maybe not you, but I can. If you think that I consider the loss of SSGT Golczynski nothing of moment to his son you're wrong. But he's far better off to have had the time he did with his father than spending 20 years under the tutelage of a bagless drone.
asw
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Originally posted by detch01
BlueDog the "fortunate" is in reference to having had the chance to learn what courage is by seeing it first hand (his father's). Just to spell out exactly what I mean by that, seeing as you seem so prone to misunderstanding: SSGT Golcdynski was on his second tour. He knew what he was up against and he was willing to take the risk to do a job that needed to be done. That's courage. When you run into someone who has it you see it in the way they live their lives every single minute your around them. And you can see the courage of the father in the face of the son - well maybe not you, but I can. If you think that I consider the loss of SSGT Golczynski nothing of moment to his son you're wrong. But he's far better off to have had the time he did with his father than spending 20 years under the tutelage of a bagless drone.
asw
very well said.
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That is a great picture. It shouldn't be politicized by either side.
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Originally posted by detch01
BlueDog the "fortunate" is in reference to having had the chance to learn what courage is by seeing it first hand (his father's). Just to spell out exactly what I mean by that, seeing as you seem so prone to misunderstanding: SSGT Golcdynski was on his second tour. He knew what he was up against and he was willing to take the risk to do a job that needed to be done. That's courage. When you run into someone who has it you see it in the way they live their lives every single minute your around them. And you can see the courage of the father in the face of the son - well maybe not you, but I can. If you think that I consider the loss of SSGT Golczynski nothing of moment to his son you're wrong. But he's far better off to have had the time he did with his father than spending 20 years under the tutelage of a bagless drone.
asw
couldn't have said it better :aok
PS for those interested I've contacted the Tennessean and am awaiting their response.
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Thanks Dichotomy I would be interested in a copy as well.
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Vad, feel free to stop on by some time. I'd love to have a lil chat with ya.
handsomehunk
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Very moving picture.
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Originally posted by USRanger
Vad, feel free to stop on by some time. I'd love to have a lil chat with ya.
handsomehunk
I'd like to be there for the chat also.
Dicto Thanks Bro for the Pic and thread. Add me in for a copy too.
PM me Bro I have a different number to give you.
Mac
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ill also love to be in that lil chat too :furious :furious
i mean COMEON! right now soldiers in Humvees cant even afford to stay still in cities for very long,or they stand the chance of IED's, RPG's, Car bombs, Ambushes.
and solders are murderers in your book?, Vad?
.i see it as they are doing their job as told,and they are also trying to stop terrorism and that a [SIZE=1000]+[/SIZE] for the world,even if they have to kill to reach this goal.
Collateral damage is unavoidable in war, especially with crazed terrorist going 'LALALA!!' ,and suicide bomb them selfs killing innocents and soldiers..
i can keep on for a 3 page rant..
Here is a Near PNG worthy image that can explain all of the above ranting...
Also,cool pic and my prayers out to his family and loved ones
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Originally posted by midnight Target
That is a great picture. It shouldn't be politicized by either side.
Nailed it.
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Originally posted by detch01
BlueDog the "fortunate" is in reference to having had the chance to learn what courage is by seeing it first hand (his father's). Just to spell out exactly what I mean by that, seeing as you seem so prone to misunderstanding: SSGT Golcdynski was on his second tour. He knew what he was up against and he was willing to take the risk to do a job that needed to be done. That's courage. When you run into someone who has it you see it in the way they live their lives every single minute your around them. And you can see the courage of the father in the face of the son - well maybe not you, but I can. If you think that I consider the loss of SSGT Golczynski nothing of moment to his son you're wrong. But he's far better off to have had the time he did with his father than spending 20 years under the tutelage of a bagless drone.
asw
Point taken.
His Dad was no doubt a shining example of what a role model should be, I have no problem with that.
I just think fortunate was a poor choice of words thats all.
All very well to respect and salute a hero, but that heroism has a cost, one that,as illustrated all to plainly in that photograph, is not only borne by those who fight and give their lives, but allso by those they leave behind.
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for those interested in a copy of the picture I got this response from the Tennessean
Photo Requests
Please have the customer call 615.664.2267. Prices below exclude sales tax.
Size Print Framed Reprint (1-time publication rights)
8×10 $40.00 $160.00 $285.00
11×14 $65.00 $195.00 None
16×20 $105.00 $235.00 None
20×30 $130.00 $345.00 None
Thank you
Gwenetta Sapp
Customer Service Representative
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Thank you Dichotomy!
Do you know if there is another way to order the picture than by telephone, since I live outside the US and all? Do they even deliver outside the US?
Thanks again!
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Hi Dichotomy,
The issues involved in this thread are too close to me for me to be able to contribute (I have a congregation filled with kids of about Christian's age, whose fathers are, have been, or will be in Iraq and Afghanistan and my heart stops whenever the phone rings after 11pm) but I did want to thank you for posting it - even if it's a hard for me to look at it.
- SEAGOON
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Originally posted by Viking
Thank you Dichotomy!
Do you know if there is another way to order the picture than by telephone, since I live outside the US and all? Do they even deliver outside the US?
Thanks again!
I'm sure they do.. I'd say call their number and if you have problems that you can't resolve pm me and we'll work things out.
Seagoon I understand. That picture hit me to the deepest depths of my heart. We shall speak offline as to the reasons why when time allows for both of us. I know you're busy as am I but I'd like to talk to you about a variety of things when we have the time.
all
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great pix.