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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: NHawk on June 28, 2007, 06:04:13 AM
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Just some advice...
1: Treat your fellow pilots with respect. Nothing will sour a day or evening of AH faster than some braindead, foul mouthed person, who has an infantile need to demonstrate and assert his lack of class and education. Some players, mostly younger new players (newbies), think this kind of interaction is 'cool' and believe that they are receiving positive attention because of their aggressive, obnoxious behavior. In fact, they are seriously jepardizing their future success in the game by alienating more experienced players who will simply ignore them on the radio and refuse entrance into a quality Squadron, regardless of their skill. (Not to mention they make excellent targets due to their constant mindless chatter and its inherent weakness, a lack of Situational Awareness)
1A: In an expanded thought, always try to remember the following; due to Aces High's inevitable combative and conflictive nature, and the degree of seriousness which some people apply to it, it is not unusual for tempers to flare. This sometimes manifests itself in angry, mean spirited, radio confrontations consisting of unacceptable language. If you feel the need to get involved in one of these...DON'T! The rest of us have better things to do than listen to alot of raw four letter whining. If it simply won't go away, take it into a more private setting or to settle it, fight a 1 on 1 duel in the DA. Talk it out via email. Anything, just keep it off the radio in the arenas! Nobody wins in these useless arguments and everybody looses. Final thought on this. If one individual is constantly irritating others with TOS (Terms of Service) violations or other unacceptable conduct, he will soon be reported to HTC (who quietly cruise the arenas regularly anyway) and can be banned from AH. No joke. No refund either.
2: AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while. Know who controls what base or airfield. Keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Look at the maps and try to understand why taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical in some instances and less so in others. There is alot involved if you take the time to look for it and understand it. It will increase your enjoyment of the game tremendously.
3: Keep your eye on the radio messages. They serve two primary functions. First and foremost, they keep you informed of what is currently happening in the arena. Concentrations of friends or enemies, bases that are currently under attack or that are operational or nonoperational, approximate locations of incoming targets, what needs to be destroyed at a certain base, etc. The second reason for a new player to pay attention to his radio, is to get a sense of who is an experienced player and who isn't. Experienced, well grounded players will normally be very willing to help you with questions you may have and won't reply with "try Alt-F4". The difference between just asking anyone and asking an experienced player is that you'll probably get the right answer first time. Not much point in a newbie asking a newbie. There is a big down side to watching your radio, however. It means you aren't watching the sky around you, and that boys and girls, is deadly. Situational awareness is the key to survival in AH and survival is the key to success. At first, try to find a comfortable balance between learning and playing AH. After a while, you'll be able to do both without neglecting either.
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Good points fella, being new to the game (tho trying to get better rapidly so I can help and not be a hindrance). Flew last night in the LW orange, had a good time, lots of fights, lots of a/c calling and tracking......all the guys who were in the area where I was hindering everything were great....made it even more enjoyable.
Wurzel
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Originally posted by NHawk
2: AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up.
Thank you.
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1. No dispute. Though I just use .squelch if somebody really bugs me.
1A. No dispute. Again (for me) I just use .squelch if somebody bugs me though.
2. Can't agree with you on this one. While that may be what you prefer in the game, each player defines what they enjoy. Telling newbies this will increase their enjoyment of the game is a bit closed-minded to me. Sometimes doing something 'pointless' is the whole point. I do meaningful things all day at work and don't need a game to become another responsibility. AH is an escape - a game even. There are times I just want to shoot red guys for the sake of shooting red guys and say screw strategy. Sometimes playing the strat game can be fun. I say to the newbies, try all aspects, determine what you enjoy and have fun doing what you like in the game. Oh, and regardless of whether you prefer to be a furballer or strat guy, somebody's gonna tell you you're playing the game wrong and ruining their fun, you're not a team player, do this, do that, blah blah blah...
3. No dispute. But I will respond with 'Try ALT-F4' everytime somebody asks for the 'Cheat Codes' :D In my opinion, it's quite justifiable for that type of request.
The bottom line to my suggestion here - have fun. :aok
Glove
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After point A and A1, this is nothing more but another play my way thread
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I work nights and go on AH during the day, well Monday and Tuesday I took vacation to work around the house and flew AH at night.
Don't know if it was a coincidence or not but I found the time spent at
night was more enjoyable than the day, there was some of the crap that
shows upon Ch 200, but far less than I see during the day, but most was
friendly banner, even got some advice from opposing players. Made for the
best time I've had on AH to date.
Just my 2 cents.
Goat1
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Originally posted by NHawk
Just some advice...try "Alt-F4".
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok :aok :p
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Good note NHawk. I agree with everything you said. I enjoy strategy of games and I am in it for the enjoyment of taking bases and not running up my rating. I am team oriented and like the aspect of being in a Squad that wants to do something and cares when we win or lose bases.
Love to see a squad of Jugs.....pillowy soft....oops wrong ones.
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Originally posted by dedalos
After point A and A1, this is nothing more but another play my way thread
Yep, but even before that its a "be nice to people even when they arent nice to you" tree hugger thread.
1. I pay my $16.03 you dont like how I treat you or others to bad.
1a. I dont cuss on any VOX other then squad. If they are cussing hit alt+r if not squelch.
2. I pay my $16.03 and I love to mix it up in fighters I hardly ever help with base capure because it just ruins the fight.
3. During night time I will help noobs out in the MA because no one is in the MA, but when there are people in there during the daytime my four answers to every noob question is:
a. Alt+F4
b. Ctrl+Tab+Esc
c. Goto the TA
d. STFU n00b
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Rule #1: Drink alcohol.
Rule #B: Shoot chutes.
3rd Rule: See Rule #1.
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1. Respect is something that should be earned. Of course, when I started doing this, the club was a little exclusive. Most noobs were hazed until they had "earned their spurs" or they were simply ignored. Today, it's a kinder, gentler virtual world. :)
1A. Sometimes, the HATE can be quite entertaining. Of course, with noobs, it can quickly get out of hand.
2. The game is an air combat simulation with superfluous activities that are provided to enhance the air combat experience.
3. While I am usually willing to assist anyone that asks, I am not willing to be a substitute for the AH helpfiles. I spent years doing that for Kesmai (on their dime), I won't spend my leisure time doing it here. For those that can't be bothered with a little reading....RTFM NOOB!.
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What he said ^.
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Nice try NHawk, but as you can see from most of the replies, playing with respect for other players at times would be better addressed to some of the "experienced players".
I don't see where NHawk said you HAD to play one way or the other, but more to the point, suggested that learning the other aspects of the game might make the game more enjoyable.
NoBaddy:The game is an air combat simulation with superfluous activities that are provided to enhance the air combat experience.
Here is an eye opener for ya.
HTC:Aces High II is a massive multi-player online combat simulation centered around the World War II air-war.
Welcome to the Internet's Premier WWII Combat Experience!
Engage in Air, Land or Sea Combat.
Centered around the air-war. But designed for more than that. With out the other apsects of AHII you might as well go play CFS2. The most boring "Fighter Simulation" available. You start in your plane, fly into the masses, and when you get shot down, you respawn on the edge of the furball. Wow, what fun. Something else you might consider, that without all those other aspects of the game, you might just find yourself furballing with yourself. The game has appeal to so many because it has such a broad base.
NHawk. Good post. To bad it falls on so many deaf ears.
LTARsqrl <> :aok
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Suggest? He plainly states that the types of gameplay he doesn't care for are pointless, and goes on to declare that newer players will enjoy the game more if they do what he tells them.
We're not deaf, but we're not stupid either, which is why the response to his orders is less than enthusiastic.
Anyone who has to be told how to have fun in a game probably should spend their money elsewhere.
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Originally posted by NHawk
Just some advice...
1: Treat your fellow pilots with respect. Nothing will sour a day or evening of AH faster than some braindead, foul mouthed person, who has an infantile need to demonstrate and assert his lack of class and education. Some players, mostly younger new players (newbies), think this kind of interaction is 'cool' and believe that they are receiving positive attention because of their aggressive, obnoxious behavior. In fact, they are seriously jepardizing their future success in the game by alienating more experienced players who will simply ignore them on the radio and refuse entrance into a quality Squadron, regardless of their skill. (Not to mention they make excellent targets due to their constant mindless chatter and its inherent weakness, a lack of Situational Awareness)ok...on this one, i hear MANY more older more experienced pilots.......2 come to mind.......don't wanna name em, but think of the german STOL plane... the feisler ______.
the other one i haven't seen in a LONG time....but what ya do to ur kid when he backtalks ya? ya ____ him .:D
1A: In an expanded thought, always try to remember the following; due to Aces High's inevitable combative and conflictive nature, and the degree of seriousness which some people apply to it, it is not unusual for tempers to flare. This sometimes manifests itself in angry, mean spirited, radio confrontations consisting of unacceptable language. If you feel the need to get involved in one of these...DON'T! The rest of us have better things to do than listen to alot of raw four letter whining. If it simply won't go away, take it into a more private setting or to settle it, fight a 1 on 1 duel in the DA. Talk it out via email. Anything, just keep it off the radio in the arenas! Nobody wins in these useless arguments and everybody looses. Final thought on this. If one individual is constantly irritating others with TOS (Terms of Service) violations or other unacceptable conduct, he will soon be reported to HTC (who quietly cruise the arenas regularly anyway) and can be banned from AH. No joke. No refund either. all, including muyself are guilty of this one....i now simply go cool off now......no use yelling at a guy 3,000 miles away who's just drinkin a beer and laughin at me for it!!:lol
2: AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while. Know who controls what base or airfield. Keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Look at the maps and try to understand why taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical in some instances and less so in others. There is alot involved if you take the time to look for it and understand it. It will increase your enjoyment of the game tremendously.
those of us that like to do this get called mean names like toolshedders, and milkrunners.......or worst of all......LANDGRABBERS:O
3: Keep your eye on the radio messages. They serve two primary functions. First and foremost, they keep you informed of what is currently happening in the arena. Concentrations of friends or enemies, bases that are currently under attack or that are operational or nonoperational, approximate locations of incoming targets, what needs to be destroyed at a certain base, etc. The second reason for a new player to pay attention to his radio, is to get a sense of who is an experienced player and who isn't. Experienced, well grounded players will normally be very willing to help you with questions you may have and won't reply with "try Alt-F4". The difference between just asking anyone and asking an experienced player is that you'll probably get the right answer first time. Not much point in a newbie asking a newbie. There is a big down side to watching your radio, however. It means you aren't watching the sky around you, and that boys and girls, is deadly. Situational awareness is the key to survival in AH and survival is the key to success. At first, try to find a comfortable balance between learning and playing AH. After a while, you'll be able to do both without neglecting either.
:D :lol :O
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Originally posted by NHawk
Know who controls what base or airfield. Keep track of what resources...
I control your bases.
I control your airfields.
Do not adjust your resources.
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Is it joke, NHawk?
Not funny...
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Originally posted by LTARsqrl
NoBaddy:
Here is an eye opener for ya.
HTC:
Centered around the air-war.
LTARsqrl <> :aok
I hate to be the one that pees in your Rice Crispies....but, you quotes prove my point. :)
I'm not trying to diss you or anyone else that choses to do something besides play the air combat component of the game. BUT, what you quote specifically makes my point....air combat is the center-piece of the game.
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I sure hope there is not going to be a quiz on this later...
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Originally posted by LTARsqrl
I don't see where NHawk said you HAD to play one way or the other, but more to the point, suggested that learning the other aspects of the game might make the game more enjoyable.
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Here, let me clean your glasses for you.
Nhawk
AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while.
If you don't see that as a "play my way" statement it's not your vision that is the problem. It's a problem with your processor.
"Learn the strategic aspects" can't be considered a friendly opinion when it is coupled with the "looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring ". He clearly denigrates all aspects of the game other than the strategic aspects as pointless and boring.
Originally posted by LTARsqrl
Centered around the air-war. But designed for more than that.
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Here's another quote from HiTech, the games designer. I think we can trust him to tell us about the design of the game.
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Some play the game to fulfill the actual parameters that it was designed for, which is to overcome and conquer bases, and eventually the country, thus winning the war/game.
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This is a false assumption.
The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.
HiTech
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Now I trust you don't need this broken down for you but since you've got that vision problem with Nhawk's play-my-way statement, here goes.
The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat.
There's your design goal, right from the keyboard of the designer. The game was designed to have fun; there's the primary design goal.
How is this achieved? Through different types of combat.
Now, let's delve a bit deeper and once again dispel the myth that this game is designed with winning the war as the only appropriate goal.
Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun.
Here we see that the entire capture strategy designed into the game is just a means to promote combat. Further the clear basic design premise is that combat promotes fun. As we've already seen, fun is the primary design goal of AH.
Lastly, there's the key statement that should help you with that vision thing on Nhawk's play-my-way statement.
But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.
Here the designer once again emphasizes that capturing bases is no more or less justified than any other activity in the game. It is just one way to play, not the ONLY way to play. It has no priority over any other way to play. Capturing bases is equated to just going out and mixing it up as a game goal. It's clear that the designer considers both fun and neither one boring or pointless.
Hope that helps.
If you're still confused, just post again and I'll try once more to explain it.
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Well said, Toad. :aok
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I only play to shoot the red guys down. That is what I find fun / interesting. I only fly the F4U's. That has been my favorite plane since I was a kid. I'm not interested in flying the other planes, except maybe once in a while as a deviation that quickly proves boring. I've been known to load bombs and rockets on my corsair, again as a whim. That has ALWAYS ended in me losing interest before I reach the target, and getting rid of them. At least for the last few years. I haven't even loaded them intentionally for over a year (although when I play online after my 8 yr old has been playing I sometimes find that I am fully loaded with ordinance, yet only 25% fuel. Odd...)
When I first started playing AH I really enjoyed the strategy / base capture facet of the game. I had no problem with the furballer group, but couldn't understand how that would be entertaining enough for long-term enjoyment. I sure didn't have the skills needed to hold my own in the furballer realm. I got pretty good at killing stuff on the ground though.
At some point I found I no longer had ANY interest in the base capture portion of the game. I had a huge interest in the furballin' portion though. But I still had no interest in the planes other than the F4U. So I started furballin' in the F4U and just got slaughtered in it until I figured it out. At about the same time I began to really get distracted by the base capture chatter on vox. I belonged to a great squad, and really liked my squadies, but for some reason the constant chatter was driving me crazy. I ended up dropping out of my squad and lone-wolfing for awhile. That worked fine, but I eventually formed a new squad, and limit it to F4U furballin'. It's a small squad- two members! I have no plans to make it much bigger. If it got too large the vox chatter would make me leave again, lol. I enjoy having people tuned on vox, but once it gets to 5-6 on vox I have problems.
So when you say that the strategic end of the game is more interesting than the furballin', or that people should progress beyond furballin' to fully enjoy the game- I can't agree. Been there - done that. For me the fun is in the fights, not the captures. Coordinated fighter sweeps are great with 1-3 more people.
Honestly though, even though I have zero interest in the captures I LOVE having that end of the game going on "in the background". It really adds a neat level to the game. I love defending against capture, and will even join in with the guys capturing the base as long as I don't have to actually bomb anything ( not on vox though, lol. Range vox is bad enough! ). I also generally leave when we start to get the upper hand. Who wants to fight an overwhelmed enemy?? Where's the challenge in that?
It takes all sorts in this game to make / keep it interesting. In my opinion, the game would lose vast amounts of "interest" if either of the two main factions was removed. "Different strokes for different folks!"
MtnMan
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"Treat your fellow pilots with respect"
(http://sankey.ca/king/roadhouse2.jpg)
Yeah? and what if someone calls my momma a C!$@s&$#@!
is she?
You will be nice, until its time to not be nice
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Originally posted by Toad
Here, let me clean your glasses for you.
If you don't see that as a "play my way" statement it's not your vision that is the problem. It's a problem with your processor.
"Learn the strategic aspects" can't be considered a friendly opinion when it is coupled with the "looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring ". He clearly denigrates all aspects of the game other than the strategic aspects as pointless and boring.
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Here's another quote from HiTech, the games designer. I think we can trust him to tell us about the design of the game.
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Now I trust you don't need this broken down for you but since you've got that vision problem with Nhawk's play-my-way statement, here goes.
The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat.
There's your design goal, right from the keyboard of the designer. The game was designed to have fun; there's the primary design goal.
How is this achieved? Through different types of combat.
Now, let's delve a bit deeper and once again dispel the myth that this game is designed with winning the war as the only appropriate goal.
Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun.
Here we see that the entire capture strategy designed into the game is just a means to promote combat. Further the clear basic design premise is that combat promotes fun. As we've already seen, fun is the primary design goal of AH.
Lastly, there's the key statement that should help you with that vision thing on Nhawk's play-my-way statement.
But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.
Here the designer once again emphasizes that capturing bases is no more or less justified than any other activity in the game. It is just one way to play, not the ONLY way to play. It has no priority over any other way to play. Capturing bases is equated to just going out and mixing it up as a game goal. It's clear that the designer considers both fun and neither one boring or pointless.
Hope that helps.
If you're still confused, just post again and I'll try once more to explain it.
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Awesome post Toad!
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Since the debate rages around item #2 I'll only say this...
This was not and is not a "play my way" thread.
It was merely intended to encourage players to learn all aspects of the game. And was prompted when I saw several new players flying around aimlessly in an area that had no enemies in it and they asked where the enemy was.
If you enjoy furballing...by all means enjoy it!
But a new player should be aware that there are other aspects of the game, learn them and then make a decision on how they want to play.
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toads post should be a stickey,then we can move on.:aok
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Just behave as you would if you were face to face with the people you talk to.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Just behave as you would if you were face to face with the people you talk to.
Where is JhonnyRa when you need him? :D
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Originally posted by dedalos
Where is JhonnyRa when you need him? :D
I do NOT miss his whining.
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Originally posted by NHawk
It was merely intended to encourage players to learn all aspects of the game.
:rofl
Yah, right!
You don't have to play the Nhawk way; you can always play the other pointless and boring way.
It's clear you weren't saying play my way. :rofl
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Originally posted by mtnman
At some point I found I no longer had ANY interest in the base capture portion of the game. I had a huge interest in the furballin' portion though.
I suspect that, if you could poll people who have been playing these games for more than a few years, most would agree with this. The strategery mechanics and strategies can be grasped fairly quickly, and the formulas for winning the war have been posted on these boards frequently. But what holds people's attention - year after year - is the challenge of attempting to master air combat.
- oldman
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Originally posted by dedalos
Where is JhonnyRa when you need him? :D
o god not him,i dont miss his whining eather.That and his PAIN IN THE NECK SON who squeakes and talks more then anyone els did.I hope they never come back,i thought they left the game because RA was vulching his kid's account was the rumor that was going around.
:noid :noid
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Originally posted by Toad
:rofl
Yah, right!
You don't have to play the Nhawk way; you can always play the other pointless and boring way.
It's clear you weren't saying play my way. :rofl
It's all in how you interpret what was written. If you want to interpret it that way so be it. I can't control that.
LTARsqrl got it, as did a few others. But then others read it another way.
And if you are going to quote me, please don't paraphrase. Especially when you quote just enough out of context to fit your needs.
The full quote is...
It was merely intended to encourage players to learn all aspects of the game. And was prompted when I saw several new players flying around aimlessly in an area that had no enemies in it and they asked where the enemy was.
If you enjoy furballing...by all means enjoy it!
But a new player should be aware that there are other aspects of the game, learn them and then make a decision on how they want to play.
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Here is another full quote:
AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while. Know who controls what base or airfield. Keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Look at the maps and try to understand why taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical in some instances and less so in others. There is alot involved if you take the time to look for it and understand it. It will increase your enjoyment of the game tremendously.
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OK I give up...I'll retract that entire statement...
AH is just an airborne shoot-em-up.
Don't learn the strategic aspects of the game. There are none.
Flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is fun and you'll never get bored.
Don't pay attention to who controls what base or airfield. And don't keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Land anywhere!
Don't look at the maps. There is no reason that taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical.
There's nothing involved in this game, so don't take the time to look for it and understand it.
Nothing will increase your enjoyment of the game.
Is everyone satisfied now?
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"AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while."
Granted Toad and I think very alike when it comes to this game, but the above statement is so blantanly implying ...
"If the purpose of your flying around does not have some sort of strategic aspect/goal and your are just flying around looking to kill anyone ... not on your side ... then what you are doing is pointless and boring."
So no ... It's not just Toad ... Hazzer and Mash got it too.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
"AH is not just an airborne shoot-em-up. Learn the strategic aspects of the game. Just flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is pointless, not to mention pretty boring after a while."
Granted Toad and I think very alike when it comes to this game, but the above statement is so blantanly implying ...
"If the purpose of your flying around does not have some sort of strategic aspect/goal and your are just flying around looking to kill anyone ... not on your side ... then what you are doing is pointless and boring."
So no ... It's not just Toad ... Hazzer and Mash got it too.
Well, like I said... When a few new players were 3 sectors away from any action, the "flying around aimlessly" came into play. If that's not flying around aimlessly I don't know what is.
I've NEVER bashed furballers. Ever. Look at the maps I've done and every one of them has an area for furballers. Whether it get's used for that or not is not something I can control.
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Originally posted by NHawk
Well, like I said... When a few new players were 3 sectors away from any action, the "flying around aimlessly" came into play. If that's not flying around aimlessly I don't know what is.
And how we were to know any of that from your original statement ?
Could they not have been instructed to look at the map and find the area with the most amount of red dots and go there looking for a fight ?
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Originally posted by SlapShot
And how we were to know any of that from your original statement ?
Could they not have been instructed to look at the map and find the area with the most amount of red dots and go there looking for a fight ?
The simple answer is a harsh one.
Stop reading things into what people say.
And they were instructed where the fights were.
But I still feel that statement is good general advice. Every one of us has played on both sides of the fence. Then at some point we decided to stay on one side or the other. Neither one is any better than the other. But it is still benificial to learn all aspects of the game. Doing that and understanding what is going on does increase one's enjoyment of the game.
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Originally posted by NHawk
The simple answer is a harsh one.
Stop reading things into what people say.
And they were instructed where the fights were.
But I still feel that statement is good general advice. Every one of us has played on both sides of the fence. Then at some point we decided to stay on one side or the other. Neither one is any better than the other. But it is still benificial to learn all aspects of the game. Doing that and understanding what is going on does increase one's enjoyment of the game.
People will NEVER stop "reading things" into what was written.
It is the responsibility of the writer to provide the details and the right amount of details to prevent the reader into "reading things" that were not intended.
Toad and I didn't discuss this on the phone and then decide to post. We both read it separately (as did a few others) and surmized the EXACT same thing.
You threw in a cheap shot at what others enjoy doing (flying around looking to kill anyone not on your side) and you got called on it ... sorry.
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NHawk, so from now on only type what you mean, leaving anything open ended will only bring the naysayers out from under their rocks to quickly jump down your throat, and ignite a flame fest.....
Sometime I think those that post here only read 1 word in 3 and make a guess at the others :rolleyes:
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Well it was never intended as a cheap shot or any other kind of a shot. If it was taken that way I apologize.
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
NHawk, so from now on only type what you mean, leaving anything open ended will only bring the naysayers out from under their rocks to quickly jump down your throat, and ignite a flame fest.....
Sometime I think those that post here only read 1 word in 3 and make a guess at the others :rolleyes:
Actually, the one and only time I've been sensored here was the one time I typed exactly what I meant. ;)
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I submit this:
I think most noobs grasp the strategic aspects and all of the things other than flying fighters (GV's, buffs, etc.) first. Why? Flying and fighting and winning is hard. On the other hand a relative noob can jump in a buff or a GV and actually go out and kill someone or something and feel good about themselves and about contributing to their country.
NHawk, I know you meant well by your post but if you really wanted to help out a noob then your post should have been directed at the hardest part of the game for them to grasp, not the part that they are naturally going to be inclined toward.
In the spirit of bringing up a new generation of fight-worthy opponents a summary of ACM and SA would have served the population better.
Just my $.02
[EDIT] And if this WAS intended for noobs it would have been better off posted in the Help and Training forum.
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Originally posted by NHawk
OK I give up...I'll retract that entire statement...
AH is just an airborne shoot-em-up.
Don't learn the strategic aspects of the game. There are none.
Flying around aimlessly, looking to kill anyone not on your side is fun and you'll never get bored.
Don't pay attention to who controls what base or airfield. And don't keep track of what resources have been hit or are still functioning at any base or zone in your immediate operating area. Land anywhere!
Don't look at the maps. There is no reason that taking and holding a certain base is beneficial or even critical.
There's nothing involved in this game, so don't take the time to look for it and understand it.
Nothing will increase your enjoyment of the game.
Is everyone satisfied now?
I ll ask the guys to send you an invite to the squad :p
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NHawk...
Don't take any of the crap you're catching too seriously. I understood what you were trying to do (and I do applaud your effort to be helpful to the noobs). I just don't agree with your specific statements. Bottomline, the players you are trying to reach are the ones that I spoke of as needing to RTFM!
That being said, I doubt they would bother to come here and read anything. :D
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
NHawk, so from now on only type what you mean, leaving anything open ended will only bring the naysayers out from under their rocks to quickly jump down your throat, and ignite a flame fest.....
Sometime I think those that post here only read 1 word in 3 and make a guess at the others :rolleyes:
Nice try to try to twist it back around on the reader.
The written word can only be interpreted by what is written. If the author's intentions were interpreted outside of his/her original intent ... then the author failed at trying to convey said intent ... it becomes more evident when there are others who read it with the same intent.
NHawk ... accepted ... and <>.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
NHawk...
Don't take any of the crap you're catching too seriously. I understood what you were trying to do (and I do applaud your effort to be helpful to the noobs). I just don't agree with your specific statements. Bottomline, the players you are trying to reach are the ones that I spoke of as needing to RTFM!
That being said, I doubt they would bother to come here and read anything. :D
For all intents and purposes ... the post in general was very good ... it was that one line that twisted the nipples and caused my reaction.
It stuck out like a sore thumb in the "whole" content of what he was trying to accomplish.
Don't you have some water to bail down there in Tex-ass ?
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I gree with you 100% NHawk, I for one always help new members with any aspects of the game they need help with, wether it be controlling their aircraft or GV to calibrateing their bombsite.Some players seem to forget they were new once we all were, even though they may try to convince people otherwise. Treating a noob like he a moron just because he doesnt know the buttons to use to activate his dive brakes is just juvenile and wrong. Attacking another player on the radio is uncalled for My squad has a code of ethics i require them to follow while playing one of them is "If provoked by another player LET IT GO you will be the bigger man."
However many players dont care what they say to others which is to bad, if they only knew how it makes them look.
Helping new members understand different aspects of the game is a great idea that way each player can decide which way he wants to play the game wether it be to win the map by captureing bases or just furballing to their hearts content.
All the guff you have recieved stateing that you want them to play youre way is absolute nonsense. I read nothing in youre post that even remotely hinted at that.I you for youre words ..
CO SMOKEY23
http://www.thelynchmobsquad.com/
:aok
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Don't you have some water to bail down there in Tex-ass ?
Not us (for a change). I believe it was North Central. Heck, one town got 19 inches overnight. I can do without that...thank you very much. :)