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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: Oldman731 on June 29, 2007, 08:15:50 AM
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RAIN OF FIRE
After three and a half bloody years of savage
combat on beaches, in jungles, on the seas and
in the skies, the Allies at last are poised on
the doorstep of Japan. By night, the full horror
of their vengeance is visited on the islands'
inhabitants as the mighty B-29s burn their cities
to cinders. By day, the blue carrier planes and
the silver long-range American fighters bomb and
strafe the few remaining targets of significance.
Both sides know that the final amphibious assault
of the war - the campaign that will cost a million
American lives, and will destroy Japanese civilization
forever - is only a few weeks away.
ALLIES
On carriers:
F6F-5 (all carriers)
F4U-1C (C77, C89)
F4U-1D (all carriers)
F4U-4 (C79, C90, C92, C95, C97)
FM2 (all carriers)
Seafire IIC (C78, C93, C99)
TBM (all carriers)
At air starts (A88, A122):
P-38L
P-47N
P-51D
B-24J (pretend it's a B-29)
AXIS
A6M5b
Ki-61
Ki-84
Nik2-J
B5N2
D3A1
Ki-67
M-16
Ostwind
(Note Axis air start is at A119)
NOTE ON AIR STARTS:
Look for the blue boxes out in the ocean. Each is
associated with a land base (for Allies, typically
on the bottom edge of the map). Each blue box has
one square filled in. Go to the associated land base
and take off in the direction of the filled-in box.
Note that each of the land bases has several air starts.
(For example, if an Allied player takes off from A122's
north runway, he will begin in Sector 8,1; if he takes
off to the northeast, he will begin in 12,1; to the
northwest, at Sector 4,1.) You will begin high in the sky,
by the blue box, with your gear down and your engine off.
Remember to take care of those two things promptly.
The Japanese air starts are governed by A119, in Sector
6,12. The Allied air starts are at A88 (0,0) and
A122 (8,0).
For playability purposes, Allied aircraft can land at
A3. However, all aircraft are disabled at that base,
so you cannot begin flight from there.
SETTINGS:
Radar: Tower 237,600, Sector 369,600
Visibility is 12 miles
Field Ack: low-level and puffy are both .25
Killshooter is on
Fuel burn rate is 1.0
Strat is disabled
The invasion hasn't come yet, so there are no vehicles
available to capture bases.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER: Civil behavior is valued,
and required, in this arena.
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Task forces can be commanded. I may have placed the task groups too close to shore. Feel free to move them further out if their positioning detracts from play.
- oldman
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Gonna be a fun weekend Oldman.............TY for this setup ~S~
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Would I prefer to get shot down in a Corsair, or a Zero this week?
Neat looking setup- be seeing you all in there.
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Would any of you AvA regulars be interested in perhaps setting up a squad(s) vs. squad(s) fight in AvA this upcoming week or weekend? I floated the idea with my squad mates a few weeks ago and they seemed to be interested, and with this planeset I'm pretty sure I can convice 3 or 4 or more to meet in the AvA.
Ideally, we could do 4-6 or more per side, meet in the AvA at an agreed time and fields, announce a start time on ch200 and do a fighter sweep scenario or something.
If we can get a couple squads interested, we could actually have a pretty big fight.
I fly with the 348th, I know TC flies with The Damned and Shifty has a squad.
Let me know if you guys are interested and we can start setting something up.
Just an idea.
Toonces
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880 NAS is in the AVA every Tuesday and Thursday @ 9:00 PM EST.
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Originally posted by toonces3
Would any of you AvA regulars be interested in perhaps setting up a squad(s) vs. squad(s) fight in AvA this upcoming week or weekend? I floated the idea with my squad mates a few weeks ago and they seemed to be interested, and with this planeset I'm pretty sure I can convice 3 or 4 or more to meet in the AvA.
Ideally, we could do 4-6 or more per side, meet in the AvA at an agreed time and fields, announce a start time on ch200 and do a fighter sweep scenario or something.
If we can get a couple squads interested, we could actually have a pretty big fight.
I fly with the 348th, I know TC flies with The Damned and Shifty has a squad.
Let me know if you guys are interested and we can start setting something up.
Just an idea.
Toonces
DA would be best for this since you (hopefully) wont have to wory about intruders
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I understand what you're saying Dedalos, but it's not my intention to have a purely squad v. squad event. My idea, instead, is to get a fair group into the AvA at a given time, and have some sort of cohesion of effort- like a mini-FSO without all the FSO work.
I spoke to one of my squad mates last night after we were all done fighting in there, and he was complaining about the MA, basically saying he wished he could find a good 2v2 or 4v4 and I told him he should have been in AvA with us an hour ago. We had 4v4 going in there for about an hour or so, right?
Also, my squad mate is pretty good, and I think he'd appreciate the higher caliber of pilots in the AvA.
He said he'd give it a try, but every time he looked there weren't any people in AvA.
So, that's sort of my point. There's an inertia to AvA (it seems to me). Nobody wants to be person 1, but once there's 4 people in there, someone like me will poke in and so on until you have 6 or 8 folks. If we can get 4 from my squad, 4 from Shifty, 4 from TC and 4 from you, all meet at an off time, pick sides, and then up and fly a mission against each other, we'd generate some interest. The newcomers could log on, and they'd be welcomed to join the mission. As the mission continues, assuming the fields are more than 5 miles apart from each other, then new logons would be out of the fight, but they could always play catch up or start a fight somewhere else.
I dunno, maybe it's a stupid idea. But the huge arena sits there hardly populated most of the time, why not get some like-minded people in there at a given time? It's not like it would be too hard to organize something at least sort of structured over ch200 if we talk it over some beforehand.
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It's not a stupid idea. I'd love to see more squad participation in the AVA. My advice would be just get your squad in there with as many as possible. People are doing everything they can to keep the sides balanced. I don't think I've flown on the same side with more than 1 or 2 my own squad in there for about 3 weeks now. We're usually split in two balancing the sides.
Once we have decent numbers, the fighting can graduate a bit from the single furball between two bases it is now to include other things. I'd love to see a jabo raid, or even a buff mission. We have to get the numbers up first though. So bring in some fresh faces and sell them on the idea of historic plane matchups. If they like it, they'll come back.
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one thing people who prefer the ava can do is if they see nobody on just up something and go play deack the other guys field. I've found it usually takes about 15 minutes for somebody to come in and de wing me for doing it. Pretty soon there's 4 to 12 people in there and all is right with the world.
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Or grab a squadmate or a friend along to go there for a round or two, soon it will be 5-10 people in there...
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
one thing people who prefer the ava can do is if they see nobody on just up something and go play deack the other guys field. I've found it usually takes about 15 minutes for somebody to come in and de wing me for doing it. Pretty soon there's 4 to 12 people in there and all is right with the world.
yep dogma, that is what I normally do, grab a gv or pt boat or bomber ( A20 yeah baby ) and go hit something
then if someone comes in and trys to kill me I have 1.2 a fighting chance dogfighting them in the A20
usually bout 5 minutes someone will pop in.I keep roster/clipboard open when enroute and keep hitting refresh so I dont miss any passerbys.......
and if someone pops on I immediately ask em to up opposite side to fight...
works 9 out of 10 times
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The reason I go there is to fight. Why do we need to organise something other than a meeting time? People that pop in after a mission start will do what? It is a public arena and no one that comes in should have to be told what to do. That being said, nothing stops one side from starting a mission, anauncing it and having the others try to stop them if they want to.
To tell you the truth, I wont try. I go there to find a fight, not chace jubos to the ack and then watch them run to their base for a succesfull mission. I can stay in the MA for that and for buffs. Again, no one stops a few guys from seting that up themselfs but dont make it a requirement.
We had some good fights last night. It remined me of the old DA. However, this will change when the cannon birds become available. Waching a Spit1 or Hurry1 come HO with the 303s is funny and dose not effect the fight too mach. If those birds start doing thins using hispanos, your view of last night might have been different. My point is that the dweebery is still there and trying to organaze these people will just lead to frustration. We got lucky the last few days because of the set up.
everyone for the set up and the fights
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Dedalos,
I'm not sure if I'm not communicating well, or if you're just trying to piss me off, because this is the second time you've done this in as many weeks. First you somehow took one of my posts and turned it into a spit is uber whine and now this.
I am NOT saying that anyone who comes into the AvA should have to do anything. It is a public arena, one that I tend to gravitate to when there are some folks in it, and one that I think should be the most popular in AH. I'm not sure why it isn't because it has virtually everything that is whined about that is missing from the MA.
At any rate, I THINK that there are other folks out there, besides me, that enjoy flying in a more structured environment than simply upping a plane, flying into the furball, rinse and repeat. I would like to explore the idea of folks with that mindset meeting in the AvA because, 1. frequently it's empty, and 2. because the limited planeset and historical maps lend themselves to setting up a scenario based fight.
All that I'm really looking for is any interest in this. It seems to be lukewarm. That's fine. This is just an idea. I can try and meet Shifty's group Tuesday at 9pm est with a handful of squaddies and see what happens. I think it would be quite easy to say to Shifty and the 348th, 'hey guys, lets meet a 9pm Wednesday night, and we'll do a fighter sweep mission with us out of a10 and you defending a11' or something of the sort.
You or anyone else who is either in there or comes in can do whatever you'd do normally. Maybe you want to join a side and be part of the fight. Maybe you want to be a spoiler. Maybe you want to do your own thing on another part of the map. Frankly it makes no difference to me in the long run, but I HOPE that you'll pick a side, up a fighter, and shoot someone down with the group.
You're the vet in AvA, not me, which is why I'm simply throwing out the idea. You guys that have been doing this for years need to let me know if it's a good one worth pursuing or not. Doesn't sound like you're for it, fine. But don't read more into what I posted- I'm not trying to require you or anyone else to do anything other than what you normally do. In fact, I'd suggest that people that want to participate in the mission stuff move a few bases away, just so as not to interfere with business as usual.
Chances are this will lead to nothing, but the idea of something other than FSO events to fly in a somewhat structured environment sounds like fun to me.
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toonces the 880th is doing what you propose on tuesday and thursday nights. My suggestion is have your squad pick a night and descend upon the arena. If there's not any opposition split your squad and fight each other for a bit. Trust me there will shortly be a plethora of like minded individuals squad affiliation or not that will be happy to join in, side balance, and (for the most part) fly by the AVA culture. I've been sidelined for 2 weeks working on the house but I'm hoping that by tomorrow night at the latest I can get back in the 'air' and start letting the 880'th guys and the goose steppin flyboys have the benefit of another easy target :)
It's not a bad idea at all IMHO :)
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Personally I think it's a good idea. No need to specify times though. Just choose your side assignment, and fly. Get a few squads in there to oppose you. Basically, chose a tour of duty and stick with it.
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Dedalos,
I'm not sure if I'm not communicating well, or if you're just trying to piss me off, because this is the second time you've done this in as many weeks. First you somehow took one of my posts and turned it into a spit is uber whine and now this.
Not trying to piss you off. Just posting my opinion. Does that piss you off? As far as the spit goes, yeah, I tend to get that way when someone that cant fight their way out of a paper bag makes comments about just pulling hard on the stick when you are in a spit. Ask the guys flying them yesterday if thats all it took.
I am NOT saying that anyone who comes into the AvA should have to do anything. It is a public arena, one that I tend to gravitate to when there are some folks in it, and one that I think should be the most popular in AH. I'm not sure why it isn't because it has virtually everything that is whined about that is missing from the MA.
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Stick around and you will find out. As I said on my post, we got lucky the last couple oof days. Wait for the fast planes with cannon and then tell me how diff from the MA the AvA is
At any rate, I THINK that there are other folks out there, besides me, that enjoy flying in a more structured environment than simply upping a plane, flying into the furball, rinse and repeat. I would like to explore the idea of folks with that mindset meeting in the AvA because, 1. frequently it's empty, and 2. because the limited planeset and historical maps lend themselves to setting up a scenario based fight.
All that I'm really looking for is any interest in this. It seems to be lukewarm. That's fine. This is just an idea. I can try and meet Shifty's group Tuesday at 9pm est with a handful of squaddies and see what happens. I think it would be quite easy to say to Shifty and the 348th, 'hey guys, lets meet a 9pm Wednesday night, and we'll do a fighter sweep mission with us out of a10 and you defending a11' or something of the sort.
You or anyone else who is either in there or comes in can do whatever you'd do normally. Maybe you want to join a side and be part of the fight. Maybe you want to be a spoiler. Maybe you want to do your own thing on another part of the map. Frankly it makes no difference to me in the long run, but I HOPE that you'll pick a side, up a fighter, and shoot someone down with the group.
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We have the EWA, MWA, and LWA for all this. Why change the AvA to be just like them?
You're the vet in AvA, not me, which is why I'm simply throwing out the idea. You guys that have been doing this for years need to let me know if it's a good one worth pursuing or not. Doesn't sound like you're for it, fine. But don't read more into what I posted- I'm not trying to require you or anyone else to do anything other than what you normally do. In fact, I'd suggest that people that want to participate in the mission stuff move a few bases away, just so as not to interfere with business as usual.
Chances are this will lead to nothing, but the idea of something other than FSO events to fly in a somewhat structured environment sounds like fun to me.
I'm not for it, but thats just me. I just posted my opinion. No one says that you should not ask for it or try it, no one is trying to piss you off, and no one is reading in to it. You are asking for the AvA to become like the MAs. I'd rather not see it since this is what makes the AvA different. The rest is the same. Its not like people change when they enter that arena.
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Originally posted by toonces3
I think it would be quite easy to say to Shifty and the 348th, 'hey guys, lets meet a 9pm Wednesday night, and we'll do a fighter sweep mission with us out of a10 and you defending a11' or something of the sort.
This can be a lot of fun, toonces. Filth used to advertise heavy bomber missions in advance; people who came into the arena evened out the sides, decided who was going to fly what, and flew the missions. They were memorable, generally quite historical (I'm remembering some Ju-88 Battle of Britain missions, and some B-17/P-51 8th AF missions) and a lot of fun. It's like a pick-up game of basketball. You don't even need a lot of players (there was one Tunisia mission that had something like six or eight people, total, that still worked well). People who aren't interested in the mission, or who (like me, all too often) can't be there for its duration, are free to do their usual fighting, usually somewhere under the bomber route. Everyone is happy.
The only thing you have to watch - and I think it might be an issue with this setup - is that you don't get too many people who are wedded to one plane (e.g., F4U-4 or -1C), throwing the sides way off balance. Happily, it looks like folks have been working hard to keep things even these past months.
- oldman
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Actually it doesn't matter how you fly, the main point is that you're having fun. But please respect the person you shot down / whom shot you down. Please keep the game enjoyable for everyone. :)
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How long is this setup gonna run Oldman? Might try and get the SAPPer's in here on Tuesday to fly the 38Ls
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Through next thursday. I suggest you have them come on wed night. ( im on shift tues:D )