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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: AK907 on July 03, 2007, 11:09:45 PM
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Ok, your flying a B17 and your engine catches fire, you have what 30 seconds to bail or you blow up, correct? I would like to beable to pull the Red extinguisher handle it shows in the cockpit and extinguish the fire. But Also the extinguisher could be damaged and not work and/or only work somtimes? Seeing as in WWII they were new and not as effective as they are today.
Any Thoughts?
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Diving to put the fire out could be interesting if added. Do you have any info on extinguishers of the era? I would like to see some sort of option added for this.
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I would like to see engine fires modeled in the first place! Right now we only have fuel tank fires (which are much rarer than an engine fire actually).......no fire extinguisher's gonna put that out, unless maybe you have a CO2 suppressant like oceanic oil tankers do......
But yeah engine fire and the fire extinguisher on aircraft that had them would be something nice to have. IMHO the only place this game is lagging is in the damage modeling. Right now we can only do three things to the engine, radiator leak, oil leak or kill it altogether. An engine fire would be a welcome addition.
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I agree - Engine fire would be a nice touch
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I'm guessing when your engines catch fire you have a set amount of time to pull a one time use fire extinguisher? But if you don't catch the engine fire within that set amount of time you dead? If this is the case it would be a nice addition to the damage modeling.
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Originally posted by SAS_KID
I'm guessing when your engines catch fire you have a set amount of time to pull a one time use fire extinguisher? But if you don't catch the engine fire within that set amount of time you dead? If this is the case it would be a nice addition to the damage modeling.
Yeah, pretty much! You kill fuel supply and deploy your (one shot) extinguishing agent a few seconds later. Your engine is now unusable. If it extinguishes the fire, all you've lost is the engine, if you didn't catch it then now it continues smoldering and may burn through fuel lines, electrical wiring, hydraulic lines, control runs and pretty much anything in the engines vicinity. May eventually burn right through to the fuel tanks and then you do go BOOM!:eek:
Would be great if such a level of damage modeling could be implemented! Engine fire burnt the hydraulic pump, so no flaps and no gear. Maybe no flight controls?
:aok
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"Right now we only have fuel tank fires"
Yeah thats what i thought, i didnt know if that was a fuel tank or engine fire... but sence you blow up that makes sence that it is fuel tank. Thats why i suggested the extinguisher thinking it was a engine fire.
Right now i do not have any info on the extinguishers from that era but im sure i could research it if needed.
Yes it would be one time use extinguisher, Also diving to try and put it out would be awsome, and risky... to fast of dive then pull up would result in loss of wings! lol
If anyone has seen the movie "Memphis Belle" you will see that they tryed to use extinguisher and it failed so they put it into a steep dive and put the fire out. (I relise its a movie but im sure they did things like that)
Also i imagine if your engine catches fire, even if you do succeed in putting the fire out, the engine is still toast, it just prevents the fire from buring your wing off, and buring into the fuel tank.
Yes fuel tank fires would be more rare then engine because the surface is either fabric or thin gauge aluminum and it would be hard to spark it?
Oh and not all planes would have this option... only the ones that really used it. i think only the bombers were the ones equipped with it, defenatly the B17s had it.
Any more suggestions or comments would be apreshiated.
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Id love that, have yet to find a good source about fire suppression systems im sure theres some out there.
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i would just like to see the death dive when on fire
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If you can carry a fire extinguisher out on a bomber wing at 10,000ft and not fall off or die from lack of oxygen then you deserve to be able to put the fire out.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
If you can carry a fire extinguisher out on a bomber wing at 10,000ft and not fall off or die from lack of oxygen then you deserve to be able to put the fire out.
I hope this is tougue in cheek humor, but with the lack of smiley faces Im seriously wondering about Latrobe's concept of fire suppression systems in aircraft :)
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If you can carry :D a fire extinguisher out on a bomber :confused: wing at 10,000ft and not fall off :p or die from lack of :eek: oxygen :huh then you deserve :cool: to be able :rofl to put the fire out.:noid
better?:p
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The red button isn't an extinguisher, its a prop feather, but I would guess it could be used for that.
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has any one thought of this not trying to hijack thread if you land while engine on fire then there fire trucks like in the ww2 thing
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Originally posted by 64kills
has any one thought of this not trying to hijack thread if you land while engine on fire then there fire trucks like in the ww2 thing
I doubt fire trucks would rush out with a battle in progress around them
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if it's not attaking then when you land the trucks come out then they put e'm out
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Originally posted by 64kills
if it's not attaking then when you land the trucks come out then they put e'm out
no point of it just land and re up and you get a new plane
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Originally posted by RAIDER14
no point of it just land and re up and you get a new plane
NO WAY :O you can just re-up and get a new plane???:confused: awesome:p :D
now that i know u can re-up
:p i will just do that....:D
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Originally posted by 64kills
has any one thought of this not trying to hijack thread if you land while engine on fire then there fire trucks like in the ww2 thing
you usually get a fuel tank fire when your being engaged and are hit... fuel tank fire is less common... but if it were changed to engine fire, your not going to beable to fly from enemy base (usually get engaged on a bombing run) back to your home base or any close base with an engine fire.... cook time would be probally 1-1.5 minute untill the engine fire burns into the thin material of the wing and ignites hydrolic, or fuel lines / tank on fire... then either boom or by by wing.
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Originally posted by AK907
Oh and not all planes would have this option... only the ones that really used it. i think only the bombers were the ones equipped with it, defenatly the B17s had it.
Any more suggestions or comments would be apreshiated.
I believe the F4U Corsair had a 'fire suppressor'. Not exactly sure of the contents... be it CO2 or something else, but my cross sections show a fire suppressor directly in front of the oil tank's armoured plate.
Then again my P-38L cross section (different company) shows what is claimed to be a 'rocket firing tube' in the boom landing gear wells, attached to the bulkhead that fixes the tail to the rest of the ship.
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Originally posted by Latrobe
If you can carry :D a fire extinguisher out on a bomber :confused: wing at 10,000ft and not fall off :p or die from lack of :eek: oxygen :huh then you deserve :cool: to be able :rofl to put the fire out.:noid
better?:p
This would be much too dangerous.
I would suggest wetting a towel and laying it over the flames. Wait 30 seconds until the flames are dead and the area has cooled. Then gather up your towel and fold it neatly after taking your seat back in the cockpit.
:)
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Originally posted by AK907
Oh and not all planes would have this option... only the ones that really used it. i think only the bombers were the ones equipped with it, defenatly the B17s had it.
Any more suggestions or comments would be apreshiated.
Mosquito Mk VIs had an extinguisher for each engine too.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Mosquito Mk VIs had an extinguisher for each engine too.
Please!!! Let's not bring up Mossie :D :D :D :D :D
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I really dont think diving would work.... I mean the fuel is all over the plane nd by the time you begin to dive it has seriously weakened that area and diving might only proceed to tear that piece off